Chinese mid massacre

[Unproracer]

wave_finger

[SoPackedCustoms]

what are we expecting out of this one

[Unproracer]

what are we expecting out of this one

:hack: :grind: :weld: machinegun

[Ghost Rider]

:hack: :grind: :weld: machinegun

hahahaha

[The Nutty Professor]

If you're going to cut off the subframe replace it with a aluminum one from a 1:1 bike. Which one I dunno just find one that floats your boat and is already made to bolt onto the original bike. The CBR-6's and R6's are pretty small as are their tailsections but I can't remember if either detaches. That will also solve your ability to easily replace crashed bodywork and give you a wider seating platform. Just the Nutt running his mouth again rolleye0010

[stuntnx7]

If you're going to cut off the subframe replace it with a aluminum one from a 1:1 bike. Which one I dunno just find one that floats your boat and is already made to bolt onto the original bike. The CBR-6's and R6's are pretty small as are their tailsections but I can't remember if either detaches. That will also solve your ability to easily replace crashed bodywork and give you a wider seating platform. Just the Nutt running his mouth again rolleye0010




wave_finger you know how much a sub costs and then add in the tail fairing bluelaugh....plus it wouldnt be to scale of the bike

[Supercharged]

ooooo, can we play i spy!?!

is that a 3 valve 107cc????

[Supercharged]

lolol, im an idiot...it clearly says drop the 140 up in his sketch....tards

[The Nutty Professor]

wave_finger you know how much a sub costs and then add in the tail fairing bluelaugh....plus it wouldnt be to scale of the bike

Um yes I do...I've done many crash estimates on bikes.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories_Motorcycle-Parts-Accessories__Honda-CBR-600-F4i-Subframe-Sub-Frame-Rear_W0QQitemZ110350928796QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20Acce ssoriesQQadiZ2863QQddiZ2811QQadnZMotorcycleQ20Part sQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycle s_Parts_Accessories?hash=item110350928796&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318

And do what we already do....make a NSR seat fit on that. Cut it down the middle and re-weld it making it narrow.

[Unproracer]

Um yes I do...I've done many crash estimates on bikes.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories_Motorcycle-Parts-Accessories__Honda-CBR-600-F4i-Subframe-Sub-Frame-Rear_W0QQitemZ110350928796QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20Acce ssoriesQQadiZ2863QQddiZ2811QQadnZMotorcycleQ20Part sQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycle s_Parts_Accessories?hash=item110350928796&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318

And do what we already do....make a NSR seat fit on that. Cut it down the middle and re-weld it making it narrow.


I do what i want... btw, find me some nsr parts that arn't specialty $$....rolleye0010
No offense intended:GH:

Now help me out and tell me stock or close to stock seat height of the x18 plz?

[ninja x1]

the seat height is around 24 1/2 inches ur welcomethumbsup2

[Unproracer]

the seat height is around 24 1/2 inches ur welcomethumbsup2

rock2

[The Nutty Professor]

I do whatever i want... btw, find me some nsr parts that arn't specialty $$....rolleye0010
No offense intended:GH:

Now help me out and tell me stock or close to stock seat height of the x18 plz?

None taken brah thumbsup2 To much money now that I get. Saying it can't be done...naw. It's do you want to do it and in the end is it worth it to you?

[Unproracer]

None taken brah thumbsup2 To much money now that I get. Saying it can't be done...naw. It's do you want to do it and in the end is it worth it to you?

no hablo jibba jabba....im gonna find some aluminum and not buy $@#^. Thats why i bought the welder, so i don't have to wait for shipping.

[The Nutty Professor]

That's painkiller induced jibber jabber to you brah bluelaugh It made sense...kinda when I typed it.

[Unproracer]

cool_smilie

[Supercharged]

That's painkiller induced jibber jabber to you brah bluelaugh It made sense...kinda when I typed it.

whatever the hell you got professor, i want some toobluelaugh...i want some painkiller induced jibber jabbermoon1

[The Nutty Professor]

whatever the hell you got professor, i want some toobluelaugh...i want some painkiller induced jibber jabbermoon1

ssshhh old man broke-up secret rolleye0010

Pro which swingarm is that? I know it's not a Mid swinger. Looks like...oh KTM or Yamaha?

[Unproracer]

ssshhh old man broke-up secret rolleye0010

Pro which swingarm is that? I know it's not a Mid swinger. Looks like...oh KTM or Yamaha?

kawi kx60

[Unproracer]

ssshhh old man broke-up secret rolleye0010

Pro which swingarm is that? I know it's not a Mid swinger. Looks like...oh KTM or Yamaha?

It didnt go smooth, questioning structural integrity, think i might of fatigued the metal. Minor kinking occurred. :dunno:

[The Nutty Professor]

Is it showing stress cracks or did you re-temper it with heat and now it's got that pretty blue meaning brittle steel? thinking_smilie Or is that aluminum...hard to tell in the photo.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

it does look kinda cooked

[Unproracer]

Is it showing stress cracks or did you re-temper it with heat and now it's got that pretty blue meaning brittle steel? thinking_smilie Or is that aluminum...hard to tell in the photo.

:weld:

[Unproracer]

Ran out of argon and beer....

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

it lives!

[X7rocks]

oh so your makeing a drag bike...i couldnt put much together from the first set of pics just got in and its kinda late

[Unproracer]

oh so your makeing a drag bike...i couldnt put much together from the first set of pics just got in and its kinda late

wave_finger its a track bike :yup: this is only mock up. Fitting a swing arm is... uhh banghead... I still have a lot to define placement and setup wise.

[SoPackedCustoms]

Pro - your going to need alot more bracing where your swing arm is mounted. but so far so good

[X7rocks]

such a large wheelbase it should be a drag bike....

[JR]

loven the swingarmrock2

[Unproracer]

Pro - your going to need alot more bracing where your swing arm is mounted. but so far so good

Not even close to done yet guys. Ran out of welding gas!

[Unproracer]

such a large wheelbase it should be a drag bike....

it was too long. Now its 42.5 inches. rake 28degrees, 105mm trail.

dont like it? kiss my moon1

[briansX19haulsass]

need more picks of finshed work!!!!

[]-[owler]

Nobody should give you static until you've ridden it and said it didn't work. Too many haters.wave_finger Looks solid so far, just hope metal in swingarm didn't fatigue. Ride height looks fine for track. Where did you order motor from?

[Unproracer]

-[owler;36404']Nobody should give you static until you've ridden it and said it didn't work. :dunno: making no assumptions. Where did you order motor from? piranha motorsports via ebay.

.........

[]-[owler]

We should all be here to have fun, right. Remeber, when you assume, you make an a$$ out of u and me(LOL)bluelaugh.

[swheels]

Hey unpro anymore work done to the bike????? I got some new fork mod ideas to share with ya and some to help the rear suspension too.

[SoPackedCustoms]

Unpro great work so far man i really hope you didnt leave us lol well if you did and you came to check up on this good luck with everything if your still here please upload some updates lol

[X7rocks]

what size are those tires:confused:

[Unproracer]

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[rene13]

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I like it, the rear is like a crf50 right? Keep us posted on that shockthumbsup2

[btroxl]

Looking GOOD unpro.

[Niusiic[latvia]]

That's awesome! Looks like pitbike setup!

[The Nutty Professor]

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There's more to say than that brah. Very nice work. The shock compression should be very linear something that is hit or miss with these bikes. Check out the photo of your photo and hit us back if you feel like it.

[Shawnbassett26]

Looks good, kinda like the older Honda RS125 shock set up. Like nutty said its it or miss with custom shock set ups. Ask Brian all about that..... Im linking the direction you got going. Keep up the great work.
~Shawn @ BMS

[Unproracer]

The shock compression should be very linear something that is hit or miss with these bikes. Check out the photo of your photo and hit us back if you feel like it.

1:2 shock:swingarm motion ratio. 1.5":3.25". linear, strong, and functional as i could mount it. Fronts 2.5"~2.75" fork travel, front to back travel is close to balanced. 110lbs dry, as shown. 27 degree rake, 95mm trail, 13 degree droop angle, 42.1"~42.8" Wheelbase. X7/18/Kx~ w/ NSR specs, less lbs so far.

:squid:

Basset - i was influence by moto design books and ultimately the ducati 900s as one of the few current production bikes not utilizing a rising rate linkage.

[The Nutty Professor]

thumbsup2 Very good work. I can see you did your homework which is something I am slack at bluelaugh I was asking about the rear photo's because I wanted to see how linear the push/pull was going to be and it's not bad at-tal. I really like how you "MADE" the swinger work for you which I have to admit I was a doubter. Good show old man moon1

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

will this be a race winner?

[Unproracer]

that or DNF lol

[rene13]

:jacked:Hey unpro give us some feedback on that shock, I want to buy one but, I want to know how good it is? Let us know how it rides once you get to test. thumbsup2

[Unproracer]

Needs new spring, but ill let you know. Quality looks good, adj. dampening and compression is functional.

[rene13]

Needs new spring, but ill let you know. Quality looks good, adj. dampening and compression is functional.

Use the stock shock spring, if it ain't long enough cut another one in half(I think you had a shock that was like this)

[Unproracer]

Use the stock shock spring, if it ain't long enough cut another one in half(I think you had a shock that was like this)

different rate springs rotate during compression at different speeds, creating binding and unwanted freqs.

at a consistent 1:2 motion ratio a 1500lbs feels like a solid mounted swing arm. Even 800 is far too much. Need to finish rough outline of bike, once weight and balance is determined, ill worry about spring rates, but from est. its gonna be somewhere between 300-500lbs spring rate in the rear.

Anyone else open there forks up? I had two sets, one set had 2 poorly chamferd rebound and compression holes in the dampening rods. The stock dampening rods had single rebound holes, 2 compression holes, and no attempts made to chamfer the holes. And the middle of the rod had not been fully drilled out. it had a bottled necked section in it, with terrible burs impeding flow.

Swheels u seen this?

[rene13]

different rate springs rotate during compression at different speeds, creating binding and unwanted freqs.

at a consistent 1:2 motion ratio a 1500lbs feels like a solid mounted swing arm. Even 800 is far too much. Need to finish rough outline of bike, once weight and balance is determined, ill worry about spring rates, but from est. its gonna be somewhere between 300-500lbs spring rate in the rear.

Anyone else open there forks up? I had two sets, one set had 2 poorly chamferd rebound and compression holes in the dampening rods. The stock dampening rods had single rebound holes, 2 compression holes, and no attempts made to chamfer the holes. And the middle of the rod had not been fully drilled out. it had a bottled necked section in it, with terrible burs impeding flow.

Swheels u seen this?

My fork internals have the "S Tech" advantage, the dampenig rods were modified by "Swheels". He can fill you in on what was done. I made my own fork cap preload adjusters. He has a thread on here somewhere. I'm trying to get some 17.5 mm fork valves for these forks, I'll keep you posted.

[Unproracer]

My fork internals have the "S Tech" advantage, the dampenig rods were modified by "Swheels". He can fill you in on what was done. I made my own fork cap preload adjusters. He has a thread on here somewhere. I'm trying to get some 17.5 mm fork valves for these forks, I'll keep you posted.

cartridge emulators u mean?

[rene13]

cartridge emulators u mean?

Yes, there are made by YSS racing suspensions. I keep yall posted.

[Unproracer]

Yes, there are made by YSS racing suspensions. I keep yall posted.

please do, racetech didn't have much info for me on there emulators. Id love to find a drop in set.

[swheels]

different rate springs rotate during compression at different speeds, creating binding and unwanted freqs.

at a consistent 1:2 motion ratio a 1500lbs feels like a solid mounted swing arm. Even 800 is far too much. Need to finish rough outline of bike, once weight and balance is determined, ill worry about spring rates, but from est. its gonna be somewhere between 300-500lbs spring rate in the rear.

Anyone else open there forks up? I had two sets, one set had 2 poorly chamferd rebound and compression holes in the dampening rods. The stock dampening rods had single rebound holes, 2 compression holes, and no attempts made to chamfer the holes. And the middle of the rod had not been fully drilled out. it had a bottled necked section in it, with terrible burs impeding flow.

Swheels u seen this?Yep,Man almost for every set of forks.No 2 sets have the same damper rods.I can make a long list of complaints.LOL I have an idea on another mod for the rods.But i kinda feel it might be unsafe if not done right.So when i get the chance i'm gonna do it to a set of forks and try it out.Then post up my findings.
What you've done to the bike should definitly get you to where you wanna be on the track!
I've been talking about shock rear shock linkage setup.I did a chassis already setup with one.I had a shock with only a 400lbs spring on it.The suspension barely compressed!speechless33 I didn't trust my shock mount welds so i never completed that chassis.So it sound to me like your gonna have to find a lighter spring rate also.Which is good,then the shock wouldn't have to work so hard with that setup.thumbsup2

My fork internals have the "S Tech" advantage, the dampenig rods were modified by "Swheels". He can fill you in on what was done. I made my own fork cap preload adjusters. He has a thread on here somewhere. I'm trying to get some 17.5 mm fork valves for these forks, I'll keep you posted.That's a good one "S tech".LOL

[Unproracer]

That's a good one "S tech".LOL

What exactly is "S-tech" and how can i make it work for me? :)

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

S-tech sounds official to me thumbsup2

[Unproracer]

Update, missing a few parts, but short of a few minor things, the frame is done. Waiting to find out if it works as is before i brace and fine tune.

Anyone selling a front brake master(xbike), cooler lines, clutch cable? maybe even your old x18 caliper and rotor? PM me.

Yes, thats a hydraulic actuated, cable operated rear break...

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

man props on that rig of a brake
i think i see some S-tech lol
rear looks good too
do you think that the exhaust blowing right on the rear tire would help it stick in a race?

[Unproracer]

do you think that the exhaust blowing right on the rear tire would help it stick in a race?

idk, its not directly pointed at the rear, so if i get more traction in right turns ill know its workin lol

[The Nutty Professor]

I like the rear brake idea thinking_smilie Easy solution to my problem or I could just man-up and put the rear back the way it should be bluelaugh As for the exhaust just a small thought...If you get any blow-by the oil will be sprayed right on the tire!!!! Just a OH SHIZZLE!!!!! Thought. I didn't take a close look it I'm just throwing this up. I know lazy :dunno: what ya gonna do haha Unpro you're doing some kickass work my man!!!!!

Oh one question? Is the ring on the fork tube, on the rightside (green), the amount of travel you're getting? If so you fork oil is way too thin. Naw can't be that's a hell of a lot of travel even for a pit bike!!!!!

[Unproracer]

As for the exhaust just a small thought...If you get any blow-by the oil will be sprayed right on the tire!!!!

Oh one question? Is the ring on the fork tube, on the rightside (green), the amount of travel you're getting? If so you fork oil is way too thin. Naw can't be that's a hell of a lot of travel even for a pit bike!!!!!

Lol i was joking before, the exhaust inst pointed at the tire. The pictures deceiving. The rings just up there because i was rebuilding them, and i was marking parts.

Im gonna run AGI 5, theres some theory supporting the idea too thick a fluid has its drawbacks. Well see, seems few people try a regular wt. oil once they open stocks up.
Will be interesting to feel how well OEM suspension would work with clean fluid, cleaned up rods, and a fluid lvl that doesn't let the rod go dry at the top of its stroke.

Besides all that im much more concerned with the slack in the headstock on these x18s...I got a new set but its still got a shift when i grab the front brake.

[cali_guy]

oh god i cant build a puzzle much less a bike in a box LOL lookin good though
hope to see it finished in a pic here thumbsup2thumbsup2

[RomanianRacer]

Besides all that im much more concerned with the slack in the headstock on these x18s...I got a new set but its still got a shift when i grab the front brake.

I noticed that too before with my x12. Is it suppose to do that?
Even If I wasn't braking hard it would do that.

[Unproracer]

I noticed that too before with my x12. Is it suppose to do that?
Even If I wasn't braking hard it would do that.

IDK exactly, seems theres play between the spacers and TT's, play between the bolt and the spacers AND bearings....My original one broke the lower tt upper spacer just from riding, honed out the lower TT, and nuked the bearing/bolt. Im pretty sure the shifting is bad enough it damaged the spacers in the first place.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

my 08 has those stupid aluminum spacers but under that is a sealed bearing like the wheels have
i was gonna put some in from the shop cuz my 07 didnt have that, so i left it, there isnt any play with that sealed bearing in there

[Unproracer]

my 08 has those stupid aluminum spacers but under that is a sealed bearing like the wheels have
i was gonna put some in from the shop cuz my 07 didnt have that, so i left it, there isnt any play with that sealed bearing in there

there not aluminum. There pot metal. composite carboard and forged tin cans..

[The Nutty Professor]

That's why the X15 X19 X22 have the best steering. They use roller bearings in the steering neck.

[Unproracer]

different headtube? or does the roller bearing just sit in the lip like on a x18?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

they sit in a press in cup i think and the trees are different too, i just looked at both
the 15 does have the better steering, i would really like to 'make' that the legal bike, the only think that bike suffers from is the swing, which can be easily boxed, you might box the insides of the middle frame too but thats if your putting down 20 hp

[Unproracer]

got suspension, chain, pipe, brakes - etc all sorted out, just needs some replacement parts now. Unfortunately they are required to ride it. Still working on a custom seat.

[The Nutty Professor]

Damn son!!!! Smokin good job!!!!thumbsup2

[shortguyonamotard]

cant wait to ride this thing!!!

[Unproracer]

Its 4:30am, i just got back from the parking lot w/ the still warm Chinese mid massacre ......

[The Nutty Professor]

DUUUUDDDDEEEE!!!! That just ain't right moon1 You put that out there then just leave it hanging! I realize it was way late but it would have been better to say nothing than tease ya brah's like that! bluelaugh Way no offense Dub, but you would think Unpro was a girl thinking_smilie moon1 Just kidding Unpro did she ride like you expected or better?

[swheels]

What's the verdict man?????
I decided to the rear sock linkage route as i'm starting to find the limits to these mountain bike shocks in combo with the big block motors and high compression. WOOHOO can't wait!!

[Unproracer]

DUUUUDDDDEEEE!!!! That just ain't right You put that out there then just leave it hanging! I realize it was way late but it would have been better to say nothing than tease ya brah's like that!

haha i didn't know you cared that much Nutty lol. I started to type but i was so tired and the 3 double shots i drank on the drive home, were wearing off and i couldn't see straight anymore. i passed out. :dunno:

Well, i gotta say i was a little worried. The first corner felt like turning over the key to a quad cam v6 i just did the timing belt on....

Within the 2nd lap i was dragging pucks. By the 5-6 lap i was leaning it over FARTHER & FASTER in the chicane and everywhere else, then i ever could possibly do on the x bikes. The two guys i ride w/ both tried it out, and the consensuses was unanimous. bows_smilie :clap: :yup:

Its handling is unparalleled in comparison to the stock xbikes it aspired from. Suspension needs tuning but even untuned its certain, the closer to 1:1 you can get, the more control the rear shock has on traction and dampening. And the wheel base and trail contributed dramatically.. Everyone who rode it was hanging off in the first lap it feels so solid in the turn. And throttled wheel spin feels like a thumper motor finally. You can feel it go from smooth acceleration, to slips PER put from the motor. IE the single cylinder traction control sensation. Its got such manageable wheel spin, it does nothing to dis way you from wanting to slide the back tire more... no hop, no pogo, no shady-ness at full lean... NSR50s beware...

My friend got the first few laps on camera but beyond all that im speechless but way over my quota of smilies for this post.... now its going back to the shop to finish the frame boxing, crash protection and final paint coat.

[swheels]

That's excellent it worked out for you.thumbsup2 I gotta admit i was a little worried and thought the rear shock setup might do the teeter totter thing. It will only be sweeter when you start playing with the adjustments on the rear shock too. I gotta little something for you on some front suspension mods.I'm working on it now.I'll send you a pm hit me back let know whatcha think. It's simple to do and should be very affective for the frontend.thumbsup2

[shortguyonamotard]

i was able to get a few laps in on the abomination....holy hell it is not ANYTHIGN like the stock x18 we were tinkering with a year ago. Its super stable, and predictable. With the frame bracing learned from the last x18 frame, and a fork brace it will turn in better and work even better.

I would post the video, but its pretty shitty just due to the lack of lighitng. day time videos / lap times / burnouts / wheelies to come. My go pro is in the mail!

[Unproracer]

New seat, pirelli sl26 100/90 front, michelin bopper 130/90 rear on order. Track day next saturday. AFM minimoto races!

[The Nutty Professor]

If ya need some race parts throw out a request. If I have it to give it's your's dude. I don't havae much but I do have parts I'll (Famous last words) never use.

[Unproracer]

If ya need some race parts throw out a request. If I have it to give it's your's dude. I don't havae much but I do have parts I'll (Famous last words) never use.

race parts? what kinda parts are ya talkin about? I need oil cooler lines, a rear master cylinder that works and x7 side fairings.. ? Ill pay for em if ya got em? Just not much lol :) Thx

[swheels]

Get some track footage.thumbsup2

[The Nutty Professor]

race parts? what kinda parts are ya talkin about? I need oil cooler lines, a rear master cylinder that works and x7 side fairings.. ? Ill pay for em if ya got em? Just not much lol :) Thx

I have a rear master from a X18 I think thinking_smilie and one from a FZR 600 and access to others from whatevers laying around. What ya want. I also think I have something you can use as a cooler line. It's a line from a Tigershark PWC which they don't make anymore. I need to dig it out. It has a hugh banjo on it but I never thought I would be able to use it. Pack ratting strikes again bluelaugh

[Unproracer]

I have a rear master from a X18 I think thinking_smilie and one from a FZR 600 and access to others from whatevers laying around. What ya want. I also think I have something you can use as a cooler line. It's a line from a Tigershark PWC which they don't make anymore. I need to dig it out. It has a hugh banjo on it but I never thought I would be able to use it. Pack ratting strikes again bluelaugh

Got the pack rat gene too, its awesome! except when you have to move... im using fuel evap line right now for the cooler lines speechless33... but i figure they carry fuel, trans oil, other harsh fluids, and rated 120+ PSI...i hope they overlook that at tech this weekend... wheres the prayer smiley???

How to ask.... Does the rear master work?? mine pushes fluid through the brake system, but wont draw from the reservoir unless being bench bleed, a check valve is stuck or the system never intended to go dry... bottom line, ill pm you 'bout the fzr brake... :)

[The Nutty Professor]

Brake systems are push pull so your's should work unless like you said something's stuck which is what it sounds like. And brah when these things stick it better to trash them and move on. Finding that one out the hard way.

[Unproracer]

Got back from the prairie city kart track last night. Fun track, mini cyclone thats like esses with a 6-8 ft drop in elevation in 8 ft of track during the first esse.. major good times. Bike and specially new rear tire worked well. Bopper is a great tire IF it fits in your swing arm. Barely fits in mine. Thing feels real confident even in off camber hard braking or WOT turns. Definitely finding new limitations.

One continuing limitation though is the stock brakes. In a battle for 4th, i started to loosing my front lever. Went soft, and i had to keep pumping it up for any major braking points... Its got EBC pads in the 4 piston design and no rotor heat trax, so i am assuming im boiling brake fluid.... placed 5th in exhibition race against 80lbs kids on nsrs and pit bikes.

Once again, very impressed w. these tires, bang for buck...

[Unproracer]

I got a plate for it now too..

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

dude is that abs?
real abs? like put the clamp on and dont worry about lockup?
if it is , i need it, bad
what a huge freakin caliper!

[X7rocks]

alote of the 150cc scooter jounks have them i should look one up for my scooter

[Unproracer]

primitive abs. dump and check valve. You'd have to really try to lock the caliper up, but you still can. Figure maybe itll work out perfect for the rear wheel, keep it spinnin' while im trying to clutch and match revs.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

oh, well i seem to have this bad habit
thought the abs might be the solution, my only other option is cut two fingers off...

[FiveStarSky]

EDIT: i'm dumb, ignore this post

[The Nutty Professor]

oh, well i seem to have this bad habit
thought the abs might be the solution, my only other option is cut two fingers off...


Blitz Akunar sells them and you might find them on Ebay of course. I found one in the trash box and the shop and scooped it up...just because it was free. I believe you have one line into a splitter or bridge right? If so one between the one line and splitter/bridge might be the answer for ya :dunno:

[FiveStarSky]

here is a link to them.
http://scooterparts4less.com/web_gas/ABS_Upgrade.htm

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ok, how do they work, give the fluid extra room to flow? or meter the pressure to a gradual from a sudden

[Unproracer]

giving its simplicity, its probably just a spring loaded plunger in a reservoir that soaks up excessive fluid pressure in a little

[The Nutty Professor]

That's what I was thinking. I think the passage is...let's make it easy for me to explain bluelaugh Let's say one inch wide. Half that inch is always open the other half has a small block with a spring behind it taking it up. As the pressure in the line reaches a determined rate the spring compresses opening the passage more and dropping the pressure. Did that make any sense?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya but i dont want it to make the brakes weak, thats what i did the duals for
i just need a lockup stopper, do you think it would still work good at half pull?
:jacked:
also, i was thinking of running the duals plus a rear caliper all off of a junction box i got off a car, all to a very big master cyl
if bled right it should be even, right?
im trying to eliminate the foot brake and/or left hand master

[Unproracer]

Too much pressure at once forces the plunger down, filling the dump cylinder and allowing flow that would regularly be locking up the wheel, is now being redirected reducing the overall pressure in the brake system.

A real car/bike abs system compares wheel speeds and/or output shaft speeds, then uses a similar design but w/ a check valve that compeletely cuts flow to the locked wheel, and diverts it all into the dump valve, it pulses the check valve untill it electroniclly sees the wheel speeds the same again or the pressures reduced. The neat thing is traction control, has pumps that actuate via the computers command and applies brake pressure to certin wheels to stop others from sliding, w/o you ever inputing any braking.

[Unproracer]

ya but i dont want it to make the brakes weak, thats what i did the duals for
i just need a lockup stopper, do you think it would still work good at half pull?
:jacked:
also, i was thinking of running the duals plus a rear caliper all off of a junction box i got off a car, all to a very big master cyl
if bled right it should be even, right?
im trying to eliminate the foot brake and/or left hand master

i would advise against that, the hydralic system doesnt know the diff from your front to your rear. The harder you get on the fronts the harder the rear will be applied, but more weight shifts forward the harder you break, decreasing your rear wheel traction budget. Run seperate systems. In theroy if your hard on the front brakes, your rear wheel wouldn't have all that much contact patch touching to brake w/ anyhow. plus your rear wheels already slowing down w/ your shifts and rpm. i think addition unmetered rear brakes would cause issues....

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

good advise, in a racing environment i can see not upsetting the bike being an issue
for once im actually thinking about street use and the sudden hazards that pop up
when im racing i expect some sudden stops, on the street you never know
thanks for your input unpro

[cutlasskel]

i would advise against that, the hydralic system doesnt know the diff from your front to your rear. The harder you get on the fronts the harder the rear will be applied, but more weight shifts forward the harder you break, decreasing your rear wheel traction budget. Run seperate systems. In theroy if your hard on the front brakes, your rear wheel wouldn't have all that much contact patch touching to brake w/ anyhow. plus your rear wheels already slowing down w/ your shifts and rpm. i think addition unmetered rear brakes would cause issues....

Adjustable proportioning valve....

ETA: http://www.wilwood.com/Products/006-MasterCylinders/001-PV/index.asp

My very first bike with hydraulics was set up with one similiar to this.

[USMGP1]

:Sissy::Wheelie::DJ:I see some ouchies coming soon.

[swheels]

good advise, in a racing environment i can see not upsetting the bike being an issue
for once im actually thinking about street use and the sudden hazards that pop up
when im racing i expect some sudden stops, on the street you never know
thanks for your input unproBlitz don't you have the adjustable brake lever.If you do you can dial out some of the braking by adjusting the throw on the lever.So you won't be able to lock up the front brakes.

:Sissy::Wheelie::DJ:I see some ouchies coming soon.Hey Chuck what's the word an the race in Ga at the Dublin track? I'm already making plans to attend.So please tell that it's gonna happen...bows_smilie

[USMGP1]

We would need at least 15 of you guys to make it feasible. Is that possible?

[swheels]

We would need at least 15 of you guys to make it feasible. Is that possible? 15 xbikes well that will never happen.

How about 5 xbikes and 10 or more pocketbikes and mabey some tards too.If it depends souly upon the xbikes or mids.I might as well forget it cuz not enough people will show especially from the xbikes.LOL
Thread jack over.

[Unproracer]

:jacked:proportioning valves r for choppers, bmw's equipped w/ ABS & 4+ wheeled vehicles.

Brakes = forward weight shift = less rear wheel contact patch, motorcycles corner best 40% front tire, 60% back tire weight balance. If you used your rear brakes deep as you can use your front brakes, into a corner your rear wheel will already be unloaded, reducing traction, but now is dragging from braking, AGAINST the tread direction of a rear tire while trying to keep you planted firmly at whatever angle your leaning in at... why do you think the same directional tire is mounted different directions front to back on road going bikes? Because the front tread is setup to grab the passing surface and the rear is intended to push.

Ever watch motard and xm riders slide the rear end around? Thats a result of rear braking in a corner...

speaking of which, the brakes r complete and tested. Indos no problem, rear holds even better then front...

[Unproracer]

updated photos -strange thing that throttle plate actually made the bikes throttle response almost too sharp. Cracking on the throttle in a turn would cause the rear to kick out. Took the plate out and it stopped. Didn't knowtice the difference in high rpm at all.

[briansX19haulsass]

is that clip in the carb really helpin casue if so i may try it

[Unproracer]

is that clip in the carb really helpin casue if so i may try it

like i said, it seemed to increase the throttle response to the point it was twitchy cracking it on durnig a turn.

[shortguyonamotard]

cant wait to take it out for a session on saturday!!!!

[The Nutty Professor]

Pro your figures for front tire load are for Tards. The load for a road bike it reversed that's why they call it "riding the front." Watch Colin Edwards and you'll see him lift the rear and flick it in. There's no way he has a 60% load on the rear at that point. Now powering out after the apex yes.

[Unproracer]

Pro your figures for front tire load are for Tards. The load for a road bike it reversed that's why they call it "riding the front." Watch Colin Edwards and you'll see him lift the rear and flick it in. There's no way he has a 60% load on the rear at that point. Now powering out after the apex yes.

Actually, 40/60 is idea for handling/traction. If you could maintain that at all times in the turn, youd be on the gas through the whole turn. The weight shift due to braking is a adverse effect.

[Unproracer]

Watch Colin Edwards and you'll see him lift the rear and flick it in. There's no way he has a 60% load on the rear at that point.

Colin Edwards flicks the rear into a corner, perfect example of how little lbs is on there rear tire during braking. Load is directly linked to traction. If your trail braking the rear tire into a turn, your maxing out your traction budget. They dont offer a line of credit for that kinda budget. Any time the bikes leaned over, IDEAL weight balance is 40/60.

[The Nutty Professor]

I guess I needed to give a better example :dunno: What I want to say is 60% on the front or more going in. That's why most crashes going in are losing the front. Coming out it's maybe 45% rear 55% front. Any more and you're totally on the rear and headed to a high-side. You can steer with the rear but you better be Aaron Yates or Nicky Hayden.

[Unproracer]

Have a gamble!

[shortguyonamotard]

followed by "bit of a moment!"

[Doctor.Dro]

I guess I needed to give a better example :dunno: What I want to say is 60% on the front or more going in. That's why most crashes going in are losing the front. Coming out it's maybe 45% rear 55% front. Any more and you're totally on the rear and headed to a high-side. You can steer with the rear but you better be Aaron Yates or Nicky Hayden.

but wont too much weight on the front at an aggressive angle, and it will slide out from under you?

from what i understand coming into the turn you favor weight on the front tire, and while exiting the turn, the rear should be favored?.... unless of course your in the special circumstance that you have the control to turn with the rear wheel throughout the apex. which would mean less weight is on the rear the majority of the turn.

.....but i don't have anywhere near a 1/4 of the experience that either unpro or nutty have.

[shortguyonamotard]

but wont too much weight on the front at an aggressive angle, and it will slide out from under you?

from what i understand coming into the turn you favor weight on the front tire, and while exiting the turn, the rear should be favored?.... unless of course your in the special circumstance that you have the control to turn with the rear wheel throughout the apex. which would mean less weight is on the rear the majority of the turn.

.....but i don't have anywhere near a 1/4 of the experience that either unpro or nutty have.

dont believe anythign you read on the forums. go read A Twist of the Wrist II By Keth Code. Awesome book that discusses the above topic, from the prespective of a champion, rather than a gaggle of mini bike riding bench racing idiots with no idea of what is going on.

[Unproracer]

dont believe anythign you read on the forums. go read A Twist of the Wrist II By Keth Code. Awesome book that discusses the above topic, from the prespective of a champion, rather than a gaggle of mini bike riding bench racing idiots with no idea of what is going on.

*ppssst* i think hes talking about us nutty... bluelaugh

[The Nutty Professor]

*ppssst* i think hes talking about us nutty... bluelaugh

That's OK I own and have read both books at least twice. I have raced on 4 and 2 wheels and I drive at high speed for a living on occasion :dunno: At my age do I still have a 10th the talent I might of had??? Nope. I got a unhealthy disregard for my own safety and that allows me to bridge a little of the lost gap. Oh and to go over it again so it's easier I getting the Keith Code DVD's. I never stop learning and I sure as hell am not afraid to say I'm wrong.

My biggest fault is getting pissed with a bike and trying to make it do things it not able too. I don't understand "can't" or "won't".

If you doubt me. Race me and shut me up.

[Unproracer]

If you doubt me. Race me and shut me up.

you dont wanna race him man, hes shorter and lighter then most fully grown adults, like hobbit or something, w/o the big feet.

yea, both books i assume your refering to soft science of RR? good books, both.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

[QUOTE=
If you doubt me. Race me and shut me up.[/QUOTE]

i love that line

[Unproracer]

California = fail... 7AM - i drove 2 hours to the kart track inside the OHV park that i had gone too before, only this time a ranger was at the front entrance writing everyone fix-it tickets for not having current registration on there competition vehicles... this is a supermoto kart track day too so, need less to say a bunch of unplated race motos had to turn back and head home... i talked to some from orange county.. like 6 hours away..

the ranger threatened to confiscate my race mid because it had no vin, and i had no papers on it. Told me it was illegal to even transport in the back of my truck like that.. speechless33 If thats not believable im pretty sure he was BS'n when he said mini bikes are illegal to own in California....i think he omitted "operated on public roads" from his speech, and replaced it with "own."

If this is all true then couldn't i get a ticket for having my??? idk lawnmower in the back of my truck w/o registration?? what applies to karts that are brought there? Do they have registration??? WTF? why are they picking on people who have jobs and stimulate the economy, and do things with obediently civil intentions... they could of had my 60$ but instead they just pissed off a bunch of riders who will never go there again, so supermotousa will probably stop going there too...who's gonna compete if people have to miss races and loose points because they never intended theirs bikes to be on the road.... angry_red

[swheels]

California = fail... 7AM - i drove 2 hours to the kart track inside the OHV park that i had gone too before, only this time a ranger was at the front entrance writing everyone fix-it tickets for not having current registration on there competition vehicles... this is a supermoto kart track day too so, need less to say a bunch of unplated race motos had to turn back and head home... i talked to some from orange county.. like 6 hours away..

the ranger threatened to confiscate my race mid because it had no vin, and i had no papers on it. Told me it was illegal to even transport in the back of my truck like that.. speechless33 If thats not believable im pretty sure he was BS'n when he said mini bikes are illegal to own in California....i think he omitted "operated on public roads" from his speech, and replaced it with "own."

If this is all true then couldn't i get a ticket for having my??? idk lawnmower in the back of my truck w/o registration?? what applies to karts that are brought there? Do they have registration??? WTF? why are they picking on people who have jobs and stimulate the economy, and do things with obediently civil intentions... they could of had my 60$ but instead they just pissed off a bunch of riders who will never go there again, so supermotousa will probably stop going there too...who's gonna compete if people have to miss races and loose points because they never intended theirs bikes to be on the road.... angry_redHOLY SHIT!!!!!!! That can't be right! You guys were riding or attempting ride on a privately own track.
It sounds to me like the owner pist off a big wig or some land developer is interested in that plot of land.Man this sounds like something right out of the old Dukes of hazzard's show. BTW The name of that sheriff wouldn't happen to be Rosco Piccoltrain was it?????

[The Nutty Professor]

you dont wanna race him man, hes shorter and lighter then most fully grown adults, like hobbit or something, w/o the big feet.

yea, both books i assume your refering to soft science of RR? good books, both.

5'7" 160 and mean as a friggin wet cat who's tail you just stepped on that would be me. Pro I'm not mad it just rubbed me the wrong way last night. Very bad day on the job and I was soakin wet most of the 12hrs I was working. I felt like a gumby eraser by midnight. What we had been talking about was very light we never got into the meat of cornering theory. I can't and don't try to remember it all I just try to do things through feel and then read and see if what I felt translates to what Code talks about. Usually I can get close and correct the mistakes by reading what he says.

Can I feel what a bike is doing? I like to think I have no skill where there's concerned but I seem to feel things and I'm usually right and I still think it's luck. Ask S about the front wheel at Elgin. I know I keep bringing it up but that's the most recent one. There are more.


Pro that ranger was full of excrement! I remember something going in that part of the world about a fight over trails and bikes on them. One of the ways they fought the bikes was to say they where not registered and were on public land??? Stupid argument because registering vehilce was meant as a way to tax vehicles to fix road ways. Yes trails have to be fixed but how often and how much does a shovel cost and the worker is already on the payroll whether they're fixing that trail or a pothole somewhere. Nowhere in this country do I know of a place where you have to register a vehicle to drive on private land. Do you know why? Farmers would be pissed the frig off! Farmers have a ton of power in this country. I know I'm jumping around but I'm trying to hit it all. Here they have to register boats which I think is friggin stupid. Ok you have to register and pay for a boat trailer tag if you don't dock it, which most people don't do, but to have to register the boat itself too and pay every year? Mo money mo money mo money! Right now I'm so fed up with the way these people who are supposed to be so smart run things angry_red they're running us into the ground along with stealing every penny they can get and line their pockets with angry_red:jacked: RANT DONE!

[Unproracer]

:fudge:I just wanted to ride my midi on a real track...:bad-day: Now i have to plate it to go back...pm a question 4 u nutty

[The Nutty Professor]

In know the answer was slack but I don't know enough about CA laws to give you a informed one. For the record I think that idiot was trying to apply public land laws to private land. I know they can do that regarding the construction of MX tracks in some areas but this is an existing track on private land. The Land of Fruits and Nuts strikes again.

[swheels]

What did the track owner do???? If he's smart i'm pretty sure he's talking with his lawyers about that issue.Cuase it just doesn't seem right at all.When i lived in a gated community back in Ct.The cops couldn't even come up there unless they were called.So this cop is standing in front of the gates on somebodies private property given out tickets.thinking_smilie

[cutlasskel]

California = fail... 7AM - i drove 2 hours to the kart track inside the OHV park

Does this mean it is on state property? Either way it is bush league of the dude to do that crap.

[The Nutty Professor]

Does this mean it is on state property? Either way it is bush league of the dude to do that crap.

Cut that's given even bush league a bad name. That was just down right jack boot nazi. I understand having to do unpleasant stuff you think is a waste of taxpayer money and harassing people who are trying to have legal fun (Like stopping boaters because you want to do spot checks or road blocks period. They're legal and do catch some bad guys but it's a waste of a normal citizens time. That's why I always try to be very pleasant when I have to do that crap), but to resort to pushing people around using Lady Justice and then bluffing people to the point they believe you are citing state law is way over the top and illegal. I maybe reading more into this without having the facts but if he did what I think he did he could be Federally Indicted for violation of his oath of office and hindering a citizens from exercising their constitutional rights. Read my tag I don't believe in hiding behind the constitution and that goes double for LEO's. They have absolutely no right to knowing violate their oath. That's what gives the job a bad name and pisses me off angry_red

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i woulda told him to sucka nut and write me tickets, then i woulda went and raced
later i woulda beat his tickets in court and refiled on him for something good
a badge dont make you god and this guy had a complex for sure

[The Nutty Professor]

i woulda told him to sucka nut and write me tickets, then i woulda went and raced
later i woulda beat his tickets in court and refiled on him for something good
a badge dont make you god and this guy had a complex for sure

Yeah Blitz those type guys believe "They" are the law. b_s We just represent you good people out there. Guys like that have a little pee pee complex and pushing people around makes the feel like they're somebody.

[FiveStarSky]

yeah, i get crap while out on the jet ski's all the time, the local boat police people love pulling over jet-ski's for "safety checks" since almost no one has everything the are supposed to.

Speaking of stuff like this, there is a video of 2 guys riding dirtbikes, and are using the road ditch to jump over the road. A lady cop was writting one a ticket for driving an unplated bike on the road, while the whole time the other guy is continueing to jump over the road, but since he never was on the road, he never got in troubble. i'm sure it on youtube (too lasy to find it atm)

And its really annoying when you are trying to deal with people (cop or not) who think they are kings of the world, and no matter what you say, they stand firm on their positoin, even if they are wrong. and its kinda sad to see people who get bullied around as kids growing up to be cops, a good friend of mine is a prision guard, and he says more than half of the new trainee's are just people with power issues. They are usually the first to spot something wrong, and the last to cover your back when you need them.

[Unproracer]

My uncle shot a deer legally in a park, it ran to a fence line where he took his 2nd shot and killed it, ranger hit him up for hunting on private property, took his rifle, his deer, and ticketed him. Later, after paying a lawyer and legal fees, they find out the fence line was just a fence line, it was all the same property though. He got a letter from the state saying they were dropping the charges. He never got his rifle back or was reimbursed for his deer, rifle, legal fees or time... I wasn't about to bicker to a ranger about it. Even if i was right, id probably still never see the bike again.

I've calmed down a bit but its still all BS. He ticketed competition motards, that were purchased off the showroom floor to be race only bikes, never registered. He told me he could take my bike on the grounds i was transporting it w/o papers...

REGARDLESS of if its OHV state park property, they can enforce stuff on a MX track, but KARTS DON'T HAVE REGISTRATION, VIN, PLATES ETC. They dont even have spark arrests, EPA approval, or noise limitations... So how can you tell me i cant ride a competition motorcycle on the same track, unregistatarable* 2 stroke, karts are TRANSPORTED AND DRIVEN ON the same track im not allowed to go to w/o a VIN, or even for that matter, how is it illegal to transport private property in the back of my truck w/o papers, when karts are the same, and DO NOT have papers..

I understand the SPIRIT of the laws, These ass hats are using the Literal translation of the law to harass undeserving people. And like nutty says, overstepping there bounds let alone making a bad image for themselves.

Well i tried to keep it all legal, and comply with the state, never touch city streets or hyws... but @#% that now, they wanna deceive me and screw me over for being law abiding......time to deceive and screw them over in the same way.

[Doctor.Dro]

the enormously long d!ck of the law is always trying to fook us over, it will never be a fair system until the police are robots with no feelings, egos, or opinions, it is either against the law or not..... no gray area.

[Unproracer]

the enormously long d!ck of the law is always trying to fook us over, it will never be a fair system until the police are robots with no feelings, egos, or opinions, it is either against the law or not..... no gray area.

You know given my perpensity to bend the rules a bit, id say MOST law enforcement guys are awsome. For the amount of @#% they deal w/ all day, the amount of power they wield, and the amount of @#% they COULD give you, most are pretty cool about it all. Ive had many tell me they wouldn't of bothered me IF someone else hadn't complained. A lot of them do a job id hate to do, w/o an ego or chip on there shoulder. Props for that law enforcement. Its the guys who DO have some kinda highschool bully complex, or ride around w/ chips on there shoulders and then express their bad mood via tickets and harrassment that piss me off. And the state/feds rather save face then admit wrong doing and retain the respect of the person getting ****ed over. There are bad poeple out there, who the cops keep us safe from. But there are also bad law enforcement out there, who stir up @#$^ when everything is quiet and peacefull...and big goverment stands behind both, thats the true shame.

Anyone remeber/ever heard of LAPD's CRASH unit?? yea....

[The Nutty Professor]

Doc I almost agree with you about the robot deal but it's never black and white. Example: You just worked on your car and you want to take a short test around the block. You get stopped. Ah crap I left my drivers license at home on the kitchen table. Officer I-Have-Some-Sense ask you for it and you tell him what's up. He can see you've got dirt and grease all over you so it's probably true. Ok dude have a nice day. Or Officer Robot sir you are under arrest for driving without a license. But officer I live right there as you point two driveways up the road. He can see the tools in the drive and the jack stands. Doesn't matter sir it's illegal.

Believe it or not I know a few butt munch cops like that.

Pro the transporting without papers sounds like the same law we have here but it applies to dealers "ONLY". He can tug butt hairs all he wants it's not easy to misread. It's obvious they mean dealers. One thing you guys might be over looking is the fact the Kart guy don't want 2-wheels there at all. It won't be the first time. Using a buddy who had a badge isn't new either. I hate going about things this way because I end up on the receiving end and I don't abuse the law even a little, but (There's always a but) you should have gotten his name and found out where he worked or what precinct he was out of. Then called and asked for clarification on the law. You might find a helping hand or another prick but it's worth the try. If the officer gives you conflicting info that's when you use the officers name and lay the story out. Explain it like this....look I don't want to complain but this guy is obviously misreading the law and costing a bunch of people a lot of money. If this situation continues then I will have to make a formal complaint otherwise I'll let it go. If I was wrong I was wrong and it appears I and a bunch of other people were right. Now can I expect someone will set this guy straight and we can all continue having a good time in life or not?

That way you put the shoe on their foot to straighten out one of their own. If they don't...lay the boom on them. They end up paying out more than they bargained for because they couldn't pull a nazi in line. Can you tell I like that word when it comes to heavy handed LEO's!

[cutlasskel]

Doc I almost agree with you about the robot deal but it's never black and white. Example: You just worked on your car and you want to take a short test around the block. You get stopped. Ah crap I left my drivers license at home on the kitchen table. Officer I-Have-Some-Sense ask you for it and you tell him what's up. He can see you've got dirt and grease all over you so it's probably true. Ok dude have a nice day. Or Officer Robot sir you are under arrest for driving without a license. But officer I live right there as you point two driveways up the road. He can see the tools in the drive and the jack stands. Doesn't matter sir it's illegal.

Believe it or not I know a few butt munch cops like that.

Pro the transporting without papers sounds like the same law we have here but it applies to dealers "ONLY". He can tug butt hairs all he wants it's not easy to misread. It's obvious they mean dealers. One thing you guys might be over looking is the fact the Kart guy don't want 2-wheels there at all. It won't be the first time. Using a buddy who had a badge isn't new either.

BINGO! It happened here, under the guise that pb's were too loud for the noise ordinance in the immediate area. Now since we knew damn well that a 50cc 2T pb full muffler engine was no where near as loud as a 100cc 2T engine....one of the pb guys brought a Db meter to measure the levels.

We called BS, and he called the Sheriff. Now we have lost the chance to ride on a goddam awesome track for who knows how long.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

thats why i call their bluff to write tickets, thats what they want to do anyway
so take the fight to a court where you actually (lol) have a chance
i try to be nice and explain the law to them that applies to me but some cops just dont wanna be wrong, my friend had a female cop harass him about his 49cc, even tho 3-4 other male cops came on the scene and agreed my friend was legal, she refused to hear it till they just kinda said f it and left my friend with the psycho woman, he had to get a pickup to get home
my advice, print out what you can find that applies to you in state or local code
i printed the moped code as an example, i carry it with the ped so if its ever stopped, i have evidence right there that its legal

[Unproracer]

Appreciate it all guys, but its not my deal to blow up. Someone else hosts the event, and he does all he can for us im sure. Blowing up this whole deal would possibly ruin everyone's chance to continue to use this track for our races/track days. Besides F'em. I will plate it, and they wont have nothing to say next time i go though the gate.

[The Nutty Professor]

thats why i call their bluff to write tickets, thats what they want to do anyway
so take the fight to a court where you actually (lol) have a chance
i try to be nice and explain the law to them that applies to me but some cops just dont wanna be wrong, my friend had a female cop harass him about his 49cc, even tho 3-4 other male cops came on the scene and agreed my friend was legal, she refused to hear it till they just kinda said f it and left my friend with the psycho woman, he had to get a pickup to get home
my advice, print out what you can find that applies to you in state or local code
i printed the moped code as an example, i carry it with the ped so if its ever stopped, i have evidence right there that its legal

I feel ya Pro it is a pain in the butt to fight The Man. Eventhough I'm part of the system that doesn't mean I agree with all of it.

Blitz that's why I like being a supervisor now. I can't stop someone from applying the law legally. If they have the legal right to do something I can not legal order them not too. But in the case of the bike being legal and her wanting to cite him anyway is a different story. I could and would have ordered her to let him go that's part of my job. I'm also so hands off when I "make a suggestion" they always comply because it's so rare. I know we've jacked the hell out of this thread or maybe not it's part of Pro's build story hahaha soldier on Brah and let's see what falls out. This is long term is every way.

[Unproracer]

Take that state authority!

I just finished the wiring harness tonight. The system attaches w/ 4 bolts 2 electrical connectors. Race ready in minutes. Waiting on a voltage regulator. Then i take to the streets and terrorize my neighborhood and super twisty back roads and beyond...

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

looks ok, now they will just sit in the pits and write tickets

[Unproracer]

looks ok, now they will just sit in the pits and write tickets

a plate in California gets you into all the OHV parks.

[The Nutty Professor]

bluelaugh race with the plate on and stick your tongue out as you go by him moon1

[Unproracer]

Bah, ive been unmotivated to mid-moto lately since my last track day failed. But thanks to the AMA youth road racing program, my buddies and I are racing this season. Everyone is on a damn dirt bike. I even bought one... i know i know... sorry. I still brought my xbike as a backup, but turns out there was a class for it! A very small class... Hopefully the rest of the season has more competitors in this class.. Now that i have my rear suspension sprung properly, it should be fun running down some NSRs... at least the ones that aren't piloted by 7 yrs old riding/veteran kids that weigh 60lbs in full gear..

[MotorHeadMike]

wow she looks badass and street legal! Love what you did on this bike and especially that rear suspension setup. Gives me lots to mull over in my mind. You make some great creations and were more than a huge inspiration to my mid modding. (I basically copied your last bikes frame design, with some added tubing for style!)

anyways thanks for all the info. Looks like you can really lean this one down.

I found this stupid video looking for that dirtbike jumping the cop video that someone was talking about a few posts back. Thought it was worth sharing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRp3Roz6grk&feature=related

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well now i know how to get my mid to the next race bluelaugh

[Unproracer]

wow she looks badass and street legal! Love what you did on this bike and especially that rear suspension setup. Gives me lots to mull over in my mind. You make some great creations and were more than a huge inspiration to my mid modding. (I basically copied your last bikes frame design, with some added tubing for style!)

anyways thanks for all the info. Looks like you can really lean this one down.

I found this stupid video looking for that dirtbike jumping the cop video that someone was talking about a few posts back. Thought it was worth sharing.



Oh man, that vid was too funny.

Ill take the rest as a compliment, thanks man! I had a series of Sears point/Infineon track days(rain outs) so i resprung the rear with a 400lbs spring, this race was first outting and OMG its sure footed now. I couldnt believe how good it felt, top of 4th, good lean angle, firm grip on the track. With a cheap china adj. shock and proper leverage/mounting position. good luck on your build, hope it works out well.

I had a onboard camera but it failed to save the file properly(dont buy orgeon scientific cams), my buddies such a towel he forgot to bring his gopro. Next time, i think there is a race every mo, so ill try to bring some good track footage.