$100 X15 (cont.) [Archive]

FiveStarSky

02-23-2009, 07:14 PM

Part Two:

okay guys, this is a continuation of my "$100 X15 Thread" off PBP

here --> http://www.pocketbikeplanet.com/frontpage/?p=vB45560

It reached the 10 most viewed page in the midbike section.
Its a long read and starts shortly after i bought the bike up to the fire...

quick review:
Bought the bike for $100
Bought parts
Painted
Re-Painted
Custom Pipe
Broke
and now your up to speed.

Here is a list off all the known cost put into the bike so far.

X15: $100
Replacement Forks: $51.36
Mikuni 22mm Carb: $41.80
K&N Air filter: $21.00
Oil: $10.00
Bolts and fuel lines: $10.0
Paint&Clear: $100 (waste of $)
Head breather parts: $10
Gas: ?
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My X15: $344.16

I must admit i did not know much about bikes (even though i have had a few) untill i started to tinker with the 15.

I'm hoping this thread will last for a while, so i'm going to go ahead and set some goals to work for.

1. Have the 15 running properly.
2. Replace as much of the chinese parts as possible.
3. Bigger motor.
4. Cosmetic work. (paint, stickers, possibly new body kit.)
5. Find a parts bike. (15/18/19)

FiveStarSky

02-23-2009, 07:34 PM

Post-Fire:

So after the fire, i am now working on putting the bike back together. I re-did the head breather so its no longer pumping into the intake, I still have to use the snorkle, as my air filter wont fit on the 22mm carb, so i directed the tube straight towards the back of the bike. Since most of the wires were melted off, i am not going to have the gear shift indicator anymore, (thumb_down). I replaced the fuel lines, the old fuel filter i had on it survied the fire, so i am still going to use that for now. I made my fuel lines longer and used 5/8" line instead of 1/2" this time around. I removed the e-start motor, and now here is my first problem.

The fire melted just about all of the wires, and will have to replace them with a new harness.

But I need to know how to connect the wires from the motor to the cdi, then the cdi to the coil. I think i have an idea of how it goes, but i would rather ask first.

Also i am planning to run the wires through the frame to help keep the bike looking clean. And if things go according to plan, after the bike is running properly i will strip the frame, do some minor frame mods, then paint the frame up. (probably white).

stuntnx7

02-23-2009, 08:15 PM

how much were the plastics

FiveStarSky

02-23-2009, 10:15 PM

how much were the plastics

the cheapest ive found for a complete set (not including lights) was about $120 +S&H, i lost the site but i'm sure i can hunt it down again.

Doctor.Dro

02-23-2009, 11:53 PM

FiveStarSky

02-24-2009, 09:18 AM

pm me the color code or the brand and color of the kawasaki green, i am going to paint mine the same color.
also i routed my air filter to the back and has worked great, i have a 12point carb mount, but i haven't gotten the correct screws to put it on, but im pretty happy with the air filter by the seat vents

The color i used is not the official Kawi Green, as that paint is rather exspensive, but i used a color similar, although i think my color is a little bit lighter than the the kawi green. I'll post the color when i get home.
and now that my air filter is in the back, the motor area seems less crowded.

stuntnx7

02-24-2009, 10:30 AM

FiveStarSky

02-25-2009, 08:48 AM

Okay last night i picked up about 80' of 14 guage wire, a toggle on/off switch and some clips, so when i get home today i will (finally) post some pics and work on the wiering.

FiveStarSky

02-27-2009, 03:21 PM

I Fixed It

I basically stuck a litte thing in the carb slide to raise the needle even higher, and it runs now, (so i need a bigger jet)

But anyway, now back to my drag-style exaust, i got it on and it runs well with it on, but DANG! the thing is loud. I'm thinking of either welding a washer to the end of the can (right now its just open ended) to help dampen down the noise. I might even stick some steel wool up in there but am afraid of it catching on fire, (yes it burns when you put a match on it) my little wire-feed welder is having a hard time welding together the steel pipe and alluminum can, but i think i can tack it enough where it will stay.

Or should i just keep it super loud and have almost zero restrictions in the pipe?

I also fixed my on/off switch and that works great.
I redirected the air intake and breather tubes towards the rear.

The speedo and gear indicator wires were melted so those are not working, but plan to either fix them or remove them lol

Pics!

GaRsNoW

02-27-2009, 06:30 PM

Congrats on gettin it going....Post a video of that exhaust

stuntnx7

02-28-2009, 01:31 AM

no wonder it wont run....the pipe doesnt have any back pressure

SoPackedCustoms

02-28-2009, 09:42 AM

Stunt you dont need back pressure to start anything up look at Harleys they just run straight pipes

stuntnx7

02-28-2009, 10:01 AM

Stunt you dont need back pressure to start anything up look at Harleys they just run straight pipes

yea but they are jetted for the pipe they have...your settings are way lean now

FiveStarSky

02-28-2009, 11:38 AM

Congrats on gettin it going....Post a video of that exhaust

yeah, i'm trying to figure out a way that i can, i might have to steal my sisters video camera so i can record it, or use the webcam on my laptop

Blitz$M.Inc.$

02-28-2009, 02:08 PM

i dont think you can weld steel and aluminum together

FiveStarSky

02-28-2009, 03:15 PM

i dont think you can weld steel and aluminum together

you can, i just dont have the right equipment. I some what tacked it holds for now

I did go ahead and end up welding on the washer to the end of the can. Its not as loud and still gives pretty good airflow. I might go ride later today, but its cold and windy...

Supercharged

02-28-2009, 06:57 PM

get a video...the pictures dont suffice for not hearing the drag pipe.

FiveStarSky

03-01-2009, 10:40 PM

hey could someone do me a favor and tell how to do youtube vids up on here??

The carb still needs a few adjustments, but here is a link.
I zipped tied the camera to the front of my bike.

YouTube - X15 with custom Pipe

Niusiic[latvia]

03-02-2009, 03:11 AM

Sounds awesome :clap:

Ghost Rider

03-02-2009, 03:46 AM

That road looks sick but why in the hell are you driving on rocks?

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-02-2009, 04:04 AM

i didnt notice anything out the way
sounds good
you almost had a dog in your intake tho

FiveStarSky

03-02-2009, 08:00 AM

That road looks sick but why in the hell are you driving on rocks?

there is a cheap country road for ya, just tar with gravel on top. and thats pretty much how my first crash happened. My rear tire coulndt get any tracton and slipped out from under me during a turn. falling at 65 hurts...

BTW: this is with the washer tacked on to the end of the pipe. Without it it sounds like a harley

The camera's mic makes the bike sound a bit high pitched compared to what it really is, I still need to do some carb adjustments to get it running better.

FiveStarSky

03-02-2009, 08:04 AM

i didnt notice anything out the way
sounds good
you almost had a dog in your intake tho

yeah, the little one is spunky the big one is pepper. Right after i turn around (where the dogs are) is where the fun turn is (goes right) but there is alot of loose gravel there, so i gotta keep it slow.

GaRsNoW

03-02-2009, 02:57 PM

Doesnt sound too bad....has a nice tone when your cruising low rpms

FiveStarSky

03-02-2009, 03:14 PM

I'm still working on it. I have a few air leaks, but i ran out of JB weld. and am also working on a way to help secure the can better, right now its pretty much zip-tied on and slips off and then the air is not going through the can.

But once i get it more sealed it will probably give a more consistant tone.

FiveStarSky

03-04-2009, 08:56 AM

Well, i figured out why the headbreather tube connected to the intake is a bad idea...

Somehow, my airfilter was clogged with oil...

the only thing i can think of is that while the motor is running it sucked oil out of the motor and into the snorkle, but i still cant figure out how it whent backwards from the snorkle back about 3" to totally clog up my airfilter with oil.

I currently have a K&N style filter, (i know its not as good as foam) and tips on cleaning oil out of it? Right now i have it soaking in a tub of soapy water, i did take an air hose and blew most of it clean.

And with all the oil in my snorkle and filter (alot, it was dripping off of the filter) means i probably will end up taking my carb for a good cleaning.

I aslo finished my pipe, i welded a washer to the end of it to give a little back pressure and help silence the sound. It looks like dooty but It works.

The Nutty Professor

03-04-2009, 09:14 AM

FiveStarSky

03-04-2009, 09:25 AM

Five this "I told ya so" has nothing to do with you but the person who I tried to warn about putting this idea out to people. But Nutty-Rant "DAMN IT! I TOLD YA!" If you guys read back on post in PBP I was worried...no I was damn sure something like this would happen. Did I mention the filter...no, the idea sounded good but the principle had serious flaws. I wasn't the only one blowing the whistle 125cc Crazy tried also. Dudes I ain't no where near the smartest person walkin' but I have made enough bonehead mistakes...aawww forget it. Five I'm glad you got it figuresd out. One request. If I go on PBP and warn people he'll go off the deep end and call me Judas or some other damned (meaning soul) reference from the Bible. So if you can pass the word maybe it will save a few other people the headache. soap_box

yeah, well what i cant figure out is before my bike caught on fire, it had no traces of oil in the filter, carb, or snorkle. But after the fire i replaced all the hoses, and i'm wondering if my new pipe created more of a low pressure in the carb that it sucked more air from the head valve???

The only thing other than that is possibly my air filter was dirty and just got to clogged up with dirt and the only avalible air the carb could find was through the head? :dunno:

On the video i posted, you can see that i was having a bit of throttle lag, when i noticed the fitler, i poped that bad boy off and it runs sooo much better. At first i didnt know what the problem was, so i was tinkering with the carb, then i noticed i had oil dripping from my filter.

In other news... I havent heard back from the guy i was going to trade my 15 for a brand new 18, so i guess that venture is cancled for now. Still jobless, so everything i cant do in my shop at home is still on hold. But i might have a deal comming in that could get me enough for a bbk. or at least a rear sprocket. ( i really dont want to toss in a 125 and up yet without upgrading the breaks, and i think that would be rather costly in the long run.) and if i did put in a bbk my bike would finally come up to the cost of a new bike. (about $600) so i'm still doing pretty good i think thumbsup2

FiveStarSky

03-04-2009, 10:28 AM

I only know one other person who did a direct copy of the idea, and they got banned from PBP. and i dont think you know who will be sharing his "invention" with the rest of the world, so i think we are safe.

I'm trying to trade my huge ass bass cab/amp for a smaller one and cash, and i have some other junk up on craigslist.

Can anyone post some links to sites with cheap BBK's ebay is fine, and free shipping is better!

Ive also seen on a site that has a bbk that turns your stock 110 into a 160.
It seems like a good deal at $300, but i'm weary about it.:dunno:

Doctor.Dro

03-04-2009, 02:47 PM

Well, i figured out why the headbreather tube connected to the intake is a bad idea...

ditto, except i luckily stumbled across mine while disassembling the bike
fortunately i had this homemade catch can that kept the oil out of my snorkel/carb.
but look what came out. its like me and you are living the same chinese pb nightmare, every step of the way lol

yuck!, and there way more where that came from

FiveStarSky

03-04-2009, 03:55 PM

yeah, thats what i got too

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-04-2009, 06:13 PM

[

Ive also seen on a site that has a bbk that turns your stock 110 into a 160.
It seems like a good deal at $300, but i'm weary about it.:dunno:[/QUOTE]

that kit is not for the stock 110s we have, its for a klx motor
the only kit you can get is a 114cc high comp kit, they go for about 150.00

ashar014

03-04-2009, 07:14 PM

FiveStarSky

03-04-2009, 07:39 PM

114cc BBK $148.99 shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lifan-Xtreme-Icon-TRX90-TRX-90-114-Big-Bore-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116Q QitemZ300157910377QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAcces sories

FiveStar,

could you post pics of your custom wireing harness. this would be a great help.

Yeah sure, i'll post a mini how-to as well, i got lucky and got it right the first time. and i'm sure will help some people out.

FiveStarSky

03-05-2009, 07:30 PM

Today i took of some of the un-needed parts up on the handle bars, like the speedo, light switches, and a few other wires and plugs.

Ive been thinking about turning the 15 into a street fighter. Most people here go race-rep, so a SF/mini monster would be different.

Some ideas i have been tossing around would be Cutting off the lower frame to make the 15 frame much like an 18(ditch alot of weight as i want this thing to be a feather), and lowering the front forks aprox 2-3". It would make me have to sit on my wrist though. And i would like to put a light on the bike, but i cant seem to find one cheap enough that i liked, (something like a bowl that i can just bolt on to the front). But if i did that would its brightness be relative to my RPM's? (I currently have no battery on the bike) I would also cut off the little "arms" that stick out up near the tank that hold the upper plastics on. See Pic.

I am aslo working on another idea to put a bigger gas tank in the bike, basically what i would do is get a small plastic can of some type, drill and tap a 1/4" air hose barb to it, and connect the small plastic tank and the stock tank together using a "T" and then go from that to the fuel filter and carb.
And since i have a nice bit of room under my plastic tank cover (i removed the battery tray) i figured that would be a good spot to place it.
I figure if i can find the right container, i could have that done in an afternoon.

And finally, tomorrow is supposed to be 82°F, and i have no classes. Whoo-hoo!rock2

GaRsNoW

03-06-2009, 07:24 AM

Lights are easy. I dont have a battery on my either and I just hooked up a 55w fog light I had layin around. I have one more you can have...it has a cracked lens though, but if you want it you can have it.

Heres mine mounted to the original horn location. And no, it doesnt get dim/brighter depending on the rpms..

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh98/Garsnow2004/Pocketbike/photo-1.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh98/Garsnow2004/Pocketbike/photo3-1.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh98/Garsnow2004/Pocketbike/photo4-1.jpg

FiveStarSky

03-07-2009, 04:20 PM

Okay, so today was a perfect riding day, and I went ahead and lowered the front forks about 2.5" Seems to be okay.

But I wanted to do a speed test, so i did 5 runs, aprox 1/4 mile, and averaged out at 52mph (+ - 2mph).

Which i think is pretty good and about as fast as i can get goin out of the stock 110.

What diffences can i expect with a 114bbk? or would it just be better to wait a few months and get the cash for a 125 or larger motor.

The Nutty Professor

03-08-2009, 09:47 AM

Wait or you'll wish you had later. Going 125cc gives you a base for a future BBK. Wasting money on the stock lump is crazy_smilie

03-08-2009, 10:31 AM

Heres a pic of my street fighter x15 so you can get an idea of thats the look your going for, just took out as much electrical items as i could

oh and if you take the starter off will the key still work as a kill switch?

GaRsNoW

03-08-2009, 10:35 AM

now thats a comfy seat mod!

03-08-2009, 10:43 AM

lol yeah, 2 inch firm foam, and the original seat is on the bottom

FiveStarSky

03-08-2009, 11:05 AM

JR the only electronics i have are the cdi and coil. But if you take the starter motor off the key should still act as a key switch. But since i dont have a key for mine, i just went to the auto store and picked up a $2 on/off switch and it works fine. As you can see in my pics it fits through the hole where the fuse went just fine.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-08-2009, 12:27 PM

now thats a comfy seat mod!

looks like second base!

stuntnx7

03-08-2009, 01:50 PM

rene13

03-09-2009, 01:15 AM

THis is the way I will be connecting my catch can. I need some feedback on this fellas.thinking_smilie

FiveStarSky

03-09-2009, 11:32 AM

THis is the way I will be connecting my catch can. I need some feedback on this fellas.thinking_smilie

Hmmm...I've never seen one that directed the oil back to the motor...
It may be okay, but you would have to make sure all your lines and can is clean to prevent any small junk from getting into the motor. And the rear evac tube should be fine from hooking up to the catch can, i have never had any oil leaking from it, But if your a racer, it wouldnt hurt.

FiveStarSky

03-09-2009, 11:35 AM

lol yeah, 2 inch firm foam, and the original seat is on the bottom

It looks like if you crashed into a pond the bike would still float bluelaugh

But what type of exaust do you have on there? the pipes on your bike looked nothing like my original 15 exhaust.

The Nutty Professor

03-09-2009, 11:50 AM

THis is the way I will be connecting my catch can. I need some feedback on this fellas.thinking_smilie

That should work fine. There was a thread in PM about the same thing. I don't think the guy used the oil fill though not that it matters. I'll see if I can find it for ya.

The Nutty Professor

03-09-2009, 12:04 PM

Well it was in a invite section only and they closed the section. Looks like they dumped the thread also :dunno:

GaRsNoW

03-09-2009, 12:11 PM

Hes got the same pipe I have on my 15

FiveStarSky

03-09-2009, 12:19 PM

weird, mine went back almost to the rear tire, bent up, then flat out towards the back

03-09-2009, 05:25 PM

It looks like if you crashed into a pond the bike would still float bluelaugh

But what type of exaust do you have on there? the pipes on your bike looked nothing like my original 15 exhaust.

lol

its the stock exhaust, I think but it could be different since i bought the bike 3rd hand.

FiveStarSky

03-09-2009, 08:21 PM

Holy Crap knee draggin is FUN!bluelaugh

Ive been playing around but i finally figured it out, I'm not taking too steep of an angle right now, but i at least got it down. I also got a vid, and i will try to upload it later...

But learning that, i also learned what happens if you take the weight off the rear end of the bike duirng a turn... (slides around and loose controll) I guess new tires would help that problem. I'm kinda using the kickstand as a crutch while turning left, and havent figued out how to drag while turning right, but am working on it.

And leads me to a queston.
Is there any point in knee dragging during a race on mids? or is it more for show?

The Nutty Professor

03-09-2009, 08:38 PM

FiveStarSky

03-09-2009, 08:57 PM

You don't have to drag your knee. For some people it's for show but it's real purpose is to gauge to the lean angle you're at or to push the bike up if the angle is too much. The real important part of hanging off is moving your body over and off the bike to move the center of gravity. I have yet to get a knee down the right way on a Mid and I know when I do the bike's going to be leaned way way way over.

Yeah, i know what you mean, on big bikes, they have enough weight and power to keep themselves from low-siding while at such a steep angle during a turn. I just dont think the mids have it in them to keep themselves up at such a steep angle. The gyroscopic effect and the bikes momentum is what keeps them from tipping, which is easy for big bikes, but on a light slow-moving object its just not meant to be. I think the mids COG is too high, because, most often, the rider weighs more than the bike. And the COG is probably where your butt is, so once you lean it over, you COG gets outside the footprint of the bike, which is where the bikes momentum and speed take over for keeping it up, and trying to lean over like a big bike is just the COG is just too far away from the footprint to keep it up without low-siding. Also when you take your butt off the tail to lean (like your are supposed to on a big bike) it takes all the weight off the rear tire, which is where your driving force is located, and when you loose that, you loose your momentum, and you cant keep it from low-siding.

Probably the best way, is to be really tall, and just have your knees stick out like on the mini's while still having your butt on the tail. or add a whole bunch of weight to the bottom of the bike to lower its COG as much as possible. (and no-one who likes to go fast would do that)

(this is also why i lowered the front forks about 2.5" to help lower the COG)

FiveStarSky

03-09-2009, 10:41 PM

okay, i got a vid up.

YouTube - X15 Pocket Bike Knee drag.

Neither of them are very good, the first i didnt lean all the way, and the second the rear tire slipped after i got my butt off the seat

I really hate looking at Midbikes on youtube, its nothing but stock bikes claming to have 500cc motors, and $4000 in parts...

The Nutty Professor

03-10-2009, 07:38 AM

thumbsup2 Smokin shot my man thumbsup2 You long leg guys really hack me off moon1 I have to lean about 4 more inches to get that hahaha

FiveStarSky

03-10-2009, 08:52 AM

thumbsup2 Smokin shot my man thumbsup2 You long leg guys really hack me off moon1 I have to lean about 4 more inches to get that hahaha

you must be really short then? I'm only about 5'7 145lbs. and i just want to say i love the sound my pipe gives out.

The Nutty Professor

03-10-2009, 09:12 AM

Damn I'm 5'7" and it seems like I'm nowhere near the ground? Maybe I'm still riding like I'm on a big bike :dunno: Gonna have to ride this one out thinking_smilie

FiveStarSky

03-10-2009, 09:16 AM

Damn I'm 5'7" and it seems like I'm nowhere near the ground? Maybe I'm still riding like I'm on a big bike :dunno: Gonna have to ride this one out thinking_smilie

well, also, my front end is lowered about 3" so that may have something to do with it as well.

I'm gonna try to make a better vid today, but i have no-one to record me so i might just set the camera up on a tri-pod

Ghost Rider

03-10-2009, 10:06 AM

Haha im 6'4 so i guess i have a slight advantage with leaning but i fit the bike surprisingly well. I still have to shift my butt off a little.

FiveStarSky

03-10-2009, 10:45 AM

Haha im 6'4 so i guess i have a slight advantage with leaning but i fit the bike surprisingly well. I still have to shift my butt off a little. Lol yeah, i'm so short i have to use my leg to hold myself onto the bike, my skinny little butt hardly touches the seat.

yeah, i'm cheating, i'm not really trying to sharp turn, i just think dragging a knee is super fun! i'm still working on getting that right knee down, but i have a new video in the works (i love cameras) its on a tripod but alot closer up to the action

here is a sneak peak. Compare my avatar pic to this.
As you can see in the second pic, i'm not really getting a steep angle, just mostly hanging off the bike, but idc, its super fun

GaRsNoW

03-10-2009, 11:13 AM

looks like your leaning well off the bike more than the bike is actually leaning over.

FiveStarSky

03-10-2009, 11:22 AM

looks like your leaning well off the bike more than the bike is actually leaning over.

yeah, like i was saying earlier, if you lean too far, the bike just dosent have enough momentum to carry itself around the corner. Thats about as far as I can push it without the rear tire wanting to get out from under me where i wont be able to pull it back in, the second turn in the video shows it getting out from under me.
I'm sure with better tires and a smoother road you can get it over a little bit more, but without more weight over the rear tire, it wont get much steeper than that.

I also need to chop off the little part on the kick start that scrapes on the ground. I dont want that catching something and end up losing it.

But i just started to learn, i'm sure after a bit of practice i can get it over a little more, and hopefully, do it in 4th gear, currently i go into the turn in low 3rd, then gas it up to pull myself out.

GaRsNoW

03-10-2009, 02:45 PM

tahts cool man. Ive been wanting to learn, but my rear tire has a 0 tread so Ive gotta wait until I get a new one

FiveStarSky

03-10-2009, 02:50 PM

tahts cool man. Ive been wanting to learn, but my rear tire has a 0 tread so Ive gotta wait until I get a new one

yeah, i should look into replacing mine as well.

Its really not all that hard, its like a roller coaster, the first time is scarry, the rest are fun. Just find a nice turn to practice on, and each pass try to get your knee down as far as you can.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-10-2009, 03:00 PM

the slicks let me lay it over as far as i can/want
the pegs still scrape and they have been raised, no sign of lowside
but ya cut that kicker off and get some tires

FiveStarSky

03-10-2009, 03:03 PM

what tires do you have???

I would want some that give grip, but ones that will last a bit, not really race tires, but something for everyday type usage

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-10-2009, 03:52 PM

then the maxxis id say
the rear tire is about the same size as stock, and is pretty sticky, ive only slipped that tire out in a race

ashar014

03-10-2009, 06:23 PM

FiveStarSky

03-10-2009, 06:46 PM

then the maxxis id say
the rear tire is about the same size as stock, and is pretty sticky, ive only slipped that tire out in a race

Could you post a link or a place to buy them?

Also, do they last long? b/c i dont want tires that will only last a month

GaRsNoW

03-10-2009, 08:03 PM

If you search for maxxis im sure you can find numerous places blitz has recommended where to buy a maxxis rear. Ive been searching ebay the past few weeks...nothing

FiveStarSky

03-17-2009, 12:21 PM

My weld on the kickstart busted again, so i gotta grind it off, and re-weld it. But its free, as of ordering a new kickstart and the cog it goes on.

rene13

03-17-2009, 01:22 PM

If you search for maxxis im sure you can find numerous places blitz has recommended where to buy a maxxis rear. Ive been searching ebay the past few weeks...nothing

Bike bandit or motorcycle superstore. Just google search Scooter tires.

FiveStarSky

03-22-2009, 01:56 AM

Okay, I picked up an X7 today, and now plan to merge the bikes together.

(enter a new chapter on my x15)

So after $100, half a tank of gas, and four hours of driving, a monster, and some gummy bears, i picked up a 50cc 4stroke, semi-auto X7. The bike had obviously been sitting for a while, and i was its Jesus and came to bring the bike to salvation.

The x7 wasnt too bad, it was definately abused though.

I gave the motor a kick, felt it had compression, and started to tear the thing apart, i took apart the entire bike, all the way down to the bare frame.

Some of the damage to the x7 is.

Plastics are cracked, fiberglassed over some cracks, and spray painted over (silver):
has been down hard:
missing left rear-set:
Missing shifter:
Minor rust:

other than that, its not to shabby.
After that was done, I stripped down the X15 to the bare frame, and started to get together an idea of what i need to do.

The Plan:

X7 frame:
X15: forks/tree/clipons:
X7 swinger
X15 Motor
My custom Pipe
X7 Plastics
X15 rims/tires
Dual disk brakes
X7 manifold (foward faceing)
22mm Carb
and not sure on what size sprockets i'm gonna run

(to eventually get a bike similar to Swheels x7/x18 hybird)

Problems with the plan:

unlike Swheels, the X7 and X15 dont share the same frame, much less anything else.

I only have two major problems, both of which are beyond my skill level.
first, the X15 tree will not fit into the slide for the X7 tree. So i plan to cut the slide trees holder thing off the 15 and 7 and switch them, and weld them up. (i dont trust my welding skills for something that important on a bike) That will probably be the hardest part of the project, unless i wait for cash and just order a new x18 tree.

The second major problem is not as difficult, i need to extend the x7 swingarm aprox 2-5" to accomidate for the much larger 15 rear tire. All i need for that is some 1/4" pipe, so that wont be too much troubble. (or once again, i could order an x18 rear swinger) I will do whichever i can get done cheapest, but my friends dad has a nice shop, so i will ask him if he could do the cutting and welding for me.

EDIT: i can get a tree and rear swinger off x18parts for $67.35 shipped.

A few minor things i will have to figure out is

-mount the x15 rear sets on the x7 frame so i can be able to use the rear foot brake

-dual front disk: the x7 and 15 use different calipers, but i dont think that will be a problem. and figureing out how to mount them properly.

Other than that, everything else is pretty straight foward

One major major thing i'm in the process of doing is pulling out the kickstart shaft off the x7 motor and putting it in the x15 motor. (not too sure how to take apart the motors and pull the shaft out)

And if all else fails and i need to abandon ship, I will toss the x7 back together, clean it up, and either keep it or sell it.

But once i get done, this will be a first, an X7 X15 Hybird
Once i get it all together, i'm gonna fix the plastics, paint them either white or a dark blue, (possibly paint the frame black) and throw some numbers on it.
Its gonna be more of a racer, than a road bike, no lights, electronics, and will be as light as possible (the x7 frame weighs sooo much less than the 15 frame)

Here are some pics of what i did all tonight
(sorry for the quality, i used the crappy camera today)

Also, does anyone know how to take apart stock 15/18/19 forks? I have an extra set but the one that has the brake holder the upper chrome part is bent, can i take that off and switch it with the other straight one i have?

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-22-2009, 08:07 AM

FiveStarSky

03-22-2009, 08:15 AM

i admire your ambition, and i wish you luck
but i think your about to get your azz kicked
dont cut the neck off, that just a disaster waiting to happen
i would suggest an old x18 frame to build off of if you want the easier road, i think i still have one
personally i would fix it up and have two bikes, you can ride one while your fixing the other or ride with your girl or boyz

well the x7/18 share the same frame. and i'm gonna buy an 18 tree set to keep me from having to chop up the frame. If things dont work out, i could strip down the bike and build back up the 15 and 7 in a days time, but either route, i still need a coupple of (exspensive) parts

The Nutty Professor

03-22-2009, 09:54 AM

Okay, I picked up an X7 today, and now plan to merge the bikes together.

(enter a new chapter on my x15)

Problems with the plan:

1. unlike Swheels, the X7 and X15 dont share the same frame, much less anything else.

2. I only have two major problems, both of which are beyond my skill level.
first, the X15 tree will not fit into the slide for the X7 tree. So i plan to cut the slide trees holder thing off the 15 and 7 and switch them, and weld them up.

3. The second major problem is not as difficult, i need to extend the x7 swingarm aprox 2-5" to accomidate for the much larger 15 rear tire. All i need for that is some 1/4" pipe, so that wont be too much troubble. (or once again, i could order an x18 rear swinger)

EDIT: i can get a tree and rear swinger off x18parts for $67.35 shipped.

A few minor things i will have to figure out is

4. -dual front disk: the x7 and 15 use different calipers, but i don't think that will be a problem. and figureing out how to mount them properly.

5. One major major thing i'm in the process of doing is pulling out the kickstart shaft off the x7 motor and putting it in the x15 motor. (not too sure how to take apart the motors and pull the shaft out)

6. Once i get it all together, i'm gonna fix the plastics, paint them either white or a dark blue, (possibly paint the frame black) and throw some numbers on it.

7. Also, does anyone know how to take apart stock 15/18/19 forks? I have an extra set but the one that has the brake holder the upper chrome part is bent, can i take that off and switch it with the other straight one i have?

1. Swheels used X7, X18, X1, and a whole host of other parts on his gem.

2. Don't cut that speechless33 It should be a press fit. Turn the lower upside down and I'll bet you can knock it out with a brass or aluminum (large) punch. All that is is a long brass or soft metal bar you picked up somewhere to do the job. Both mine are dumpster saves. I punched out the steering stem on my X22 to fit in X18 triples so it would fit.

3. You'd be better off buying the swinger. Less hassle. Extending one might turn into a nightmare even with a good welder unless they know the bikes and the frame.

4. You want to make sure you use the same type calipers. Different calipers might have different braking forces which can lead to the forks twisting everytime you brake hard. This probably won't damage the forks but it'll make the bike steer funny.

5. There's a process to putting in a kickstart. My buddy called it "loading" the kickstart? Twisting the shaft until it stops and putting on the second half of the case.

6. Go blue a lot of people go white.

7. Remove the bottom bolt first and empty the fluid. If there's any in there. Then open the top. If you do it the other way round there's no tension on the emulation tube with won't let you completely unbolt the bottom which means the fork won't come apart.

Once you get the forks apart wash everything with mineral spirits inside and out and let it dry. There's going to be a ton of gunk from the old oil and fine dirt that got pass the seals.

FiveStarSky

03-22-2009, 10:13 AM

[QUOTE=The Nutty Professor;33833]
2. Don't cut that speechless33 It should be a press fit. Turn the lower upside down and I'll bet you can knock it out with a brass or aluminum (large) punch. All that is is a long brass or soft metal bar you picked up somewhere to do the job. Both mine are dumpster saves. I punched out the steering stem on my X22 to fit in X18 triples so it would fit.

---Yeah, i have an idea that might work, but if not, i will order an 18 tree and that will bolt right in. But i'm not getting what your trying to say with the brass tubes and the forks?

3. You'd be better off buying the swinger. Less hassle. Extending one might turn into a nightmare even with a good welder unless they know the bikes and the frame.

-- i agree, it cost money, but will make things go alot smoother.

4. You want to make sure you use the same type calipers. Different calipers might have different braking forces which can lead to the forks twisting everytime you brake hard. This probably won't damage the forks but it'll make the bike steer funny.

--yeah, i thought about that, what i might do is use the front and rear calipers off the x7 and use them for the dual fronts, that way they will be even.

and just to keep me from getting flamed, i'm not trying to copy swheels bike, or say mine is better, i could never match his skills, but just getting insperation and an idea of the direction i'm wanting to go. (without all the heavy performance mods)

and thanks for the help with the forks nutt. Hopefully by the end of this week, i can have the motor set up in the x7 frame, and start working on the dual front disk.

But now i have a question about the brakes, Do i need to buy anymore parts to make a dual front disk?
i have

-forks with caliper brackets
-2 rotors
-two hoses

i'm not all sure how to connect the two lines to one brake lever, i think there was a post around here somewhere about making them, but i havent found it.

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GaRsNoW

03-22-2009, 06:45 PM

Good luck with this...Want to part out your 15?

FiveStarSky

03-22-2009, 08:49 PM

Good luck with this...Want to part out your 15?

I'm not sure, if i do end up building up the x7, i may just use the leftover parts and put the 50cc motor on the x15 frame. or just try to get two seperate running bikes, or sell off the x7 for money for a motor (there is a guy selling a lifian 140, might ask if he would trade) But i would still much rather combine them, as i love how the x7 frame is soo much lighter than the 15, and the seat and rearsets are a little further back.

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But after looking around at all the parts i have scattered around my shop, i decided to hold off on combining the 7&15 untill i get the major parts i need and go ahead and see what i can do with the 7.

I built it all back up, and got the motor running, The spark plug gives off an awsome spark, it runs nice and tight, and the x7 pipe gives off a nice tone. Its not where i can ride it at the moment, but will be soon.

If i wanted to build it back up to stock, i would need a left rearset, and i'm getting the shift link in the mail sometime, but not sure if its usable or not.
I might just go ahead and see if the 15 rearsets will fit, that way i can get the little guy where i can ride it. Tomorrow after work (my first day) I will come home, and finish putting the bike together. I need to secure the gas tank, mount the brakes, do a few other minor adjustments. I have Yet to see if the E start works or not, right now, just the cdi is hooked up so the bike will kickstart. I need to get a fuel filter and some brake fluid for the thing, and some JB weld to start patching up the plastics (the plastics i have are off two diffent bikes, a yellow and orange one) and getting them ready for paint. I have enough lime green and clear to paint the x7 nice and shiney, but a kawi/amaha wouldnt look to hot, so i'm gonna do a white base coat and then dark blue over that with spray paint. The bike is in okay condition, some parts have a little bit of rust, the chrome paint on one of the forks has flaked off and rusted up. So I might just spray down as much as the bike black, give it a nice "stealth" look (i'm not one to draw attention to myself,)
but white plastics on a black frame would look sick

But back to the idea of a cross x7/15, I need to check to see if the x7 brake calipers will fit on the 15's front caliper mount. As of now, the 15 is in peices, and dont see the point of putting it back together untill i can get a part to fix the motor (kickstart shaft and a kickstart) everytime i think about the idea, it seems less and less feasable. but if i order an x18 tree and swinger ($80 in parts), that will take care of 90% of my worries. the dual front disk still put questions in my mind, but i dont mind running the single 15 rotor. I'm also afraid i might mess up bolting the rotor to the wheel. I'm also concerned that the X18 swinger will not fit in the X7 frame, I know they are supposed to be the same frame, but what do you guys think?

I will post pics of the X7 once i get it all together and rideable. (shouldnt take more than two days if all goes well)

EDIT: The kickstart shaft on the x7 wont fit into the 110cc, so i need roughly $150 for a kickstart shaft, x18 swinger and tree) But if i'm lucky and can get the e start on the x7 working, i will switch that over to the 15 motor untill i can get parts

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-22-2009, 09:49 PM

i dont think S would care if you tried to copy his bike to a T, 'if you think you can', he'd prolly say
he always has stuff he dont tell anybody about

FiveStarSky

03-22-2009, 09:53 PM

i dont think S would care if you tried to copy his bike to a T, 'if you think you can', he'd prolly say
he always has stuff he dont tell anybody about

yeah, i'm sure everyone is keeping some secrets with Vir comming up soon, i so wish i could go, i just hope someone makes some youtube vids of the races, i would love to see you guys in action.

FiveStarSky

03-23-2009, 09:05 AM

X7rocks

03-23-2009, 11:43 AM

yeeah..lots of poeple ahve gone to white...kinda sucks maybe shoulda stuck with all black..ehh its. w.e

FiveStarSky

03-23-2009, 12:09 PM

yeeah..lots of poeple ahve gone to white...kinda sucks maybe shoulda stuck with all black..ehh its. w.e

blacks not really my color, my helm is black with blue, sliver, and white graphics, so i was thinking black frame, white plastic, with bule numbers on the tail ( i have some vinal sheets i can cut numbers and stuff out off )

X7rocks

03-23-2009, 12:13 PM

makes sense my leathers are blue white and black and my helmet is aswell with a tribal design my bike used to be all black but i doubt ill paint the frame(im actually to lazy to do that.

FiveStarSky

03-23-2009, 12:28 PM

makes sense my leathers are blue white and black and my helmet is aswell with a tribal design my bike used to be all black but i doubt ill paint the frame(im actually to lazy to do that.

i would love if i could find a decent price on leathers, but bad thing is i'm a small guy and everything on CL in my area is L and up
yeah, ive never painted a frame before, so i'm guessing spray paint will work fine, i wont do any paint untill i get the x7 with the x15&18 parts together and running, then i will tear down, and start worrying about the cosmetics.

if i did do the black frame, i would also paint the trees, lower shock part of the forks, possibly clipons, and pretty much murder out the frame, and only white would be the plastics.

Tonight after i get off work, if its not raining to bad i will see about the x7 front tire, the vlave stem fell out, so i need to see if thats fixable or needs a replacement.

FiveStarSky

03-23-2009, 02:42 PM

I may have a problem with the chain on the x7/15, but i'm willing to bet that the x15 chain will fit. (gotta use a 18 swinger, which will put the tire and sprocket back further, but it should still be in the x15 chain length.

but its still another "what if and how much will it cost" running in my head.

As long as i can order the x18 parts i need (swinger and tree) and get them on the x7 frame, i'm 80% there, all that would be left is getting the shaft for the motor (and possibly a new set of rings) and then bolt everything back together!

i will probably get whats left of the 7&15 and put that back in the x15 frame, so i guess ill have a 50cc x15, it would be running the x15 frame, swinger, tree, with the x7 motor, forks, tires, but may only have 1 brake if i pull the x7 ones to make dual fronts for the x7 frame, and would probably need another chain. If i do all that, i might just sell off the 50cc x15, and start saving for a motor. the x7 re-build is probably gonna be behind schedule a few days, i start work today, not sure what time ill be getting off, its supposed to rain, and i have less than two weeks to design a house from the ground up.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-23-2009, 05:14 PM

even if the motor on the x7 is stamped 49cc, do you guys think it could be a 70 or 90? I heared that they sometimes stamp the motor a 50 to help it get by customs, and that the 50s dont have 4 gears (which i think mine does)

any of you guys have twocents about this?

yes i had a motor that was stamped a 49 but it was a 70
they made all the cylinders 49 then they just rebore it out to whatever

The Nutty Professor

03-23-2009, 08:23 PM

yes i had a motor that was stamped a 49 but it was a 70
they made all the cylinders 49 then they just rebore it out to whatever

Ya know Blitz I tried to tell someone that but they knew more than I did bluelaugh no not you you're the one who told me.

FiveStarSky

03-23-2009, 08:49 PM

yes i had a motor that was stamped a 49 but it was a 70
they made all the cylinders 49 then they just rebore it out to whatever

so.. do you know how to check and be 100% sure?

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-24-2009, 04:07 AM

pull the head off and measure

The Nutty Professor

03-24-2009, 09:00 AM

I'll bet it's a 70cc. A lot of those later bikes ended up that way. The Chinese were going up in capacity on their scooters and to get pass customs they used the same 50cc molds and up-bored the cylinder like Blitz said. More performance for the customer to buy. They got around the "This thing is slow as crap" by cheating or good business how ever you want to look at it. It wasn't much faster but it solved the problem short term. Which is what they're famous for.

FiveStarSky

03-24-2009, 09:51 AM

pull the head off and measure

I really hope its a 70cc, if so, that will save me about $70 for a part for my 110cc motor, and then i could switch parts, and go ahead and drop the 110 in the x7 frame.

I have never pulled apart a bike motor before, and my go-to guy is flying untill sunday (southwest pilot) so i'm guessing before i do i should drain the oil?

What measurement am i looking for?

thanks you guys, FiveStar

The Nutty Professor

03-24-2009, 10:09 AM

Drain the oil but first check out the stickies on the Mid Bike Talk section on motors.

rene13

03-24-2009, 02:36 PM

I have never pulled apart a bike motor before.

I have a 125cc semi-auto with electric start that I have been sitting on for awhile. I didn't want to mod that motor because I didn't know what I was doing and now I'm going to start modding it. I didn't want to risk it with the new motor.

My plans for it will be: Convert it to manual, 160 BBK, High compression piston, BVH, Race cam, HD oil pump, Kevlar clutch plates, 5 disc clutch, nice carb.thumbsup2

Need help without a manual here this helped me.
http://www.danosbikeshop.com/technical.php?OID=mainTbl
http://www.tightefx.com/projects/
I also have to thankthumbsup2:clap: Blitz, Nutty, Swheels, 125ccrazy cause I have learned alot from them. these guys rock2

FiveStarSky

03-24-2009, 03:21 PM

Nice Find Rene!

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-24-2009, 03:43 PM

rene if you got a 54x54 motor then i dont think there is a bbk for it
you better measure your piston before you order anything

The Nutty Professor

03-24-2009, 08:23 PM

rene if you got a 54x54 motor then i dont think there is a bbk for it
you better measure your piston before you order anything

I think he's right Rene. But all is not lost. Wiseco probably has a piston somewhere in inventory just finding out what you need is the problem. Or go Akunar they if course might know off the top of their head.

Hey looks like Dano added new stuff.

FiveStarSky

03-24-2009, 09:40 PM

well, i guess the only way to really know is crack apart both motors, pull the shafts, and see if they are the same. I'm off of work tomorrow, so i'll see what all i can get done that afternoon.

rene13

03-24-2009, 10:04 PM

rene if you got a 54x54 motor then i dont think there is a bbk for it
you better measure your piston before you order anything

This is the kit I was refering to, it has a skirtless piston, ceramic coated.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150297661717&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem=

FiveStarSky

03-25-2009, 04:07 PM

Alright, well so far today, i mounted the x15 rear sets to the x7 frame, hooked up the rear brake, but am having a little troubble with the foot brake lever, currently, its pointing wayyy to far down. I also managed to get the 15 front tire and forks onto the x7 tree, it fits, but is the tire is so squished the tire only has less than a 1/8" from touching the forks, so i'm not gonna ride it like that untill i can get an x18 tree or figure out a way to use the x15 tree on the 7's frame without any heavy cutting and welding. Right now, its just for a mock up.

I've been looking at pictues, and the x7 and x18 rear swingers look the same, but from eyeballin the massive 15 tires doesnt look like it will fit on the x7 swing, but i guess ill give it a try anyway

The dual front disk brakes are out since the 15 and 7 use diffent style of calipers

I still havent gotten around to pulling the motor parts to see if they can swap.

Other than all that, its going good. It still would be easier to ziptie the x7 plastics to the 15,

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-25-2009, 06:28 PM

This is the kit I was refering to, it has a skirtless piston, ceramic coated.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150297661717&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem=

rene that kit is for my motor, yours is a different thing alltogether
mine is/was 52.4x57
your motor is most likely a 54x54
if you took your 114 motor, then swapped in a stroker crank, you would have your 125
its for this reason that they were unpopular

FiveStarSky

03-25-2009, 06:36 PM

i admire your ambition, and i wish you luck
but i think your about to get your azz kicked

You called it biltz

After noticeing that i would need about 2-$300 in parts just to get a rolling frame, i quit, I'm gonna reverse it, put the x7 plastics on the x15, but i'm gonna chop the x15 frame up a little bit to better accept the x7 plastics.

and this way, i still have two bikes, might can possibly still do the dual disk, and dont have to buy any x18 parts.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-25-2009, 07:02 PM

sorry 5*
i dont wanna be right but i had a feeling
when you think things will be easy is when they go wrong
well hey, you got two bikes man rock2
be careful about cutting the frame

FiveStarSky

03-25-2009, 07:59 PM

sorry 5*
i dont wanna be right but i had a feeling
when you think things will be easy is when they go wrong
well hey, you got two bikes man rock2
be careful about cutting the frame

i just snipped out the bottom part, i'm probably gonna weld it back on once i get the motor back in and running right, then figure out a way to mount the plastic, my x7 did not have the lower plastics like the 2-strokes, so it shouldnt be hard to figure it out. I'm gonna steal the manifold off the x7 to make the carb intake faceing forward.

all i got on the 15 right now is the front end, and the rear swinger. Ive been out in the shop all day, so i'm gonna take a brake and play some computer games or somethin,

once i get the x15 mostly put back together, ill toss the 7 back up, and use that for stuntin or something :dunno: or sell it for motor money! i might possibly try to but the x15 tail and tank on there somehow.

FiveStarSky

03-27-2009, 05:08 PM

Okay guys, here is a moc-up of what i have so far, As you can see, i removed the lower motor cage, and as well as the "arms" that hold the plastics on, Personally, i think the bike looks awsome, but the skinny x7 body does make the bike look alot taller than it originally was. (but its still the same height) cutting the parts shaved a decent amout of weight. I also cut part of the tail section off, that way the tail has a nice clean look.

I have an idea of how i want the front plastics to go on, but am going to wait untill i get a motor in the frame before cutting/modding any of the plastic, I havent found a good way to make the x7 gastank fit, so i'm gonna use the 15 one for now, and i guess i'll just have to take off the gastank cover to put gas in the bike.

But even better news!
I'm currently talking to a guy in dallas who has a 140cc motor, and he wants to do a trade with me for some stuff (my x7 motor, oh and it is a 70cc btw, and an ipod) its a great trade, because he wants a smaller motor for stunting his pitbike, and i never really use my ipod now that i have my kickass laptop (its a qosmio for those who know anything about gameing computers)

the motor is a 4 speed, clutch, big-valve, and comes ready to bolt in (except for some reason, the carb on the motor is a 20mm :dunno:) but i could put my 22mm on there untill i can order a proper sized carb. I dont know if it will come with a pipe or not, if not, i'll continue to use my custom pipe i made, it should work fine. i would need to fix a crack in it first though, good thing JB weld works wonders.

Comment on the pics, your ideas, and opinions!

I may be able to get it as soon as tomorrow, but i'll keep everyone posted.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-27-2009, 05:42 PM

ya it should still be strong enough
i got an inspiron 9400 with a 7800GO chip so i know about gameing laptops rock2

FiveStarSky

03-27-2009, 07:08 PM

ya it should still be strong enough
i got an inspiron 9400 with a 7800GO chip so i know about gameing laptops rock2

oh dude, i got dual 512 vid cards, up to 2gig in vid ram, 4gDDR3 ram, 120gig SSD, and an awsome sound system for laptop. Its nice being able to play crysis at max settings, to bad the battery only last an hour and a half...

ill just leave it at the price i paid for my laptop, i could have bought a early 90's 600, or a ninja 250 in decent condition... but i need it for school, which is cool

FiveStarSky

03-29-2009, 03:51 PM

Alright guys, I have the 70cc motor in the bike right now, It starts up, but needs some serious carb adjustments. I have the gas tank cover in place how i want it, and i had to cut off the metal plate that holds the x7's seat off of the x7 frame, and weld it to the x15 frame, All i have left is to figure out how to mount the tail section, but its broken into two parts, so i need to JB weld it back together before i can start figureing out a way to firmly attatch it to the bike.

I'm still talking to the motor guy, but hopefully we can get this done, if not i'll just fix the 110cc motor and drop it in, then put in the front body panels.

With all the welding and cutting i have done to the frame, its gonna need to be painted or it will rust apart, so the frame is gonna be black. But i'm going to wait untill i am finished mocking up the bike, then i will start to make it look pretty. when i'm done playing with it, i'll snap some shots of it this afternoon.

FiveStarSky

03-29-2009, 04:53 PM

here are some pics, Njoi

First pic: is with the tail plastic in place, i have yet to find a decent way to hold it to the frame, as all the brackets that hold it to the x7 frame are busted off. I dont mid zip-tieing it to the frame, i would rather use bolts if at all possible.

second: showes the part that i had to cut off the x7 frame and weld to the 15 frame. the x7 tailsection is a little bit skinnier, so the bolts have a hard time next to the frame. But this is just a moc up, i will make it so the bolts can be flush with the plate.

third pic: you can see all the cutting done to the frame, i had to chop part of the tail off, the bar that holds up the end of the x15 tail was in the way, and i couldnt fit the x7 tail on there with out removing it. ( i may have cut a little bit too much off, oh well, good thing i have a welder. ) I removed the black side panels off the x7 tank, the black parts were holding the tank up a little, and removing them helped lower the tank closer to the frame. once i get to the point where i begin to fix the plastics i may try to put the black parts on and cut them, so it will not leave a "dent" and still be low to the frame.

FiveStarSky

03-29-2009, 07:27 PM

after the last post, i went back outside to try to get the tail plastic settled in. I have an idea to cut a bracket off the x7, and weld to the x15. (pretty much like i did for the seat mount) except i would also need to drill two holes into the tails plastic, to run bolts through. The bracket would be welded right behind the seat bracket. But i also came along another problem. Since the x7 tail frame is not as wide as the x15's the plastic tail does not fit on there straight, i may end up having to cut off part of the tips that go underneath the seat to make the tailsection bolt on straight. But i will wait untill i can get some of the plastic weld so i can repair the tail section before starting to mod it. I also found a way i might be able to lower the tank just a little bit more, the less gap between the tank and frame the better. I was going to put on the front and rear fenders and take a picture, but i cant seem to find them...

FiveStarSky

03-29-2009, 10:24 PM

okay, here is a rendering i did for what the bike my possibly look like,

Black frame (preferably flat black)
white plastic
yellow number tag (may possiblly make it using a custom sticker)

Pretty simple, (and cheap to paint) and gives the race look i'm shooting for.

I will paint over the lights as well, except do the left light yellow, for a number tag, with numbers.

I will draw the front of the bike on once i get it attatched to the bike. and i think the lifian motor i may be getting is also black.

tell me whatcha think

The Nutty Professor

03-29-2009, 10:53 PM

FiveStarSky

03-29-2009, 10:55 PM

Great I just hate the exhaust hahaha never have liked that MotoGp thingy

aw comon now, I would much have it up the side or undertail, but with my skills, thats the best custom pipe i'm ever gonna make. but i have been thinking about it.
the stock x7 pipe has an expansion chamber, not sure if that would be better than my custom pipe, but i may re-do it and use the x7 headpipe, and put my KTM can above the motor instead of under it. I would try to get some header wrap, and wrap the header, idc about it rusting as the x7 header is already rusted up. would just have to dremmel out the header, then weld on the can. Assuming it would all fit anyway.

Ghost Rider

03-30-2009, 01:54 AM

You should buy X7stunters x7 fairings to complete yout kit..I think hes got the front nose, windsheild, and headlights, and possibly the side/bottom fairings too

FiveStarSky

03-30-2009, 06:07 AM

You should buy X7stunters x7 fairings to complete yout kit..I think hes got the front nose, windsheild, and headlights, and possibly the side/bottom fairings too

I have the front plastics, i'm just waiting to get all this motor situation figured out before i put them on. I gotta fix quite a few cracks in them first.

X7rocks

03-30-2009, 08:06 AM

the x15 looks alote better without that cradle IMO

FiveStarSky

03-30-2009, 09:26 AM

the x15 looks alote better without that cradle IMO

Yeah, and I got the fame to weigh about the same as an x18/7 frame, but its still better because the x15 frame uses slightly thicker tubing, and it seems to be a bit better designed than the x18 frames (from looking at pics and such)

I also picked up some JB weld, so i can patch up my pipe and fix the plastics, the store didnt have any of the plastic fusing stuff, but JB has always worked fine in the past.

The Nutty Professor

03-30-2009, 09:44 AM

There's actually something better for the pipe. It's made for extreme heat. I have some in the garage. I'll see if I can snap a photo or at least get you the name and pass it on.

FiveStarSky

03-30-2009, 09:59 AM

There's actually something better for the pipe. It's made for extreme heat. I have some in the garage. I'll see if I can snap a photo or at least get you the name and pass it on.

Oh yee of litt'e faith, how dare you question the almighty powers of JB weld!

bows_smilie JB weld, Zip-ties, Ducttape, Bailing wire

Ive used the stuff to patch a hole in my dirtbike crankcase, it holds up to the heat, as along as you let it harden completely before exposing it to extreme heat.

The Nutty Professor

03-30-2009, 10:07 AM

Oh no no no I am not of little faith. I have at least 2 sets at all times. I've repaired cases also. This stuff is like a putty and stays where you put it making it easier to seal cracks and holes.

FiveStarSky

03-30-2009, 10:18 AM

Oh no no no I am not of little faith. I have at least 2 sets at all times. I've repaired cases also. This stuff is like a putty and stays where you put it making it easier to seal cracks and holes.

Hm... sometimes, i let the jb weld sit out for a bit before applying it, that way its a bit more tacky. Jb weld is aslo very sandable, making it good for plastic repairs.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-30-2009, 06:26 PM

looks like fast steering

FiveStarSky

03-30-2009, 09:08 PM

looks like fast steering

fast steering?

Blitz$M.Inc.$

03-30-2009, 09:11 PM

having the front dumped with your butt in the air means fast steering, easy to tuck/crash

The Nutty Professor

03-30-2009, 09:26 PM

Very easy to tuck it. The X22 was a tuck monster.

FiveStarSky

03-30-2009, 09:37 PM

Very easy to tuck it. The X22 was a tuck monster.

yeah, it should be pretty nice, to bad the tiny front end wont give me much of an air bubble to hide under, but i'm a small guy, so it should work out okay.

I havent heard anything back from the motor guy, so i guess that deal is closed... i posted both my 70 & 110 motors on craigslist, see what i might can get for those, as the 125 motors start around $300 or so,

FiveStarSky

03-31-2009, 12:41 PM

what would you guys say about a 125 out off a pitbike?

FiveStarSky

04-03-2009, 05:21 PM

And thats how you put a x7 body on an x15 frame.

Ignore, the crappy paint, zipties, loose wires, and thats what is gonna look like.

I found an awsome and simple way of mounting the front plastics and its solid as a rock. I wont tell how b/c on pbp many people are trying to put x7's on alot of different frames, i want to see what they come up with.

I am going to re-do how i did the tail, its pretty wobbly, i'll fix that though. I would love to add the lower section, but i think the motor is too wide, and is probably more troubble than its worth. The nose sticks out a bit further than i wanted, but it was nessisary to keep my turning radius from being limited. and for the bottom part not to touch the motor. Now i'm trying to figure out the best spot to put my frame sliders on (aka skateboard wheels) i only have two though. I may also make the little buffer brackets to help hold the windscreen section up, but i'm still thinking of the best way to do it.

Please tell me what you think!

Pics:

FiveStarSky

04-03-2009, 05:23 PM

now, i'm trying to decide between two paint ideas. White plastic and a black frame or dark blue (similar to swheels bike)with stock color frame.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-03-2009, 06:46 PM

id like to see the bottom on if possible, it just dont look right without it
i do like the x7 body, just not sure about the 15 frame

FiveStarSky

04-03-2009, 08:20 PM

id like to see the bottom on if possible, it just dont look right without it
i do like the x7 body, just not sure about the 15 frame

yeah, after i get paid again i'll see what i can do for the lowers.

I'm also painting the bike blue, i had 2 brand new cans of paint, so might as well use it instead of buying some. I'm just gonna spray it down with about 3 coats, I dont really mind about the paint, the plastics are pretty thrashed anyway, and were painted over with silver spray paint.

Niusiic[latvia]

04-04-2009, 02:08 PM

hey, 5*, here's what I was talking about

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-04-2009, 02:18 PM

daaaaaaaaaaaam
great photoshop nils

Niusiic[latvia]

04-04-2009, 02:20 PM

daaaaaaaaaaaam
great photoshop nils

Thanks. Newbie at this :)

FiveStarSky

04-04-2009, 03:12 PM

Could you please edit that picture except make the frame black?
That would help me so much.

Thanks FSS

Niusiic[latvia]

04-04-2009, 03:56 PM

Could you please edit that picture except make the frame black?
That would help me so much.

Thanks FSS

with red I liked better!rock2

FiveStarSky

04-04-2009, 05:18 PM

Okay, so last night i met a guy who had a 125 motor for sale, it was cheap ($50) but not working. When i met him he gave me the motor all wrapped up in a box, and i gave him the money. that was around midnight or so.

I took it home, opened the box, and to my suprise, i scored a 26mm mikuni carb, ngk spark plug, and a 125cc motor, a billit shifter, and and awsome looking pipe.

And basically, a long tireing story made short, i got the motor mounted and running. (i had to make another race harness for it) i had to bend the kickstart so it would clear the frame, But once it was in the frame, i went to sleep and today i was in the shop from 10am to 4:30 or so, and this is what i got.

I'm not to sure about the blue, its not bad looking, but i dunno...

Its fully ridable right now, but i still have alot of work to do, i need to make some windscreen supports, figure out what gearing i should run for speed, make it so i dotn have to take off the tail, seat, and gas cover, just to put gas in the bike. Cut some of the plastic, make some more brackets, and lots and lots of things. But the good news is, I got a running, ridable bike. And i'm proud of it.

]-[owler

04-04-2009, 05:27 PM

I would do frame black, and reverse wheels color, except where red, black. Then body panels blue, and outside stripe on rims blue.

GaRsNoW

04-04-2009, 05:27 PM

Looks great! Hows the 125 feel?

GaRsNoW

04-04-2009, 05:28 PM

Also, is there any downfall to cutting that rear motor mount, that would only leave one mount right? Any more vibrations?

FiveStarSky

04-04-2009, 05:31 PM

Also, is there any downfall to cutting that rear motor mount, that would only leave one mount right? Any more vibrations?

Looks great! Hows the 125 feel?

I didnt cut the rear motor mount, they are both still there.

The 125 is awsome, has alot quicker responce than the 110, and the pipe on this thing sounds amazing, I gotta switch the front sprocket for a bigger one, i think that wil make me go faster.

04-04-2009, 06:00 PM

FiveStarSky

04-04-2009, 06:34 PM

that looks pretty good man, but i would paint the frame, gloss black is what i think looks best, and you should be able to pull a front 17 tooth sprocket no problem, and paint the gear cover, its kind of an eye sore, but other than that looks like you got a great deal!

Yeah, i have a 17t, i just gotta switch them out. I will probably hold off on the paint for a while, at least untill i get everything set, i still have a long way to go. I will shoot some paint on the cover though, its off a pitbike

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-04-2009, 06:39 PM

i recommend a 28 tooth rear sprocket
that motor will pull it fine, and you will be flying
looks pretty good so far, please dont put bags over the wheels and paint it wave_finger bluelaugh

FiveStarSky

04-04-2009, 07:03 PM

please dont put bags over the wheels and paint it wave_finger bluelaugh

nah, i didnt have any bags, so i just tryed not to get any overspray on the motor or plastics bluelaugh

I'm trying to fiugre out the best way to mount up some skateboard wheels for frame sliders, I would want them to be in such a way that they keep the clip-on's from touching when it goes down.

so, your thinking a 28t rear? i'll shop around and see what i can find.

I'm also gonna make some windscreen supports, using .25" steel rods, and probbably will have to drill though the plastics to make sure they stay firm.
I'm not too worried about the plastics, they have been down a coupple of times, and i just need them to be on there to please the track people.

uh.. what else... um.. Gotta make a catch can, but i know something that will work perfect for it.

Gotta get a number plate made.

I think i'm gonna leave the bike blue, i'm a fan of light colors, but once i get some stickers and stuff it will brighten it up. I may paint the lights white like swheels did, i just want to be a little more original though...

uh... oh, gotta make the plastics where they are attatched a little more firmly, and fix the gastank issue.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-04-2009, 07:21 PM

FiveStarSky

04-04-2009, 07:30 PM

i was thinking a yamaha blue but like a real light baby blue, that would go good with the white
while your at it, i also recommend a good chain, i have a DID and a RK and both are great compared to the stock chains, you want a 420 size 120 tooth and get a chain breaker as well, it comes in so handy
put the sliders on your axles for sure, man i keep forgetting that myself (to get some)

oh, no way in hell am i doing light blue, thats our school coolors around here, last thing i want to do is make it appear i care about team spirit.
I'll see about a chain, i'm thinking my next move will be to order a new rear sprocket. I dont think the sliders will fit on the rear axle, but i may just bolt them on the swing arm, I'm sure they will be okay with that

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-04-2009, 07:36 PM

like this, but i understand
http://www.alloutgraphics.com/products/racereplica/racereplicadecals.html
http://www.alloutgraphics.com/gallery/cust-pocketbikes.htm

FiveStarSky

04-04-2009, 07:48 PM

i dont think i have it in me to do a full race rep, besides, once its down, its trashed. Spray paint is easy to clean up crash marks. I have anohter idea, i dont think any of you would like it, but do black frame, white plastic, and if i can find the right color gold, do a white with a light gold accent parts on the plastic.

oh and your right about the fast steering, i actually love it though, i can get into a tuck super easy, and that the seat is higher, and further back, allows me to drag a knee like no other.

but for parts, i'm getting a sprocket, then tires.
I might sell off my 22mm mikuni, and my 70cc motor for part money

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-04-2009, 08:03 PM

thats what its about, get a vision and see it happen
+2 for originality, i didnt wanna race rep either, so i made my own race set
maybe you can get some stars and stuff on there like your 'logo'
oh a midnight scene with just 5 stars, maybe a big star with smaller ones around it....lalalala

FiveStarSky

04-04-2009, 08:07 PM

yeah, here is what i did with my old cateye
thats all with spray paint
OHHHHH check it, black frame, white plastic, with a giant gold star on the side, with black trim!

The Nutty Professor

04-05-2009, 04:31 PM

Hey dude look at this dual setup thumbsup2 Now I bet that dog can bark :clap:

FiveStarSky

04-05-2009, 05:21 PM

Hey dude look at this dual setup thumbsup2 Now I bet that dog can bark :clap:

what bike is that?

X7rocks

04-05-2009, 06:58 PM

it started as a x12 the guy who made that bike and another bike is a master welder

FiveStarSky

04-05-2009, 09:06 PM

it started as a x12 the guy who made that bike and another bike is a master welder

yeah, that frame is a work of art.

FiveStarSky

04-05-2009, 10:15 PM

alright, well after riding it around for a bit today, i put the bike through its paces, i love the motor, its alot better than the stock, even though its probably made by the same company.

problems: The pipe got a little too close to the plastics and melted a nice sized hole in the right side plastic, so i gotta clean that area up or something, might be able to fill it back in, but i'm not too worried about that right now. The plastic clips that held the enitre front and side plastics on broke, so now i gotta find out a new way to mount the plastic. I think i figured out how i want to mount the windscreen supports, i just gotta make the brackets. I'm gonna run by the store tomorrow, see what color spray paint they have, and possibly pick out 2 cans if i find some i like. I'll probably pick up some pvc pipe parts to make a catch can. The motor was missing a valve cover when i got it so i went ahead and stuck my hbk on there.

Now that the bikes assembled and rideable, i really dont want to pull it apart just to paint it. But it needs to be done. (for moneys sake i'm thinking of buying the cheap-o cans that cost $1 each, they only come in black and white though, but thats all i need.

FiveStarSky

04-06-2009, 09:34 AM

hey do you guys think a repsol theme would look good on the bike?

Niusiic[latvia]

04-06-2009, 09:40 AM

hey do you guys think a repsol theme would look good on the bike?

Yup. Should look good :)

The Nutty Professor

04-06-2009, 10:11 AM

hey do you guys think a repsol theme would look good on the bike?

Yes but a pain in the arse to repair when you hit the deck banghead

FiveStarSky

04-06-2009, 10:20 AM

Yes but a pain in the arse to repair when you hit the deck banghead

true, I'll just do white, make things simple and easy.

FiveStarSky

04-07-2009, 03:29 PM

Aright, well Today i continued to work on the bike, Most of the big things are done, now its mostly detail work. i switched the front sprocket from 14t to a 17, so i should get more top end gains, but personally, i kinda liked the 14, it gave me much more motor control during turns, but everything with these bikes are trade-offs

I used some PVC and my old airfilter to make a catch can, it should work fine. I painted it red, but quite frankly, it clashes with the bule. I forgot to add another hose for the rear evac port, so i need to take it back off and do that.
I Will probably paint it white or somethin later. The airfilter part is pointed up so any fulids will collect in the bottom of the can.

My wire feed welder ran out of wire, so my windscreen supports are gonna be JB welded together. It should be fine, its not gonna hold much weight, just to keep the windscreen from bouncing around.

Tell me what ya think on the catch can.

I found a 2 peice suit for $50, i'm gonna go meet the guy tonight and hopefully they will fit, if not, there goes two hours of driving and some gas.
its in great shape, never been down, and was worn by the guys GF while she rode on the back, no knee pucks though, but its nice black leather. and even if only one of the parts fit (jacket or pants) its still a good deal for $50, and i could re-sell if needed.

FiveStarSky

04-14-2009, 08:47 PM

Okay well today i made a mistake i seem to make alot, i dont know when to stop.
I bought a bunch of spray paint, and ended up re-spraying all of the plastics, and ended up going back over it all with blue, so now the paint has some crackleing areas, and quite frankly looks like crap. I guess during summer i will sand everything down to the bare plastic and start over.

I did get some plastic glue, and fixed the front nose section, and painted over the lights.
I got some welding wire, so my windscreen supports will finished by tomorrow (no work, time for play!) I ordered an oil cooler from Rene, and if i'm lucky i may get it late this week.

( i did paint the bike white, then did yellow number plates, as the race group i plan to join requres yellow for novice riders, and i didnt like it, so i re did it all with blue. I guess its my fault for not buying the plastic spray paint. So now that its all blue i'm gonna run and get some yellow electrical tape, and just make a number plate useing that. I'm sure it will be fine untill i repaint the plastics again. I hate painting, never turns out right)

I'm not too worried though, As its a race bike, and will probably be going down alot more often while i start practiceing harder.

This may be a stupid idea, but the local cart track only 15mins away, is having a race next weekend, and i'm gonna go up there to protest! Gonna wear my gear, bring my bike, and make a sign saying "Let bikes ride!"

and on the swingarm delema, there is a guy who has on in dallas (1.5 hours away) who said he would bring me one all the way to waco for $60, and off the internet the cheapest i could buy is 50 shipped, and i woudl get a rear shock as well! so i'm gonna give the guy a call this weekend when i get some cash in hand.

I aslo painted my catch can blue, but i may paint it white. (red and blue dont look good)
it seems to be doing its job, when i pulled it off it had oil in there, so thats good.

i'm really tempted to wrap the whole bike in colored electrical tape, at least if i did that it would be smooth. or just get some white primer and sand it smooth. (i just want a solid color, i tried spray paint, looked like crap, tried auto paint, looked like crap)

FiveStarSky

04-22-2009, 08:57 AM

okay got the oil cooler from rene all bolted on, i didnt shorten the lines, but i think it will work fine as is. Since i'm keeping my x7, i'm gonna continue sanding plastics, not sure what color i'm gonna paint it, i'm leaning towards white atm, but i wont start painting untill my swing arm gets in (and my bank account is getting low)

pics of my boots and cooler

FiveStarSky

04-26-2009, 09:45 PM

here is a vid of the bike about 10mins before i highsided, i'm ashamed to look at it but now that i got the bike mostly together, i dont mind posting it now
YouTube - 125 custom x7/15

i still have some carb work, i need to turn the idle down a tad

i'm also planning on re-inforceing the new swing arm this week if i can find the time
the bike is in the process of being painted red, but it was black, so the red turned out very dark, almost like a blood red, not sure if i like it or not. I'm still wanting to classic white though.

i'm gonna keep the red untill i can fab up some windscreen supports, then i'll worry about painting. I'm also thinking of cutting out the little fins in the side plastics

I would really like to just buy a new set, ive found the full for 120+shippin, not sure if i should bite for it or not. But if i do, i can toss these plastics back on the stunt x7

ActBAD ok

04-26-2009, 10:06 PM

is that motor semi-auto or not?? I'm not sure if i should get this
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/mcy/1128859377.html
nvm it says 125cc then 110cc... It would be a easy choice if it was manual... =/

FiveStarSky

04-26-2009, 10:14 PM

mine is full manual, wouldnt have bought it if it was a semi or auto

i'm trying to hunt down a guy in my town who had a dismantled ysr for sale a few months ago, i didnt have the cash at the time to buy it, or the know how about bikes, but looking back i should have bought it, it will probably need quite a few parts i'm sure, but i would love to have a ysr

ActBAD ok

04-26-2009, 10:30 PM

I have this beat up suzuki ds80, I don't know if I could use the Mikuni carb, use parts, sell/trade it, or fix it up...:dunno:

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-27-2009, 04:07 AM

motor swap it

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 08:08 AM

update: i have been chatting with a guy who has a YSR that needs some work, i may end up trading both my mids for it, i'm sure it would be worth it, i'm waiting on pics to come in though

it has a title, too, but the guy has not asked a set price yet, so i'm not sure what he is looking for. I wouldnt mind making it street legal, not really for highway useage, but a fun little toy to drive to church and back (about 10 miles away, and off the highway)

GaRsNoW

04-27-2009, 10:53 AM

depends how much work it needs, but that would be a stellar deal.

stuntnx7

04-27-2009, 11:18 AM

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 02:32 PM

i dunno, even if i cant get it running right away, but aftermarket part avalibilty is way higher for the ysr, but like i said, i'm still waiting on pics, but i will definately take a look at it, make a list of what it has, what its missing, what looks to be needing fixed/replaced.

but when it comes down to it, a stock ysr will smoke my 125 anyday, as long as i dont have to shell out 500+ for it, i should be okay, but i'm not jumping ahead untill i at least see some pics, or if the guy decides he wants cash only.

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 02:33 PM

"I have a ysr. Needs work, I have after market parts plus the original. I also have all title paperwork."

this is what the guy has told me so far, i'm waiting on some emails.

stuntnx7

04-27-2009, 02:44 PM

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 02:50 PM

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-27-2009, 02:51 PM

ya but the way you wreck regular has me thinkin stay with the mids

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 02:56 PM

ya but the way you wreck regular has me thinkin stay with the mids

whattt? oh comon now, my 15 had only been down ONCE! (while i have owned it anyway) and that was because of running on stock tires/shock

the x7 goes down all the time cuz its stunter! and i just toss it away and bail instead of eating it trying to do wheelies.

The only time i have crashed because of my own recklesness, was when i laid down doin 70, (not a mid) and i was an idiot for trying to do what i did.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-27-2009, 03:04 PM

lol ok ok
learning the hard way is often the most lasting lesson

stuntnx7

04-27-2009, 03:06 PM

maybe not smoke, but it will definately out perform on a track, the bigger wheels, damping shocks (even though only one of the front shocks dampens) the rear shock, etc

besides, the 49cc 5 speed two stroke compared to a 125 4t 4 speed, it pops out way more hp

the google-machine says stock ysr's put out 7.1 hp, (assuming motor, not rearwheel hp) i'm not sure about my motor though.

Either way, to buy a ysr is the same as buying and fixing a mid to be the same or better on paper (one still may be better on the track though), thing i like best about the ysr, is that it has a title, and making it street legal would be so much easier.

what im gettin at is your gonna have alot of money tied up in to that thing when you can buy a big bike for the same price and still have a mid to play on :dunno: do you want to have 1000-1500 in a ysr 50 or a F3 or maybe a F4i if you get lucky enough to find a deal,...i seen a clean title F4i stunter the other day for 1500

title the mid or get a big bike for the streets is what i say....you'll get tired of riding that lil bike on the street after a while

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 03:09 PM

stuntnx7

04-27-2009, 03:17 PM

X7: yeah, that may be true, but once again, i'm not sure of what parts i may/maynot need and if it would end up costing me over 1k, your right, i would much rather save up for a used 500+cc bike

Blitz:agreed

what im sayin is if you got the ysr your gonna eventually come up against a mid that has the right parts and it will smoke the ysr and you will know you got wayyyy more money in yours than he does his....i would also just get a cbr600 f2 or f3 and stay away from 500cc bikes bcuz of the resale value....

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 03:21 PM

stuntnx7

04-27-2009, 03:25 PM

yeah, if i ever did come across a mid who was a true-ysr/nsr killer, i would tip my hat to them.

But yeah i would love a big bike way more than a fixed up mid, but i will take just about anything i can afford, as long as its 500cc and up, 600 would be nice, but often cost a bit more. (even though i saw a 91 ninja 750 for 1k today)

you dont want anything kawi if its old...same goes with suzuki....you can get a honda cbr600 f2 or f3 which is 91- 98 without plastics for under a grand and if it runs and shifts good and goes straight then more than most likely you wont have to spend much...hondas last dang near forever and are still fast

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 03:27 PM

i dunno, i'm a kawi guy, but yeah honda would probably be easier to find anyway

stuntnx7

04-27-2009, 03:29 PM

i dunno, i'm a kawi guy, but yeah honda would probably be easier to find anyway

it is bcuz kawi's are broke and rundown

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-27-2009, 03:40 PM

plenty of bikes here that smoke ysr/nsrs
its not really that hard anymore
if bikes had a pound for pound champ, mids could be it

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 03:44 PM

but comparing my 15 vs a ysr/nsr i think the ysr would take it

Blitz$M.Inc.$

04-27-2009, 03:53 PM

well ya because you havent done anything to it yet, really

SoPackedCustoms

04-27-2009, 08:05 PM

five I have an x19 swing arm and shock if your interested

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 08:18 PM

five I have an x19 swing arm and shock if your interested

thanks bro, but i ordered a new swinger from x18parts, they always do a good job, and i got it last friday

FiveStarSky

04-27-2009, 10:36 PM

got another email from the ysr guy

"I am open for trades, I do not have pics. This is a project bike. But I have all the pieces. The frame has some rust. It would need to be sandblasted. I was going to sand blast it then power coat it. I have after market fairings for it. Fresh with no paint. I think I paid $350.00 for the upper and lower. I have an R6 tail section that I paid around $150.00 for it. I have had it for over ten years now. I have the original engine and a 125cc engine for it. I just have not had time to mess with it. So let me know if you want to see it and what you have for trade."

it would be an awsome deal if i could get my hands on this

FiveStarSky

05-01-2009, 03:57 PM

well, i sold the x7 i'm kinda dissapointed i didnt get a few pics of me on it, but oh well, it was an easy $150 profit (bought the bike 100, sold 250)

I bought some new gloves, as my old ones were very torn up.
I got some plastic spray paint, in blue, but it turned out alot darker than i wanted, but blue is blue, I have some white pinstripe tape i plan on doing a few designs with that (most likely some stars) I made my windscreen yellow, and put up a number on them (#5 of course) hopefully the white tape, yellow numberplates will brighten up the bike a bit.

Everything is painted, just waiting on it to dry completelly before putting the number plate on the tail (the glue on it can peel off paint) I'm only required to do one number plate on the tail, but i plan to do two to keep things symetrical

uhm.... whatelse.... gloves are exspensive, the cheapest pair i could find was $17 (mechanic gloves) but i got some blue ones, so they will match my helm and bike. I'm really thinking of trying to make a honda wing on the tank, using the white tape, but it will be hard to make it even on both sides.
I'm aslo gonna make a lable on the tank saying "lean with it, rock with it"

uhm... I may have some parts comming up for sale, including x15 plastics (excluding tank and tail), x7/18 shifter assembly, some stunt pegs (modded to bolt right on the rear axle), and possibly some other junk, more on that later though

the headlights were taped over, (race rules)
so this is a few things off the pre-race list.

FiveStarSky

05-01-2009, 04:18 PM

I'm also having a bogging problem, i'm no expert on carbs, so maybe on off yall can help me out before i jack something up.

Everything is fine untill i hit full open in 4th, then the motor stops, and catches again when the rpm's lower a bit.

ideas?

ActBAD ok

05-01-2009, 07:28 PM

air leak somewhere? check o-rings, gaskets?? I'm having a bogging problem myself... I'm not to worried about it since I plan on changing it when I get my carb/intake

rene13

05-01-2009, 08:32 PM

air leak somewhere? check o-rings, gaskets?? I'm having a bogging problem myself... I'm not to worried about it since I plan on changing it when I get my carb/intake

Just like actbad said check for air leaks, It do tear down the carb from the manifold, use some of that blue RTV Gasket stuff, that works wonders, and it stops air leaks.thumbsup2

As for gaskets it would be better for you to go to the autoparts and get a roll of the gasket material, better quality stuff. tools needed x-acto knife small hammer and part your making a gasket for.

cut a rough stencil of the gasket your making, use the rubber mallet or hammer tap it around the part to imprint the outline needed and your ready to cut. I have scans of some of my gaskets I have made in the past, they come in handy.

FiveStarSky

05-02-2009, 09:11 AM

okay here she is right now.

I also started drilling a few holes to run some safty wire, did on in the oil drain bolt, the oil dipstick, still have some more stuff to do.

I gotta re-do my number on the front, i made it to big, according to the rules, front numbers must be 2-4" and the rear must be 4-6" (the tail number is fine)
and yes i had to do yellow as i'm a noob.

i raised the front end of the nose up about 2" higher than what it used to be, it helps clear the motor a little better, and helps give some windscreen cover.

I still dont know a good way how to put gas in the tank without removing the tail, seat, and tank cover, any ideas? i was thinking making a hose come out of the gas cap, and just slowly fill the tank up by that.

I gotta work today untill 3 or 4, but as soon as i get home i'm gonna leather up, and go have some fun.

The local track has some kart races tonight, i may run over there, and bring my bike and see if i can do some perswading to see if i can get on the track sometime, i have emailed them before, they say no, but maybe if i can get some interest sparked up, i may (just may) get lucky, and see if i can run the track sometime. The track is very technical, and not bike friendly, but its a track none the less. (pic incl) 3/8th mile track

Next item on the list of things to do is the windscreen supports, I finally figured out a decent way to make them, so i'm gonna try to get those done this week while i'm waiting on tires to come in.

ActBAD ok

05-02-2009, 03:03 PM

WOW nice work... looks sick

FiveStarSky

05-02-2009, 03:23 PM

WOW nice work... looks sick

thanks, ive already gone through two tanks of gas today, trying to get used to the bike again, after i crashed, i have been playing it very safe around corners, but once i get my tires in, things will be good.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

05-03-2009, 06:09 AM

FiveStarSky

05-03-2009, 10:01 AM

hey , dont run without your flywheel cover, if dirt or water gets in those windings or pickups you b n trubble
that track looks sweet, is the lower right turn banked? thats one nice thing about sandy hook

oh i just forgot to put it back on, I had to mod it anyway, for the chain to clear and the shifter to fit

its all flat on the track, and it doesnt matter, i cant ride there. Some kid killed himself on a bike a few years ago, and apparently the city of waco (they own the track) issused a ban on buying and selling the bikes, which explanes why the place that sold them closed up shop. But it really was the tracks fault, they didnt enforce helmets. So a few idiots, and a dead guy prevent me from getting on a track.

i'm not too bumed anyway, honsetly, i think mids are a little too big for this track, its not even a half-mile, and the turns are way to steep, unless your runnin slicks, and can throw the bike down pretty quick. I really dont see anyplace you would need to shift into 4th, mostly between 2-3 gear.
and i checked, called, emailed, every kart track in texas (as well as some bike bike tracks) and they all say no.

My bike is too small to run CMRA with ysr's nsr's, and they are super strict on their rules.

So i guess the only track time i will be seeing is during the TexMinGP races.
and according to the site, they only have 1 person running in the mini bike class (and more than likely its just a eruo pocket) i still am waiting for them to call/email me back though.

but on the 24th, the 1/8th mile dragstrip about an hour away is having a bike day all sunday, so I'm sure i will be welcomed there. (ive already called the track owners)

FiveStarSky

05-04-2009, 11:50 AM

'mk, after emailing every kart track in texas, everyone of them said no bikes, except for the two tracks when the TxMiniGP rents them out for the weekend

but i guess its all good

I ordered one of the Maxxis rear tires, and a bridgestone from Howler, so it cost me $70 for tires, not too bad i guess I'm not sure when i will be getting them in though.

Um...

I broke a bike-law yesterday, but i sucessfully taught my bro's gf how to ride the mini bike, she was on that, and i was following her on my enduro (which i am about to start fixing up, and possibly making it street legal again)

I have a few pics of me, not the greatest, but here they are (see how tight my leathers are)

So, if all goes well, drag race on the 24th (i'm sure i can find some pit bikes to go against) TxMiniGP races on the 30&31 (i gotta start saving for hotel rental, gas, food, etc. but i'm really considering just bringing my truck, pulling a trailor in the back with my bike and gear, and bringing a tent to campout at teh track or somewhere)

Um... whatelse... I have an oil leak somewhere, but i cant tell where its comming from. but once i find it, i will just patch the leak for now, untill i can get time to do new gaskets and such.

X7rocks

05-04-2009, 11:54 AM

the bike looks comfortable nice pics thanks for shareig :)

FiveStarSky

05-04-2009, 12:03 PM

the bike looks comfortable nice pics thanks for shareig :)

well, compared to the stock 15 seating arangement, the seat is skinnier, but now its much furhter back, which is great for tucking, cornering, and just general riding, cuz now its more like a big bike, instead of your back straight up, with your hands between your legs

today i will try to drill some more holes for safty wire (anyone know where to buy some)

I'm also gonna try to hunt down a used back protector, or one of the dirtbike chest plate things

X7rocks

05-04-2009, 12:12 PM

stuntnx7

05-04-2009, 12:29 PM

im haveing the same issue with my x18 (Seat being to foward for my hieght and makes me feel difficult) so im going to be makeing a small bracket at work to try and bring the seat of my bike more to the rear

your gonna love it after you move the seat back thumbsup2 its the best mod i ever did...cant wait to get the shorter rearsets on to see if it will be even more comfy

FiveStarSky

05-04-2009, 01:47 PM

yeah, ive never ridden a stock 18, so i cant really compare my seat to that, but compared to an x7, its moved back almost 4" so there is plenty of space to move around on the bike.

X7rocks

05-04-2009, 06:00 PM

looks like ill be takeing measurements on my day off for work

FiveStarSky

05-04-2009, 09:46 PM

stuntnx7

05-04-2009, 09:55 PM

yeah once you get your seat right, it makes things alot easeir

I really hate to say it guys, but after i get tires on the bike, Its as far as i want to go with it. The cost is starting to excede the useage of the bike.

Unless the Race scene starts to gain some momentum with the TxMiniGP the only money i plan to put into the bike is gas, and replacement parts for anyhting that might break. I'm out of school till late August, and they race once a month. Some of the money i put into the 15 should have been saved for other things, ive spent money that i needed for food, clothes, and gas to school, on things like tires, paint, etc.

I know i havent put as much as most of you guys, but i'm really wanting to start saving for a big bike, and since i dont have many things to pay for right now (still live at home) and i figure i only have so long before i gotta start paying big boy bills, and I really need to stop hoggin my money and use it for things that may not seem to important to me, but in the long run, is best.

So I plan to start saving up for a YSR, NSR, NSF or an early 90's 600
but if i did end up with a ysr/nsr, there is no doubt that i will be raceing it
(then i can officially complain about wasting money, but i'm sure i can get my gf's dad to go back to raceing CMRA if i picked one up. 48 year old dudes cant really keep up with the youngsters on a 600)

I think i made an oopsie-dent when i used electrical tape on the paint, i'm pretty sure its gonna peel the paint off. But i have extra paint to re-paint the tail if needed.

the lil 50cc bikes arent a good thing for a long run but the early 90's cbr 600 would be great on gas and do good for a long time without putting money into it...get the big bike twocents...so much more to do on a big bike and you dont get made fun of like you would riding up on a ysr....although i would say ysr's or nsr's are above the scooters in coolness but both are low on the poll bluelaugh...you can do so much with a 600cc if you keep the gearing close to stock...maybe only go 1 down and 2 up...ive got 8 up on the f4i and it sucks on the interstate....75 mph at 8k rpm...i dont ride interstates although its still possible without hurting the engine but if you keep it close to stock you can run all over the place without being annoyed at engine noise

FiveStarSky

05-04-2009, 10:03 PM

the lil 50cc bikes arent a good thing for a long run but the early 90's cbr 600 would be great on gas and do good for a long time without putting money into it...get the big bike twocents...so much more to do on a big bike and you dont get made fun of like you would riding up on a ysr....although i would say ysr's or nsr's are above the scooters in coolness but both are low on the poll bluelaugh...you can do so much with a 600cc if you keep the gearing close to stock...maybe only go 1 down and 2 up...ive got 8 up on the f4i and it sucks on the interstate....75 mph at 8k rpm...

well, if i got a ysr/nsr, i would go full on raceing it, and there are much more options for me to race one of those than a mid. and i'm not really all about top speed, if i did get a 600, it would rarely see above 100, ive been to too many funerals from people riding on roads when they should really be on a track.

and i know they are crap, but i wouldnt mind getting a buell or a similar naked bike, just a regular bike, I'm afraid i might go in over my head if i get on a sport bike, even though i consider my self a "safe rider" its more about the ride, i'm not too concerned about how fast i can get there.

and if i can get around $1500 or so saved up, i can start looking for bikes. I dont mind getting one that needs work, as long as it runs, rides, and is street legal, I'll take it.

stuntnx7

05-04-2009, 10:07 PM

well, if i got a ysr/nsr, i would go full on raceing it, and there are much more options for me to race one of those than a mid. and i'm not really all about top speed, if i did get a 600, it would rarely see above 100, ive been to too many funerals from people riding on roads when they should really be on a track.

and i know they are crap, but i wouldnt mind getting a buell or a similar naked bike, just a regular bike, I'm afraid i might go in over my head if i get on a sport bike, even though i consider my self a "safe rider" its more about the ride, i'm not too concerned about how fast i can get there.

buells suck for stopping too...get a sport bike....yea they go fast but they stop the fastest also....get a cbr600 and make it a naked bike if thats what you want....cbr600 is the only way to go if you go motorcycle and want reliability in the bag...if you want it to be comfy while cruising then put dirt bike bars on it and you'll be comfy thumbsup2

FiveStarSky

05-04-2009, 10:18 PM

buells suck for stopping too...get a sport bike....yea they go fast but they stop the fastest also....get a cbr600 and make it a naked bike if thats what you want....cbr600 is the only way to go if you go motorcycle and want reliability in the bag...if you want it to be comfy while cruising then put dirt bike bars on it and you'll be comfy thumbsup2

well i dont have money to buy right now, so no point in talking till i have some cash i can lay down. but i would like it best if its something that me and my dad could ride, but more than likely, he will toss in some cash as well to help find something we can both enjoy

stuntnx7

05-04-2009, 10:27 PM

well i dont have money to buy right now, so no point in talking till i have some cash i can lay down. but i would like it best if its something that me and my dad could ride, but more than likely, he will toss in some cash as well to help find something we can both enjoy

dad wont be happy with a 50cc....granted you can have fun racing and competing together but for riding everday and sharing the cbr600 is the ticket....

FiveStarSky

05-09-2009, 10:17 AM

okay, well i have a new problem...

I have an oil leak somewhere on the motor, its collecting underneath the motor, then dripping on to my shop floor.

i know the "correct" way to fix it is to buy new gaskets.

But, if i can locate the leak, I will just patch it up for now, at least untill after the races.

Anyone have a good idea to tell were the oil is leaking from?

Blitz$M.Inc.$

05-09-2009, 03:40 PM

clean it all off with carb/brake cleaner
then run it and look for fresh spots
the block to cylinder gasket is popular to leak

FiveStarSky

05-11-2009, 10:29 AM

okay, i think i got the oil problem fixed, the rear evac port didnt have a tube on it, and was spitting oil all over the rear of the bike, then it would collect and drip. so i made a brand new catch can, hopefully that will solve the problem.

Um... got my front tire on. Still no word about my rear maxxis, but i will check the post office today.

My GF's dad let me borrow his back protector untill i buy my own one. Its really nice, and has backpack like straps, then one that goes around the waist. He wore it when he raced CMRA. Its a little big (i'm 5'8 he is 6'2) but it will work.
I was going to order one off ebay for $40, but now that i'm not in a hurry to buy one, i may save up a litttle bit and buy one of the Icon Field armor vest. They have hard armour backprotector, as well as a chest portector. they run about $100 or so.

um... thats about it for now.

oh, and once i get my rear in and take it to the bike shop to be mounted, i'm gotta get some leather goves, so they have some black joerocket gloves for $40, i'll grab a pair.

X7rocks

05-11-2009, 10:50 AM

yeah man budgets suck im trying to get my bike situated and try to get money to go to VIR this year but haveing no personal money sucks even more had to spend a few dollars to repaint my front rim after the machine tearing it up

SoPackedCustoms

05-11-2009, 12:16 PM

dont forget to save money for drill bits you going to need alot of them lol

FiveStarSky

05-11-2009, 03:16 PM

dont forget to save money for drill bits you going to need alot of them lol

for what?....

stuntnx7

05-11-2009, 03:28 PM

for what?....

dual front disc i would guess :dunno:

FiveStarSky

05-11-2009, 03:38 PM

dual front disc i would guess :dunno:

yeah... i'm not going there. I have decided not to spend anymore money on mods for the bike. Just what is nessisary to keep it in race order.

If i get serious about raceing, i will be saving for a ysr/nsr

FiveStarSky

05-11-2009, 04:02 PM

well i called about my rear tire, (powersporsuperstore.com) they said it was delivered to the post office on the 9th, but i havent recived anything yet. they also said they order the tires direct from the manufacturer, so it takes a bit longer. I will check the mail first thing tomorrow morning, and hopefully, i will get it in.

SoPackedCustoms

05-11-2009, 04:18 PM

drill bits for safety wire

FiveStarSky

05-11-2009, 05:14 PM

drill bits for safety wire

oh yeah, i have some drill bits made for metal, and they bore through just fine.

well... Sh*t...

I went outside to go for a quick ride, pulled open the shop door, and saw that my bike had leaked all of its oil out. so i have a major problem on my hands...

I cleaned up the mess, took off the plastics, and took out the motor.

I inspected the motor, but i found no holes or damage to the case, and I did a quick search and could not find where the oil was comming from.

I'm thinking its the main gasket.

Or do you think that oil can leak out of the holes where the bolts go?

I'm really confused, it started out as a slow leak, but in two days, it drained out all of the oil.

I'm about to go back outside, and clean up the motor, and see if i can find the problem.

FiveStarSky

05-11-2009, 06:25 PM

yeah it turns out, ther is a 2.5" crack in the back of the motor. I will JB weld if for now. But may end up going back over and welding a bead over the crack later.
Its a very thin crack. so the jb weld should at least hold oil.

I used jb weld on my enduro when it fell and smashed a hole in the side of the crank case. Jb welded it up, and its held for about 3 years now.

FiveStarSky

05-12-2009, 09:24 PM

Alright well lets see, 18 days till race day, Today i went to the bike shop and picked up some JoeRocket Gloves $40 they are on the cheap side for race gloves, but the store really didnt have very many options. They fit nice and are all leather except for around the wrist.

Man, that Maxxis is a nice rear tire, well made. I cant wait to see how far i can lean it and rock it through turns.

I'm in the tedious process of saftywireing, I"m not using actual safty wire, but something similar and i'm sure it will work, and dont have the wire pliers, but what i'm doing seems fine.

Things wired up so far

Oil Drain Bolt
Oil Fill Thing
Exhaust Can

I still have alot more to do, But i'm gonna toss the motor back in and get it all back together before i do the axel nuts and wheel stuff. I'm gonna safty wire as many things as i can.

I'm gonna go back to the 14t front sprocket, Its kills my top end, but i will be snappy though turns. I cant really think of a good way to mount the oil cooler, there really is no brackets on it or anything, so for now, its just super zip-tied to the frame. I will go back it saftey wire it later.
I got some hose clamps, and put them everywhere they need to go, and relocated my catch can again, its alot more secure than where it was.

Then once i get the bike all together and rideable, I'm gonna go back and re-do all my plastics, and make it so every part can be bolted on. I can always race the bike naked, but I would like to show off what ive done to the thing.

I'm probably gonna call the race director tomorrow and ask a few more questions that i have. Hopefully i can get the bike rideable by 3 or so, then i will leather up, and go hit the curvies.

]-[owler

05-12-2009, 09:28 PM

Your jeans look like mine, oil stains all over. LOL Nice gloves.

FiveStarSky

05-12-2009, 09:33 PM

-[owler;36987']Your jeans look like mine, oil stains all over. LOL Nice gloves.

lol yeah, for me a good pair of jeans is littered with oil stains, but no holes.

SoPackedCustoms

05-12-2009, 09:56 PM

My GF hate me for that like she will go out and buy my some what expensive jeans and when it comes laundry time the oil stains just dont leave lol

FiveStarSky

05-12-2009, 10:51 PM

yeah, mine does the same, i try not to trash the ones that she buys me, but it happens

she should know better, since her dad was a CMRA rider.

BTW, i ran back out in the barn for a bit, got the motor back in the frame. so in the morning i will hook up the electrical, and see how good those new tires are.

I just ordered some Bar end sliders from scooterparts4less, only $13, so why not, and that way the throttle will close if the bike goes down. i got the gold colored ones.

FiveStarSky

05-12-2009, 11:24 PM

and i just checked my bank accound, and the KTM shop DID charge me $20 when the guy who dropped the tire off said he would take it off my card. Tomorrow that place will have some hell to pay.

FiveStarSky

05-13-2009, 01:52 PM

alright, the bikes back together and running, i relocated a few things, adjusted some things, but its all rideable now. I put the 14t sprocket on, and i'm gonna put the 17t back on, the 14t kills my bike. I had some issues with the tires, it seem while cornering, the back end was starting to slip alot sooner than my stock rear, but i took some air out of the rear, and it seems alot smoother now. (adn i noticed the shop guys put in a new valve stem). And right now i'm trying to break in my leather pants as much as possible, I spray them down with water run around till they are dry and repeat. It seems to be helping some, so i'm gonna wear them around the house all day to help loosen them up. I have some sewn in hip pads, that i'm really considering taking out. They restrict me from extending my legs out all the way, which is something i dont like.

The back protector i was lent is really big, the tail bone section extends about 6" under my jacket, and its not really comfortable at all, but untill i buy my own that fits me better, its all i got.

Ive been looking at pics from past TxMiniGP events, and Damn, i'm gonna be ghetto, everyone has honda/kawa/zuki tents, with tables, big toolboxes, trailors. I'm gonna have my Explorer, My small tool box, my bike, bike stand, and my gear. But, I suppose everyone has to start out some where. Most of the guys there have nice one peice race suits. And i got my ghetto girl leathers.

But for my first race, I dont care about lap times, places, all that, i just wanna get around the track in one peice. And I will probbably toss on a yellow shirt (cmra style) just to inform everyone on the track "look out! i'm a dumbass!"

cutlasskel

05-13-2009, 02:20 PM

What track are you riding at? I have been to Iron Rock and another one, but I can't remember the name of it.

FiveStarSky

05-13-2009, 03:12 PM

What track are you riding at? I have been to Iron Rock and another one, but I can't remember the name of it.

GulfCoast Kartway in Katy Texas, Iron Rock is closed, they are suposivly building a new track, but i'm not sure if they have even started construction on the new facililty

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Also, i'm having some troubble with my maxxis rear, i can feel it slip while cornering, right now i'm at about 15psi, is it safe to go anylower?

rene13

05-13-2009, 03:39 PM

GulfCoast Kartway in Katy Texas, Iron Rock is closed, they are suposivly building a new track, but i'm not sure if they have even started construction on the new facililty

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Also, i'm having some troubble with my maxxis rear, i can feel it slip while cornering, right now i'm at about 15psi, is it safe to go anylower?

Its your shock believe it or not. time to Upgrade.

Blitz$M.Inc.$

05-13-2009, 03:52 PM

ya i slipped a maxxis out only one time, they stick pretty good
im betting the shock too
i run about 25-30 psi

FiveStarSky

05-13-2009, 03:54 PM

whats a good shock to upgrade to?

or is there a way to help the one i have now out?

i would rather somehow use what i got than spend 150+ on a rear shock

rene13

05-13-2009, 04:31 PM

whats a good shock to upgrade to?

or is there a way to help the one i have now out?

i would rather somehow use what i got than spend 150+ on a rear shock

http://stores.shop.ebay.com/i-Sportinggoods_Cycling_W0QQ_fsubZ12570627QQ_sidZ197 436544QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322

these are reasoable priced, you get a choice of spring rate and the custom make the bushing. Unpro I think bought one but never gave some feedback. It should work pretty good.

FiveStarSky

05-13-2009, 04:41 PM

mk, i'll look into one if i continue to race

FiveStarSky

05-14-2009, 05:02 PM

well, it seems like i didnt totally fix the oil leak problem... I still have a few drips. Nothing Major, So i will see if i can put some more JB weld on it without having to take the motor off the frame again.

Been working on my turns, i lowered the psi in my rear, its right around 10psi, but it really helps my cornering.

I still have a bit to do before the race, gotta safty wire my axle nuts, and those things are hard to drill through. Ive been spraying down my pants with a water spray bottle before i ride, it seems to help loosen them up some.

I'm really considering raceing with only the nose, tank and tail section on the bike (i'm not sure if my zip-tied on side plastics adn tail will pass tech) I'm still planning on working to have them bolted up some how, but i havent came across and idea that would work decently yet.

FiveStarSky

05-14-2009, 07:51 PM

alright, got on of the front axle bolts safty wired, snapped my drill bit while doing the other side, so now i gotta go buy some more bits...

Doctor.Dro

05-14-2009, 08:23 PM

(i'm not sure if my zip-tied on side plastics adn tail will pass tech) I'm still planning on working to have them bolted up some how, but i havent came across and idea that would work decently yet.

have you looked into the thought of cutting, moving and welding the stock tabs?

just an idea

The Nutty Professor

05-14-2009, 08:31 PM

Ive been spraying down my pants with a water spray bottle before i ride, it seems to help loosen them up some.

That's going to eventually harden the leather. You need to use some saddle soap.

FiveStarSky

05-14-2009, 09:12 PM

have you looked into the thought of cutting, moving and welding the stock tabs?

just an idea

yeah, but quite frankly, i'm tired of working on the thing, ive got alot on my plate right now, i need to get the bike finished safty wired before i do anything else.

FiveStarSky

05-16-2009, 11:27 AM

i just tracked my bar end order, they came in today, but the post office is already closed. So monday i will have those on the bike.

Monday afternoon i will see about making some brackets for the side and tail plastic.
Then i will buy some more drill bits for making holes for the safty wire.

I really dont know how to do it, so all the safty wireing i have done looks like dooty, but i'm sure the people at the races will help me out.

I was planning on running my bike in a bike drag race, but i dotn think i have the money for it right now. My last paycheck was very small, and since i'm switching jobs, i'm not sure when i will be paid for my new job.

i've been kinda slacking on getting stuff for the bike done, so this week i gotta crack the whip and get things done. As well as get as much practice as i can. Ive been looking at the track, and a few youtube vids, and some people are really good, and some are average. The track is really skinny, so my small bike might be an advantage.

If all goes well with the race weekend, i will look into a new suspension, but its hard to find one thats only 8" long, and i dont trust my own welding skills when it comes to something like that.

FiveStarSky

05-16-2009, 11:43 AM

if i can learn how to get a knee down without the rear pogo-sticking i think i'll do fine. The new tires help too, so its easier to thow it into a turn.

I'm gonna get some pics up as well, havent posted any in a while

I'm also starting to make a list of everything i'll need to bring for the race, tents, coolers, tools, clothes, etc...

FiveStarSky

05-17-2009, 07:56 PM

First off, there is nothing better riding in summer, right after a cold front comes though, 65°, sunsetting, relaxed, and ive never ridden that hard before. I had knees down, tuckin, throwing the bike into turns, ahhh... motorcycle heaven...

But!

There has been progress.
As of now all the body panels now bolt on to the frame (no more zip ties!)

For the side plastics, i drilled holes through the frame, then ran bolts throught the frame to hold on the side plastic.

I aslo fabbed up a section to bold down the tail, and it works perfect (i had a hard time thinking of a good way to bolt it down, but i got it now)

I was going to add some skateboard wheels for frame sliders where i bolt the side plastics to the frame, but my bolts where not long enough, so i chopped the wheels in half, and that kinda works. I dont think it will keep the the side from getting trashed in a crash, so this week i will see about getting some longer bolts, and using a whole wheel for each side to help keep the bike off the track in an crash. (feel free to do the same to your bikes, i dont want to see eachothers bikes all smashed up, but idc about the pbp guys bikes)

I feel so much better, cuz now the bike is starting to look half-way decent, and everything is nice and solidly bolted on.

This Sun (24th) There is a drag strip near by, I may try to go and run a few 1/4 miles, but if the entry fee's are rather costly, i will skip out. i need to be sure to have enough money for the track race on the 30-31

Here are a coupple of pics, Comment and Njoi!