mt250r86 X18 street bike build, powdercoat, HID, steering damper ect!!! Check it out!

[mt250r86]

My goal was to create a nice mid bike that is completely custom from the ground up. Done cleanly. No ghetto modifications. Everything I have modified was dry fitted and thouroughly thought through. The whole bike has been assembled and dis-assembled several times during the build to ensure the proper fitment of all the parts. I have tons of time and money invested. I have done no modifications to OGM 140 except for a Rickys high output stator. I need the power output for the HID's and to ensure the R6 battery stays charged. The list of modifications is endless. I am obviously not done however, the build should be almost complete shortly. My bike is registered and street legal. I need reliability, fuel economy and good lighting. Modifications include gearing, tires, wheel bearings, steering stabilizer, HID kit with relay wiring, Vapor w/dash kit and head temp, rear adjustable shock, exhaust, powdercoated frame and swingarm, 24mm carb, O ring chain, Hydralic clutch, 1/4 turn billet throttle, blue CDI, R6 battery, rickys stator, chrome ignition cover, PBU mirrors, PBU handlebar kit, Billet dress up kit, oil cooler, 5 plate clutch and custom exhaust with header wrap... The frame has been properly modified to accept the oil cooler, larger shock and the steering stabilizer prior to coating. There's probably some other stuff I am missing too...rock2 The vapor indicator lights work and are wired into the factory controls. It's taken a long time... I've been planning, buying and assembling since October... I will share more in the near future. Hopefully some youtube videos. What do you all think so far???:) I tried to load a pic of my pipe too...(Runs perfectly down the center!!!) But only 5 attachments at a time. Maybe another day. Thanks for looking!

[doubleu82]

Awesome job man! I'm seriously digging the powder coating! You've done a great job and I can't wait to see the finish product. thumbsup2 I also dig the indicators you have around the Vapor. It's motivating me to make my Vapor setup cleaner and less ghetto-rigged. So how is your hydraulic clutch working? I gave up on mine. It wasn't working well at all, so when I refilled it and tried to bleed it, brake fluid started squeezing out from under the rubber where you fill it.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

thats pretty nice on the frame, only thing is the body hides alot of the frame on the 18
dude just double post, triple post if you need to, we definatly want to see morethumbsup2

[swheels]

thumbsup2thumbsup2

Hey that's my style ghetto.angry_redbluelaugh

[The Nutty Professor]

Nothin wrong with ghetto if it works and more so with a race bike. Sooner or later it's gonna get scuffed. Great work my man. I know even one's a critic but I mean this in the...With all the great work you've done those triple clamps and forks are holdin' you back. I see the nice mount for the vapor and I keep looking down at that god-awful top clamp. It's just me but I hate that little bump thing they got goin where the forks come out of the clamp. Maybe if it was a different color it would look better dunno

[mishka]

wow that looks sick man!speechless33
i love that color on the framethumbsup2

great job

[rene13]

Where did you get the HID lighting? How is the headlight housing holding up?

[wickedwindwalker]

nice job bro! thumbsup2 looks like a pretty syk setup rock2

[mt250r86]

I bought the kit from ebay. I tried many things prior to settling on the setup I have now. I use to have an h4 55w setup and my housing took the heat. This new setup uses the h4 wiring. The hid setup runs cooler and draws much less power. The housing is modified using a lot of JB weld, fog light housing and an h4 socket. It is nearly indestructable and supplies more than enough light. I will post pics of it when it gets installed. The first one wasn't waterproof. The new model is pretty much water tight. That was one of the biggest challenges. Well worth all the time invested.

[mt250r86]

I did some more work in the last few days. It's almost ready to be started. Figured I'd post a pic of the entire bike now that it has wheels. :)

[jesone]

smokin_pimp thats hot .

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

looks great man
you should do the lower fork legs in red and do the wheels to match the body color, unless its red too

[x18nfs]

were do you get that pipe heat wrap stuff....bike looks nice man!!

[x19soysauce]

how much has it costed so far?

[Shooter]

I don't know if what I'm doing to my bike is considered "ghetto modding" but it sure is puttin' a dent into the pocketbook.
Finding out firsthand from my own personal experience, I can appreciate all that you're doing to/with your bike.
It really does look nice so far.
I'd say you're doing a fantastic jobthumbsup2
Can't wait to see it finished!

[mt250r86]

I appreciate all the great feedback. The fiberglass header wrap can be bought through summit racing or sometimes your local auto store. It costs a little money but looks cool and covers up the welding that was done to the pipe. The main reason I wrapped it was to keep the plastic from melting on the right side. The bike build exceeded $2000 a short while ago. I don't care to keep track anymore. That includes the bike purchase. Shooter... Your build is crazy and I too have an appreciation for what your doing. I want to get into body mods but don't know if I can deal with much more right now. At this point I just want to ride it.
The current issue I am dealing with is chain alignment. I have had to slightly shim my rear wheel to the right and have stacked two sprockets on the motor to move the chain to the left in the front. It's still out by a little bit much better than it was. I am going to have to have a machine shop mill off about an eighth from the hub where the sprockets mounts to the wheel. It sucks. My last bike had a really poor chain alignment too and in the same direction. With aluminum sprockets alignment is crucial. Has anyone else really addressed this issue? I am calling my sprocket manufacturer to get them to make me an off set front counter sprocket. It will make the problem better but will not fully resolve my issues. Has anyone else seriously dealt with this? Does anyone have an x18 with a straight chain? Thanks for reading.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

my 15 has been solid, my 18 had a chain alignment issue
im still unknown about it but shims worked out
i think its the frame or the motor is out of align
check the motor mounts for play

[mt250r86]

The x18s are horrible. Thanks Blitz for the input. The motor mounts don't have any play right now and I have sat there and looked at everything... Again and again. I might slot the motor mount holes on one side so I can shift the motor in my favor. Realistically there isn't anything you can do to fix the alignment so it's perfect. You would have to seriously modify you frame to make it perfect. I bet you the chain alignment was off by about a half an inch. Its within an eighth of an inch now the way I have it set up. If you use steel sprockets and crappy chains you can deal with it. I have a really nice jap O ring chain and nice sprockets so this just doesn't line up and you can feel all the drag it creates. Not to mention the premature sprocket wear.wave_finger I gotta do what I can. I can make it better but not perfect.

[The Nutty Professor]

I cut spacers for my chain alignment. I used a laser line to see how far out it was then measured out aluminum stock I have and cut them out. They are more like very thick shims than true spacers. I stacked them to get the right alignment. Yes it can be done in one piece but I don't have a lathe to work that out and I didn't have time to measure and go use my buddies lathe. All I used was a drill-press, hole saw, and bench grinder. Now that you brought it up I think I might throw a thread up. Hell it might help somebody and of course the way I do everything it had to be simple or I don't get it right bluelaugh

[mt250r86]

Thanks Nutt. However, the problem isn't that simple. I have shimmed the wheel all I will allow myself to. You can only go so far to one side before you're screwing with your wheel alignment. Which is a serious No, No! At least in my book. Today after closer inspection I realized what was happening. Here's what I found.
To all of you who have or plan on getting an OGM 140 to use with their x18... The output shaft on the ogm 140 is one quarter of an inch shorter that the stock loncin 110 shaft. This magnifies the chain alignment issues severely. Anyone who has this set up I strongly suggest you take a close look at your sprocket and chain alignment as I can pretty safetly say at this point it will be off some way (if it's like mine... almost a half an inch). You will either be driving crooked or chewing up sprockets... And destroying chains. I have contacted my supplier and I am having a custom off set front sprocket manufactured. It will solve most of my problem. I am using an unforgiving o ring chain and quality made sprockets. It has to be straight or else you can hear and feel it. I am also currently seeking a machine shop in my area that will machine the hub of my rear wheel where my sprocket mounts. That way I can shim my wheel back to the center of the bike where it belongs. For now... I set up the bike using a de-toothed stock sprocket with another sprocket bolted to the side of it... Talk about ghetto... Ha! It won't be like that for long. Which brings me to the next portion of this post.
I started it today and took it for a short tool around. All I can say is... The power is amazing. It has a ton and I mean a TON of torque! I didn't get it out of second. It was all there. It's stock and is very impressive! I haven't wired the speedo pickup but the head temp and tach gauge worked perfect. It started within a few kicks. I was blown away. I can't wait to get the rest of it together and get it out on the street! It runs real good the way the motor package was sent to me. For now the jetting seems good. I can't wait to play with it more!

[X7rocks]

want your motor covers to be polished? ill do it for ya would give the bike a extra look for it

[mt250r86]

No thanks. I actually have a real chrome stator cover on it already. As for polishing the other case. I choose not to. I've done tons of aluminum polishing on my wheeler and I've had enough of it. Too much maitenence. Get chrome or don't bother. You'll be polishing it everytime you wash it.

[BONER493]

Can you tell me which Stator you put on your bike? Is it this one (http://www.rickystator.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24_35&products_id=213)?

[mt250r86]

That is just a lighting coil... You need a crf50 stator assembly. Not the coil. This is the one I used. It bolted right into the OGM 140.

http://www.rickystator.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24_35&products_id=223

[x19soysauce]

does it charge your battery?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya thats your alternator

[x19soysauce]

omg thats frickin asome im going to buy a new engine then and put that on there

[x19soysauce]

is it easy to put on? cause that was the only thing holding me back from gettting a new engine

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

uh....new motors come with them too...
heres your sign
moon1
bluelaugh

[mt250r86]

Blitz is right. Pretty much all new motors come with a stator installed unless you get one with an inner rotor kit. The stator I purchased is suppose to be a 90 watt unit. Most stock motors have a 55 watt stator if your lucky. However, when I took the stock one out it looked almost identical to the rickys high output stator. I don't know if its going to be better at charging or not. Maybe the new OGM 140's have high output stators? I don't know. I do know the stock 110 stator didn't put out enough juice.

[mt250r86]

I forgot to tell you that they are easy to install with the right tools. You will need a flywheel puller... And to be safe. I suggest an impact screw driver. The kind you hit with a hammer. Or else you will probably strip the screws that hold the stator in.

[x19soysauce]

so if i were to buy a 125cc or 140cc it would come with a alternator that charges my battery

[general]

I thought all the X18+ bikes didnt need to be plug in at night? Cuz they got an Atl. now, or did i miss something?

[The Nutty Professor]

Everybody hands up! This is a jack! Well a little one. Huge motor deal now that we're on the subject.

http://www.planetminis.com/f17/huge-motor-sale-150s-140s-124s-80498.html

[ninja x1]

dang those 150 and 140 look nice!! dam if only i had the money by the time i have enoughf they might be gone!!!thumb_down that sucks!

[X7rocks]

hey mt any progress reports?

[joelanza]

WOW!! awesome job man!!! thumbsup2

[mt250r86]

Thanks for asking... The bike is at a temporary stand still. I have a new truck and it has been consuming all my time and extra cash. I have run the bike several times. I'm slowly breaking it in. It is strong. You can feel tons of low end power! Even with the 17/28 gearing. I want to wait to try the 17/24 combo, make sure I can max out the 17/28 first. I don't want to run the bike a lot the way it is. I am still waiting on a guy to make my front offset sprocket. Until I get the new front I will only be riding it easy so nothing breaks and the motor gets a chance to break in.

[ninja x1]

so how fast is it???

[Ghost Rider]

how did you wire the speedo for the vapor...im still trying to figure that out

[mt250r86]

Hello all. Sorry I haven't been around a lot lately. I've been patiently waiting for the counter set front sprocket. So my bike project has been on hold. I finally got it yesterday. I will try to post pics of it tonight. It was worth the wait. Even though it took waaaay longer than it was suppose to. I will soon have some more info on the bike such as top speed. I've got to re register first and I will be riding it again shortly. I will keep you all posted.

[ninja x1]

how long did it take????

[r32rider]

yeah pease post up some updates, that bike is freaking hot man. i would liketo se the finished product.

[mt250r86]

Okay. I finally have some pictures for you all. The first picture is the offset front counter sprocket I had made. The sprocket makes a perfect chain alignment possible even with the OGM 140. These are pics of my x18 headlight that has been modified for use with an HID lighting system. The unit is made to stand up to the heat and is nice and waterproof.

[swheels]

That's damn............. speechless.thumbsup2

[mishka]

speechless33






bows_smilie

[ninja x1]

cool, whats hid????

[mishka]

cool, whats hid????


HID is a High Intensity Discharge, basically a bright headlight, but a little more complex lol

[ninja x1]

o, sounds expensive!!

[mishka]

it could be, the kits for a car are about $150+

im sure its cheaper for a bike since you only need one. unless you have two headlights lol.

[ninja x1]

dang!!!! i would just buy a 10 dollar led.

[mt250r86]

The hid kit was about $80 or so. An led headlight is possible. You will never find one for $10 that will put out as much light as an hid setup. It costs a few hundred dollars for led headlights that produce enough light for driving. Or comparable output to an hid system. This hid setup is super bright. More than enough.

[ninja x1]

o?? 80 bucks not bad,

[mt250r86]

So I finally got the bike back together. Today I got it state inspected. I verified my vapor was correct with a GPS. Took it for a 10 mi spin. My conclusion for now is that I still need to do some carb tuning. I think the 17/28 gearing is too tall for the stock ogm 140. I did hit 72 mph with it. The first 3 gears pull hard but forth is more of a cruising gear. I can hit 60 mph in 3rd gear.

[x18nfs]

hey what setting do you have for your wheel size? And how are the magnets set up for you?

[rene13]

The hid kit was about $80 or so. An led headlight is possible. You will never find one for $10 that will put out as much light as an hid setup. It costs a few hundred dollars for led headlights that produce enough light for driving. Or comparable output to an hid system. This hid setup is super bright. More than enough.

What kit did you use do you have a pic? It looks Like the stock light housing was modified to except a HID fog light. I think I seen those fog lights at Walmart.

[ninja x1]

So I finally got the bike back together. Today I got it state inspected. I verified my vapor was correct with a GPS. Took it for a 10 mi spin. My conclusion for now is that I still need to do some carb tuning. I think the 17/28 gearing is too tall for the stock ogm 140. I did hit 72 mph with it. The first 3 gears pull hard but forth is more of a cruising gear. I can hit 60 mph in 3rd gear.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! 60 in third gear!!!!!!!!!!!speechless33


im am defanatly gonna get a 140!! can you hit 60 on a 110??? or can it go any faster??? with what gearing??

[mt250r86]

hey what setting do you have for your wheel size? And how are the magnets set up for you?



I drilled out two of the three stock wheel magnets. Then I glued the trail tech magnet to the last remaining stock magnet. My wheel size is 1276. That's with my 16 in front tire. Yours might be different but not by much. Read the directions that came with the vapor.

[mt250r86]

Rene, I don't have a pic of the kit. It is just a standard size ballast. The fog lights probably can be found at wally world. I actually got mine at auto zone. And yes, the stock housing was modified to hold the fog light which was modified to hold an h4 style bulb.

[x18nfs]

http://trailtech.net/magnets.html

which one did you get?

[mt250r86]

I used one of the two magnets they sell in the kit with the vapor. It was one of the small Neodymium Magnets.

[x18nfs]

ok thanks.......your bike looks real nice man!!

IS the frame powder coated?

[x18nfs]

Also what kind of battery you got, is it any good and were could i buy? What about that shock how is it and does it fit without mods?

[X7rocks]

60 in third gear sounds a bit unrealistic to me with the stock 22mm carb

[ninja x1]

60 in third gear sounds a bit unrealistic to me with the stock 22mm carb

idk man thats crazy fast tho!!!!!!!!

[rene13]

http://trailtech.net/magnets.html

which one did you get?

You can use the M6 one the shorter one. Also you you can use that magnet on the bolt and swap it for one of the front rotor bolt (do not use a washer on the bolt) so that it clears the fork leg.twocents

[mt250r86]

I will eventually paint and do some body mods. This is it for this year though. I wanted to ride... I have put 300 miles on it this year so far. More to come.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

its a shame that you cant see the frame more, all that pretty is hidden
the x15/19 show alot of frame, better for bling
the 18 does have the best body to paint tho, there arent any air gaps to mess up a design like the 15/19 have

[ninja x1]

what kinda mirrors are those????
cool looking bike thumbsup2

[ashar014]

what kinda mirrors are those????
cool looking bike thumbsup2

im pretty sure they are the same as yours.

mt250r86 I like how you made it street legal and all. Im looking to do the same with my x18 with yx150 motor.

where did you get your street tires?
ive been looking but i cant find a decent pair

[rene13]

im pretty sure they are the same as yours.

mt250r86 I like how you made it street legal and all. Im looking to do the same with my x18 with yx150 motor.

where did you get your street tires?
ive been looking but i cant find a decent pair

I found them!!!rock2 Minor thread jack These are the closest to stock you can get for some good aftermarket tire for street use http://www.atvtiresale.com/michelin-s1-scooter-tire-p-70918.html

Michelin S1 Scooter Tire
Front 90/90/10
Rear 130/70/10

If you look at my vid, it show the tires I am running
Pirelli SL26
Front 90/90/10
Rear 130/90/10 can not use my fender for the rear cause tire is to tall, but the front fender can be used with custom bracket to lift the fender a little.


Opps almost forgot, she's looking good!

[ninja x1]

im pretty sure they are the same as yours.

mt250r86 I like how you made it street legal and all. Im looking to do the same with my x18 with yx150 motor.

where did you get your street tires?
ive been looking but i cant find a decent pair

they look kinda different??:confused:

[mt250r86]

Okay guys. Long time no mods. Something needs to be adjusted! I want to do a motor upgrade. I am looking into two options... Maybe three. Its a toss up between a yx160 or the daytona style 150. I see tbolt offers a works motor with the yx bottom end and the daytona style case. What's everyones view on this. The yx 160 is $475. The daytona style 150 is the cheapest at about $420. the works motor is 599... Then I would do the clutch upgrade which is another 60...

[Monster_Bike1780]

Okay guys. Long time no mods. Something needs to be adjusted! I want to do a motor upgrade. I am looking into two options... Maybe three. Its a toss up between a yx160 or the daytona style 150. I see tbolt offers a works motor with the yx bottom end and the daytona style case. What's everyones view on this. The yx 160 is $475. The daytona style 150 is the cheapest at about $420. the works motor is 599... Then I would do the clutch upgrade which is another 60...

what motor do you currently got??

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i just got a 160 for sure

[swheels]

The good thing is that they all can be upgraded with a bbk.But the 160cc can get you up to the biggest cc with a bbk's that are out now.IMO you can't lose no matter which way you go.Just make sure any of the motors you get have the outer rotor setup on them.That way you will still be able to use your lights and things

Dam good seeing you around.thumbsup2

[mt250r86]

Ogm 140

[mt250r86]

Does anyone see any real long term benefits from running the daytona style case? I like access to the clutch and the oil filter.
Swheels... I don't stray far... I'm quiet most of the time but I do check into the forum at least once a day. The addiction continues!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

Does anyone see any real long term benefits from running the daytona style case? I like access to the clutch and the oil filter.
Swheels... I don't stray far... I'm quiet most of the time but I do check into the forum at least once a day. The addiction continues!

mytwocents i think the daytona cover is nice, they are clearly a leader in small cc advancement
the oil filter is nice also but i really have to question its usefullness ie: if you need a oil filter then you need to change your oil more often, ive never had OMG oil come out
the clutch cover is nice i guess if you blow a clutch at the track, ive always ran the good 5 plate design and never found its limits so i cant even say that the 6 plate setup is relevent
unless the clutch actuation method is far superior then id pass

[mt250r86]

So blitz, the 150 looks like it uses the lifan bvh 27/23... The same head that's on my 140. Is the klx head any better than the lifan. What are the valve sizes in the klx? Could I put the tb300 cam and import head on the 150? I will have to remake my exhaust if I get the klx style head. I have a new spare lifan bvh head already laying around. I don't want to go crazy with the big money motors. I need reliability and a little more power than I have now. Is the yx 160 obviously more powerful than the 150? If they are not really different in stock form to start with I would lean towards the 150. Just because of the engine case and spare head I have. I really like the idea of being able to change the oil on a street driven bike. Has anyone personally ran the 150 against a 160 side by side. Or maybe some dyno numbers?

[briansX19haulsass]

This makes more hp then a stock yx 160cc and it all is bolt on. This is a crazy kit for sure I think anyone will tell you that. 160cc bbk, race head, race cam, 28mm carb, the works check it out! http://www.tboltusa.com/store/160-bore-kit-with-new-race-head-and-carbkit-p-868.html?osCsid=3a9280574503a82b05550f31381bdccd

[mt250r86]

I don't know if that kit will work with my 140. I'm pretty sure my ogm is different than the yx. It has a 59mm stroke if I remember right... That makes that 160 kit useless for me. Last I checked. The only mods I can do to my 140 is the head and a cam. No cylinder options I know of. My ogm 140 has the cast iron black cylinder with the cooling fins going in the direction of the stroke.

[X7rocks]

see if they make a alluminum block cast iron gets way to hot at times ><

[briansX19haulsass]

Ya thats the thing about OGM's some are the lifan type sytle motors and others are the yx style. If you have that sytle motor you can style do the 152cc bbk just not gonna be as quick as the 160cc bbk setup.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

I don't know if that kit will work with my 140. I'm pretty sure my ogm is different than the yx. It has a 59mm stroke if I remember right... That makes that 160 kit useless for me. Last I checked. The only mods I can do to my 140 is the head and a cam. No cylinder options I know of. My ogm 140 has the cast iron black cylinder with the cooling fins going in the direction of the stroke.

you are exactly right, there isnt a lot of good mods for that motor
i personally went with a 160yx, the klx head in those is big even at the start, and they get bigger too
the stock 160 makes 12.5 hp (ill dnyo it later)
brians will barely make 16, hate to bust that bubble dog, and be on the edge of reliability
the 160 can go as high as 20+hp
mt pm me for the info you want

[mt250r86]

Figured I'd go ahead and let you all know I ordered a yx160 last night from AHP. It was priced right. They sent me a confirmation email for the order I made. They also let me know a tracking number will be supplied as soon as it goes out. So far, so good. I'm liking their customer service. Now the question is... Exhaust. I'm pretty sure I am going to have to redo the exhaust. The 160 has the klx style head. My question is??? How different are the exhaust angles? Comparing the honda style head to the kawasaki? I've also read some different things about the intakes? Can someone clear up my fogginess on this subject? Does the klx style intake have to face forward? Can I use my BBR intake manifold with the klx style head? I will try to rework the pipe I have now If the exhaust angles are close. But if they are WAY off to begin with I will but another pipe thats made for the klx110 and work that to fit. Swheels? Didn't you make a header pipe out of a socket at some point? Did you bend your own pipe from there? Or did you use other pipes to manufacture your needs?
Blitz. I would love all the info you can give me on the yx 160. I gotta start thinking about the next step :yup:

[swheels]

I used bits and pieces to make my frankenstein pipe.bluelaugh I only used a socket to get a bigger opening at the exhaust port. I think they have some header pipe on ebay that can be used. My exhuast seem to work well but it's the ugliest thing on the planet right now.bluelaugh

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

my 160 came with a intake and boot
my vm 26mm would have went right on no prob but my tm28mm needed some extra work to fit
it faces backwards
havent done the pipe yet but the port dont look crazy, so not sure

[briansX19haulsass]

you are exactly right, there isnt a lot of good mods for that motor
i personally went with a 160yx, the klx head in those is big even at the start, and they get bigger too
the stock 160 makes 12.5 hp (ill dnyo it later)
brians will barely make 16, hate to bust that bubble dog, and be on the edge of reliability
the 160 can go as high as 20+hp
mt pm me for the info you want

Ok. A 146 with a BVH and a tb300 cam made 15.4hp so how would a 160 with a Race head that has the works and a z-40 cam only make .6 more hp?

[swheels]

Ok. A 146 with a BVH and a tb300 cam made 15.4hp so how would a 160 with a Race head that has the works and a z-40 cam only make .6 more hp?That all depends on what else the builder did. Crank, bearings how they what type of port work they did to head,pipe carb ect ect ect. I read that post about the 146.They did not go into what was involved.Which they never really go into full details. So there will always be a difference of outcome with motor builds. Give 2 different eengine builders the BVH to work.You will end up with 2 different performance levels. Bri i'm pretty sure those guys didn't do the all out setup on your race head.Becuase just for some better valves and springs and valve seats alone can cost well over $700 in parts.thumbsup2 I'm not saying they didn't do good work to your race head. I'm betting that if you would have gave them 1k cash to work the head.You would have ended up with a totally tricked out race head.thumbsup2

[briansX19haulsass]

jeese 730 isnt enough for a good work head!!! I saw the valve springs that where in the head. They where double and look really good.

So if I was to give them 270 more dollars it would have been 100x bettercrazy_smilie I dont know but $730 for a worked head is alot of money man!hahaha

[swheels]

jeese 730 isnt enough for a good work head!!! I saw the valve springs that where in the head. They where double and look really good.

So if I was to give them 270 more dollars it would have been 100x bettercrazy_smilie I dont know but $730 for a worked head is alot of money man!hahahaDude your starting to sound brandnew to this.Don't you pay any attention to some of the of those threads you read over on PM??????? $730 for you can be costly for you.But look at some of the motors a few of the motard and pitbike guys are running. There was guy back in 08 at VIR that had 5k into JUST the motor in his crf50 motard.It was a 124cc and you can see instantly the power difference between his bike and the others out there racing. You wanna play you gotta pay homie.bluelaugh Sorry if it's not what you wanna hear,but it is what it is chief.If you learn to do it yourself you can save some serious cash and the know how will be priceless.thumbsup2 Oh by the way all of thes heads have double springs in them.LOL 2 on the intake and 2 on the exhaust.:yup: Bri you should know this.Come on maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Didn't you say you talked them down from that price.........................

[briansX19haulsass]

Dude your starting to sound brandnew to this.Don't you pay any attention to some of the of those threads you read over on PM??????? $730 for you can be costly for you.But look at some of the motors a few of the motard and pitbike guys are running. There was guy back in 08 at VIR that had 5k into JUST the motor in his crf50 motard.It was a 124cc and you can see instantly the power difference between his bike and the others out there racing. You wanna play you gotta pay homie.bluelaugh Sorry if it's not what you wanna hear,but it is what it is chief.If you learn to do it yourself you can save some serious cash and the know how will be priceless.thumbsup2 Oh by the way all of thes heads have double springs in them.LOL 2 on the intake and 2 on the exhaust.:yup: Bri you should know this.Come on maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Didn't you say you talked them down from that price.........................

Ya I know hahaha So I thought droping that much money on just the head would be enough. I just want to get the motor out and really run her. I know that these motors cost alot of money to make monsters and I have put ALOT of money into it man. I will coninute though but want to run it because it might already have plenty of power. rock2 We will just have to wait and see

[swheels]

Ya I know hahaha So I thought droping that much money on just the head would be enough. I just want to get the motor out and really run her. I know that these motors cost alot of money to make monsters and I have put ALOT of money into it man. I will coninute though but want to run it because it might already have plenty of power. rock2 We will just have to wait and seeReally i'm not trying to put your flame out or nothing.Well just enjoy have fun with it.:jacked: over..........

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

hey im just thinking you wont be much higher than 16, really tho, what do i know, im just guessing, after the race in ga i plan to get mine dynoed, if it lives...
i would be happy with 15 but it might only be 13-14, my compression isnt 12.5/1 its more like 11/1 cause of the 1mm cylinder spacer
altho its anti performance i do that to give more valve clearance and better reliability, also great for slack cam chains