The $100 Stunter

[FiveStarSky]

My Mini Side Project: (get it?)

Alright guys, as most of you know, my 15 race bike is out of comission untill i can order about $150 worth of parts (swingarm and tires)

Meanwhile...

Ive decided to try to throw the leftover parts i have into a bike.
Its pretty much gonna be a stock x7, with a few stunter-friendly mods (sorry no dirtbike bars) I'm going to use my x15 tail and tank on it, but will mod them to help fit the much smaller x7.

Since i know so much more now than when i did, i got a rideable bike already put together (i started on it last night)

Its not going to be anything fancy or fast, just a play-around bike to have some fun on. I'm trying to decided if i want to build it up and sell it, or stunt it. (but i got awhile to think it over) i bought the bike for $100, I'm sure i could doubble or possibly tripple my money. ( or trade for some cool stuff )
I'm not going for looks, i just want something i could possibly sell, or keep and play around on (i plan to spend under $20 for the eniter build)

But anyway, when i started lastnight, i just had the frame, and today i built it up all to a rideable bike.

Here are a few things i need to fix:
Brakes need fluid (is there an at-home fulid i could use?)
Need foot pegs (gotta buy more welding wire)
need a new valve stem for the front tire

Plans:
I'm gonna use the passanger pegs off my enduro to make footpegs for the x7, i'm gonna directly weld them up to the frame, but i have another idea i might do.
Gonna make some stunt pegs on the swingarm (possibly just long 1/2" bolts)
possibly make a 12'oClock bar, not sure if i would end up useing it or not.

Other than whats listed, its pretty much done, i'm gonna try to get the valve stem and welding wire soon ( i work monday and tuesday, dont know if i'll have time ) I did try to ride it, but it was, rather unsuccessful. (a flat tire, no footpegs, no brakes, really dampen things)

I think once its done, i'm gonna do a checker-board theme, all white and black.

I really like the small tires/frame, it will allow me to easly get a knee down (its addicting) and the little 50 motor should get me crusin around 30 or so,
and i can finally have something to ride with, (gotta get my gf to ride it)
Here is what its at now, I'm not sure what i'm gonna do for a seat/tail.

Tell me what ya think!thumbsup2

[FiveStarSky]

my drag pipe may not work, when turning right it would hit the road, and probably fall off since i dont have any decent way to attatch it to anything.
I might just end up modding the stock x7 pipes.

[ActBAD ok]

I was digging the picture with the tank only, then when i scrolled down and saw the tank and tail.... all i got to say is take off that tail and put the x7 tail back on... just my opinion, other than that it looks good:yup:

[FiveStarSky]

I was digging the picture with the tank only, then when i scrolled down and saw the tank and tail.... all i got to say is take off that tail and put the x7 tail back on... just my opinion, other than that it looks good:yup:

yeah its ugly, but i plan to fix that, btw, i cant use any of the x7 plastics, they are on my x15

[FiveStarSky]

i may end up choppin off the tail section like i had to do with my x15 frame

[FiveStarSky]

oh, and x7, could you give me some tips or advice on stuntin a semi-auto? and anyother cheap stunt mods you may know of.

[JR]

you could make a 12 o clock bar if your scared of going backwards on wheelies, since you have the ability to weld it should be an easy task, like so, or make it even longer
http://www.starcycle-usa.com/catalog/fi_12oclock_bar_xr50_300.jpg

[FiveStarSky]

yeah, i think i'm gonna skip out on the bar, i havent seen vids of anyone actually useing them, i think it would take away from the look i'm goin for too

[stuntnx7]

oh, and x7, could you give me some tips or advice on stuntin a semi-auto? and anyother cheap stunt mods you may know of.




get dirt bike bars...on a lil bike its so much more comfy....i could build you a direct bolt on kit that would come pre-assembled and you bolt on 2 U bolts...not for free but it would cost much for a kit...depending on how much you wanted to spend i could buy a set of grips and install the one side on for a lil more doh

[FiveStarSky]

get dirt bike bars...on a lil bike its so much more comfy....i could build you a direct bolt on kit that would come pre-assembled and you bolt on 2 U bolts...not for free but it would cost much for a kit...depending on how much you wanted to spend i could buy a set of grips and install the one side on for a lil more doh

i'm not sure if i wanted to install DB bars on the bike, I'm not looking to spend any extra money than what is required to make the bike rideable
and my next paycheck is all going to a new swingarm and tires for my 15

[FiveStarSky]

hey a few Q's what do you guys think i could get for this bike once its all finished (just gotta weld on some footpegs, get a tire stem, and its done. Selling it would be nice, (part money) but if it doesnt sell its all good, just another toy for me.

And what do yall think i should do about the tail?
The best i got right now is a rubber square as a seat, the 15 tail is just too big, i cant seem to make it fit the bike unless i cut up the plastic, but tahts the last thing i want to do atm. I'm wanting to make it look like the bike came that way, not "who threw that hunk of crap together?"

Ideas? And how much should i try to sell it for?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

extra parts are very nice to have
i always seem to find a use for that thing i almost threw away but didnt
id keep it

[FiveStarSky]

yeah, well pretty much everything i wanted/needed i arleady robbed off the bike, thats why the tail section is cut up, a few brackets are missing, etc..

[ActBAD ok]

yeah, well pretty much everything i wanted/needed i arleady robbed off the bike, thats why the tail section is cut up, a few brackets are missing, etc..

Like blitz said, a couple months down the road you could definitely use the parts for your main bike, or it can be another bike to have.and When your working on a bike, there is always a bike to ride. As for me I'm kind of half and half, keep the bike to use/use for parts...or sell it and mod up that x15 // more money to yourself. IMO both ways you can't go wrongthumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i owe my front dual brakes to a couple of x6 parts bikes, that i never thought were worth a crap, and another parts bike i bought that was wrecked
i had to give up alot of parts when i moved and im still bummed about that

[FiveStarSky]

yeah i'm seeing both sides of the coin, i think i'm jumping to conclusions too fast. The best thing to do would be to try to trade it for a non-running 15/18, then i would be set! heck i would even trade the thing for a rolling x18 frame.

[FiveStarSky]

there is a guy in a nearby town who has a ps3 he is looking to trade for something for his kid, i have already emailed him, and he is interested. I think i could get more for a ps3 by selling or trading it.

[FiveStarSky]

okay well since i didnt sell the bike yet, i might as well start fixing it up.

Got some brake fluid, and a new valve stem, but i think i jacked up the tire while putting the stem in, and now the front tire wont air up, so i'll take it by a bike shop see if they can put a tube in it or fix it.

Havent put the brake fluid in yet, but didnt keep me from rideing


My mom was vidding me, when i totally flipped the bike trying to do a wheelie, and was a decent crash, but my old momma dont know anything about cameras, and didnt hit the right button....
(i'm fine btw, i leathered up out in 90° weather, its hot)

But here is the x7, gotta do a bit more work, need to make it more rider friendly,gonna put a kill switch with a cord on it, like jet skis do, and a few other things. I'm gonna keep it naked, no sence in busting up plastics.

I aslo got some bmx pegs that i modded to fit the rear axle, they work pretty good.

pics



EDIT: i might move the pegs up closer, that would make it harder to wheelie, but also harder to flip backwards (the peg caught under my jacket and drug me a bit)

[GaRsNoW]

Gawd I hate those frames. But cool none the less, that looks like a sweet stunter.
Whats with the rear brake?...Do you have a handbrake?

Edit: Nevermind, I see it now, you don't have a front brake. Nice!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

lol reminds me of a x12 with those pegs

[FiveStarSky]

Gawd I hate those frames. But cool none the less, that looks like a sweet stunter.
Whats with the rear brake?...Do you have a handbrake?

yeah, hand brake, its a semi-auto



i had my drap pipe on there, but it fell off when i crashed, the bike sits so low it drags the ground when i turn.

Today was the longest ive ridden the bike (lol 15mins) And compared to my 15, this thing 'isnt worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on' I'm still wondering how the hell you are supposed to turn these things, the tree is nothing more than a 1/2" bolt, i hope the 18's arnt built like this, booo x7 x18

[GaRsNoW]

Oh I thought you threw the 110 in there

[FiveStarSky]

Oh I thought you threw the 110 in there

naw, i would like to, but my 110 needs a new kickstart shaft, ($60 part) and i like the lil motor better, it starts up on the first kick, and has better compression than my 110, and is better for stunting i think, cuz i can be more picky about rpms and gearing,

[FiveStarSky]

after i crashed, i learned its better to do wheelies out in the yard, where there is nice soft dirt and grass, and where i can wear my dirtbike helm instead of my full face, that way i dont tear up my nice helm. and i can probably get away wearing blue jeans and knee pads than leather pants. I'll try to get some pics up of my wheelies tomorrow, its to dark, and my mom wont take any more pics since i crashed out on the road... kinda pissed cuz i scuffed up the knees on my leahters a little bit

i need to find a way to put some sort of handle bar sliders on, i smashed up the trottle pretty good when i layed it down

[GaRsNoW]

Yeah thats a good call....I think I should start out in the grass too. Hope I dont tear up the lawn too bad

[ActBAD ok]

hey five remind me to never let you drive my x15moon1, you seem accident pronebluelaugh

[FiveStarSky]

Yeah thats a good call....I think I should start out in the grass too. Hope I dont tear up the lawn too bad


yeah, grass is alot more forgiving than the road, and its easier to bail, and if the bike goes down it wont keep sliding

hey five remind me to never let you drive my x15moon1, you seem accident pronebluelaugh
lol i guess so, but any pro rider will tell you you cant learn without taking a spill everyonce and awhile, besides, what else do you expect with a stunt bike?


I'm wrapping some parts of the frame with the kiddy swimming pool noodles, when i crashed i smashed my thumb against the frame, so gotta protect my self. I'm actually starting to get excited about this bike, i'm gonna go in the exact opposite as my 15, its gonna be slow, ugly, trashed, and down right goofy. Once my 15 parts are in, i'm gonna strip down the bike again, and paint up the frame, probably yellow or some other bright color.

[FiveStarSky]

alright, well, i was out playing in the shop, and here is alist of what i did (sorry no pics untill tomorrow when its daylight)

1. Chopped the tail off untill the two support bars meet
2. welded a seat support brace so i have something sturdy to sit on
3. Make a safty switch (used a jetski safety start, so it will only start when the clip is in, and it has a cord so if i fall off the motor will cut off, might make one for my 15 as well)
4. Still havent figured out the brake problem
5. i think i am gonna put the 15 tank on it, just to give is something to look at. its already scratched, so no loss if it gets a little banged up.
6. um... no number six
7. i might try to make a custom seat, cutout the base with ply wood, then screw a rubber mat onto it
8. for the frame, i'm thinking yellow...
9. wheelies are scary
10. but also fun
11. bike has been down 3 times already, the first one hurt, i was on the road, but grass is better.

oh another thing i want to point out, since the pegs are on the rear axle, is super easy to drag a knee, just stick your knee down like 3" and your there! I took the front wheel off and am going to take it to a bike shop tomorrow to see if they can make it hold air. I may just have to order a tube off the internet or somewhere.


Tomorrow i'm gonna re-do the wireing, hook up the safety switch, i'm thinking of ditching my drag can for the stock pipe, keep it from dragging the ground, and i will have to cut it up and shorten it to keep it from sticking out of the back, gonna cut out the expansion chamber section, and weld the remainder together.

[FiveStarSky]

okay, i did some more stuff to the bike, i still cant get the brakes, but my gf's dad has a bleeder kit, so i can get that done soon. (i'm not sure why i'm riding without brakes wave_finger)

Um... other than i'm getting better at the wheelies, x7 front shocks are like landing on concrete, (i might can help this out using my old x15 shocks) putting the bike down at least 15 times, and a bloody knee, its goin good.

I'm not sure what i want to do for the tail, i think choppin off part of the tail frame was a bad idea, now i cant get any leverage on the bike with my butt, so i gotta stand on the pegs and pull the front end up.
The clip on's keep moving when i lay the bike down, now i know why dirtbike style bars are a good idea.

I stuck the stock x7 pipe on there, and chopped part of it off, i may go back and weld some washers in there to dampen the noise, not looking for any performance with this bike, most of the time i just cruse around in 2nd gear, pull the bars up, and get the tire up.

I dont know how in the hell you are supposed to shift with the bike sitting so close to the ground, i cant get my foot under it without it dragging the ground, so what i may do is invert it, push down to shift up.(i kinda wish it was an automatic, would make things easier) but that would put the shifter wayy up near the front of the bike, and my feet are already on the back axle as it is, so its kinda annoying (suicide shift possibly?)


um other than a bloody knee, a sore leg, and a sweaty leather jacket, thats about it.

Pics:

[FiveStarSky]

here is the safty cut off, i still need to make a lanyard to attatch it to my jacket or something, but like it is now, its easy to run and cut the bike off while its laying in the dirt.


Also, anyone have any tips on stunting?

[FiveStarSky]

i'm still thinking of trying to sell the bike, but i will jack the price back up since ive made it alot better, for some reason, i dont feel comfortable on this bike, just something about the bike makes me not trust it, not sure if its beacuse its smaller than my 15, or because i have not ridden it as much, or just about everytime im on the bike i bail during a wheelie.

Oh btw the down count is at 17

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

if you put some 90w oil in the forks, they should be better
17? is that all? lol

[FiveStarSky]

if you put some 90w oil in the forks, they should be better
17? is that all? lol

yeah, i spent more time working on it than riding today, i think the longest ive keep it up is for 2 seconds, but i'm getting more confident on harder surfaces (my driveway) still keeping it off the road

Yeah i will check out puttin oil in the forks, i need it to be real po-go-sticky
i might see if i can switch the springs out for the ones in my 15, might help some. :dunno:

i'm still thinking about scootching the pegs up, that way it would require more work to get the bike up and ballanced, but is more likely to fall forward instead of backwards they are holding up nice though, chrome plated steel, so they should be able to take a fair share of damage.

[rene13]

Tips on stunting: What we did to my buddies X-15 stunt bike, Well I did, I put pegs just like yours, took some air out the tire to give you a bigger balance point, as you get better start filling the tire back up. You will notice a difference. You could also bounce the front to get the front up.

[FiveStarSky]

yeah i took out some air out of the rear tire, it does help, i think my biggest problem is trying to keep the bike going in a straight line, once i get on the back wheel, i start to sway, so i either bail or let it down.

i have a skid plate that will fit these motors, so i'm gonna put that on it, just incase

[FiveStarSky]

I'm thinking about running some sort of light on the bike, but i'm not sure how i would go about doing it, and possibly seeing if i can get the e-start working

[stuntnx7]

I'm thinking about running some sort of light on the bike, but i'm not sure how i would go about doing it, and possibly seeing if i can get the e-start working




find the light wire and wire a light up to it thumbsup2....if you got a test light it will be easy....cover the rear brake on your wheelies...what gear you tryin these wheelies in...are you standing on the pegs or sittin down

[FiveStarSky]

cover the rear brake on your wheelies...what gear you tryin these wheelies in...are you standing on the pegs or sittin down

that would work great if i had a rear brake lol wave_finger
um, 2nd gear, standing on the pegs, but some times i hunch down a bit to try to keep the COG lowered


i cant figure out how to get brake fluid in the bike without using a bleeder kit
i have tried what eveyrone has told me, but no dice

[stuntnx7]

that would work great if i had a rear brake lol wave_finger
um, 2nd gear, standing on the pegs, but some times i hunch down a bit to try to keep the COG lowered


i cant figure out how to get brake fluid in the bike without using a bleeder kit
i have tried what eveyrone has told me, but no dice




what you mean you dont have a rear brake...is it bcuz you cant bleed brakes or do you not have the stuff

[FiveStarSky]

cuz i cant bleed brakes, i have everything there, when i do the thing where you pump the lever, hold it down open the bleeder, close, that thing, it always sqirts out the same amount of fluid thats being sucked down through the master

[stuntnx7]

cuz i cant bleed brakes, i have everything there, when i do the thing where you pump the lever, hold it down open the bleeder, close, that thing, it always sqirts out the same amount of fluid thats being sucked down through the master


i think your master was run dry at one time and the insides are stuck....peck on it LIGHTLY with a screw driver handle or a small somthing .....not to hard but peck it.....check it later and maybe peck it again...if its squirting fluid out the same then your good on the bleeding part....if the pecking doesnt fix it then you need a master

[FiveStarSky]

well from all the times i put it down today, it probably loosened anything that was stuck lol

[rene13]

Sometimes they do get caught up, you can take the caliper apart and polish the piston, clean around the gasket, do the same to the master.

[FiveStarSky]

does anyone know how much brake bleeder kits cost?
i might get one just to make things easier, and it will be usefull to keep it around the shop

[rene13]

does anyone know how much brake bleeder kits cost?
i might get one just to make things easier, and it will be usefull to keep it around the shop
Harbor freight has a good one for a decent price. Is there one arond you.

Before you go buy one, I'll tell you how I bled my brakes.
I noticed that the actuator pin was not going all the way up, so I took it off the bike, took it apart and cleaned it(do the same for the caliper), put it back together, got a small washer that the actuator would not go through, bent it to match the cylinder piston (cone), installed it and got to bleeding.


open the master up,I pumped the brakes hard three times and opened the valve, now before I let go of the lever, I am ready with the brake fluid in hand , pour some in as your letting go this eliminates less chances of ir getting, sometimes around bubbles like to cling, so just tap the master and caliper with a tool a couple of time to free them up, so they can get bled out.

If this doesn't work go for a bleeder.

BLeeding the front brakes is less time-consuming, even with the tight spot where the valve is.

Bleeding the rear brake is a little more tricky, and is a pain.

[FiveStarSky]

okay, well i'm take the bikes to my gf's house, her dad (former CMRA rider) has a bleeder kit, so we will fix the breaks on the 7, then he is gonna help me safty wire and help me get the 15 as close to CMRA tech safety standards, he has tons of parts and know how, so i guess i will update sometime tomorrow, (go stunt the x7 out in a field, and jump it off a mx dirt ramp)

[FiveStarSky]

alright, well i finally got the rear brake working, its not super tight, but enough to gently bring me to a stop. i was stuntin around, had to bail, and smashed up the throttle housing, and so now i gotta fix that. (one of those yoshi throttles wouldnt be a bad idea...)

I'm still keeping my options open on selling the thing (would like to trade for an xbox/ps3, or a lcd tv), as i have zero plans to further mod the thing, or even take it on the street (its just so dang slow). if i have time this week, i'm gonna try to swap the tanks on my 15 & 7, that way it would make re-fueling much easier.

[FiveStarSky]

yeah, i just posted it again in my cl, i really want an lcd tv i can hook my laptop to, that way i can chill out play games on the tv rather than a 17.5" laptop screen (and it would make desiging houses much easier, get a wireless keyboard and mouse, and id be set)

and man, those bmx pegs caught me right in teh back of the leg when i had to bail, that crap hurts, i got a huge (donky) bruse

[GaRsNoW]

That would be a killer deal on your behalf. Goodluck with the trade....I think your going to need it

[FiveStarSky]

i'm not asking for a huge one, maybe a 20" or so. just one that i can watch tv, and use as a monitor for my laptop, or i might just save some cash and buy one, they are decently priced now, i'm not wanting anything fancy or new.

i'm working on converting my media center, i have a regular tv, with a huge sterio system, but now that i have a laptop, listen to itunes rather than radio or a cd, i can have a pretty spiffy set up going.

either that, trade it for a euro pb, or a little go-kart with slicks

[stuntnx7]

okay, well i'm take the bikes to my gf's house, her dad (former CMRA rider) has a bleeder kit, so we will fix the breaks on the 7, then he is gonna help me safty wire and help me get the 15 as close to CMRA tech safety standards, he has tons of parts and know how, so i guess i will update sometime tomorrow, (go stunt the x7 out in a field, and jump it off a mx dirt ramp)



thats def not a good idea on a x7 thinking_smilie but pleeease record it

[FiveStarSky]

actually, i didnt get a change to go over, i had some stuff come up, but i do have a wooden ramp, its about1.5' high, but i will jump it off that, and yes, there will be video cameras present (i dont think i could get enough speed to take the x7 off the mx jump anyway)

[FiveStarSky]

okay well this weekend i'm gonna sell teh x7 for $250 cash, so thats about a $150 profit, and all that money is going on my 15.


I'm gonna sell it with the x15 tank and tail,

but i might rob some parts off the bike before i sell it, as of now only the rear brake works, so i might see if i can get the front brake working, then steal the rotor off the back wheel incase i ever wish to do a dual front setup, then all i would need to buy is a 15/19 cal and line, and i pretty much got it. (already have the fork, all i would need then is a proper sized banjo bolt, and need to buy a tap)

I have school in a bit, then work till 9:30 or so, but when i get home i will try to see what i can do

i was thinking of getting tires and an IRK for the 15 with the money.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

good choices

[FiveStarSky]

what all do you need to do to install an irk? do you have to pull the motor completely apart?

[GaRsNoW]

Im not too sure about an IRK... just do your research on them.
I've read they make your bike stall out, and just not as reliable

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

you need a flywheel puller (or any 2 jaw puller), and an impact screwdriver
the motor will rev very fast, it will die just as fast when you pull the clutch and let off the gas, then BAAAAAAAA again
not for a cruiser, unless you like high rpm cruising

[FiveStarSky]

hm...so is it a good idea to get one or not, i dont really cruse, just mostly do sprint runs down the road

i'm not sure if i want to get one now though, i dont have a the tool to take the clutch and everything off.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i didnt say you needed to take the clutch off
its the flywheel that needs to get pulled off
the irk is made for sprinting, thats what it does best

[GaRsNoW]

Yeah if your WOT then get that thing, you'll most likely love it. Me, I do a lot of neighborhood cruising so after some research on a lot of pitbike forums I decided it wasnt for me

[FiveStarSky]

Yeah if your WOT then get that thing, you'll most likely love it. Me, I do a lot of neighborhood cruising so after some research on a lot of pitbike forums I decided it wasnt for me

i run mine around the neighbor hood, but i dont stay in one gear for long, i have a fun little section i like to play on (see my youtube vid) it has a few hills, turns, and fast/slow parts.

I'll think about it, but i'm gonna wait till i have cash in hand before committing to ordering anything.

if i didnt get an irk, what else would be worth picking up, as i plan to spend $80 or so on tires. (do they make bbk's for 125 motors?)

[FiveStarSky]

Yeah if your WOT then get that thing, you'll most likely love it. Me, I do a lot of neighborhood cruising so after some research on a lot of pitbike forums I decided it wasnt for me

i run mine around the neighbor hood, but i dont stay in one gear for long, i have a fun little section i like to play on (see my youtube vid) it has a few hills, turns, and fast/slow parts.

I'll think about it, but i'm gonna wait till i have cash in hand before committing to ordering anything.

if i didnt get an irk, what else would be worth picking up, as i plan to spend $80 or so on tires. (do they make bbk's for 125 motors?)

i could always buy a bunch of little acessory things (grips, throttle, cdi, etc)

or i might just start saving up for a bike bike or a ysr/nsr