B1 Immortal Custom Build

[relaxednoma]

Well, after hitting a few forums, I came accross this one. Got a warm welcome from shooter and the nutty professor. Sooooo, here's some background. After asking questions on another forum(s). The bike I have as I've come to know is a B1 Immortal 4 spd manual bike. The condition you see is the condition I got it in. No fairings, rear wheel fubar'd, needs a front tire, needs a chain. The rear foot pegs are welded...yes welded to the swingarm. I'd like to get a new swingarm, make one, or most cost effective (ha, whats that term) cut them off and put the real deal on there.

Shooter brought a great idea to me, something that I'm researching on midbikes and fullsize as well, as I'm not versed in that end of the bike realm. street fighter style. A couple pictures later, I'm hooked. I'm finding it hard to find fairings for this bike, so most everything will be from a different bike, or custom made. Fine by me lol. I build 1:1 trucks for myself and friends (see pics of my truck below)

the bike as I got it:

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/22/l_eaaaa0b9453c4f7e88d26ed421d9e817.jpg
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/7/l_71735d574ab545d9a496ab4a61148b91.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/34/l_5466b4c9dae040eeb38c31006812c00e.jpg

Here's the rear wheel I got from ebay. from an x15:
http://i20.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/fc/ea/8d85_1_sbl.JPG
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/fc/ea/8c17_1_sbl.JPG

Obviously will need help with a rear braking system. I plan on polishing the heck out of the wheel.

I'm a huge fan of billet...anything. Not overly done. But I want a good looking bike in the end. Some billet hear and there (grips and levers are what I've found so far).

I dig the street fighter style. love how shooters frame and swingarm looked 1st go-around in his thread. Might do something similar. Planning on blowing the bike apart to get the frame ready for paint, polish as much as I can. The plus side is the bike fires on the first kick (no electric start, but the button is there and so is the wiring haha). Also idles great!

and here's my truck:
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/53/l_b905579629e242b8a360d1d0aacd7cf4.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/53/l_b9bd7f28313d457bad9f1dad338fed32.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/52/l_3a3e3492121147f89f64fef7560e67fe.jpg

I'm going to not only ride the heck out of this bike, but strap it into the bed of the sonoma and take it to shows to ride around. :)

[Supercharged]

lets strip her down and clean that frame!

[125ccCrazy]

thats a good looking truck, you captured the look just right without over doing it, nice, clean and simple... Very nicely done...thumbsup2

I'd do the bike to match the truck, same colors and flames....

you may get away with doing an x7 body on that frame, of course you'll have to make all the mounts and weld them on...an x12 body may be a close fit too.... either one should go on without too much hassle...

I have a new x1 wheel and tire that will fit the front if you don't go with an x15 frt wheel...

Personally I'd get a matching x15 frt wheel, I never cared for those bikes with the mismatched wheels, looked like someone just threw them together with spare parts...

Putting a rear disc and caliper on it will be easy, you can get complete hyd brake kits off ebay for around $60....

[Niusiic[latvia]]

I think fork looks bad! Maybe need new?

[Supercharged]

theyll be fine with some TLC

[Shooter]

Beautiful work with the truckthumbsup2
I can only imagine what kind of VooDoo you could do to a Mid!
We like show & tell.......... so keep the pictures coming as you keep making progress. rock2

[Supercharged]

even seemingly pictures are priceless

[relaxednoma]

lets strip her down and clean that frame!
Heck ya, thats this weekend (well saturday's) project. of course pictures will be taken!

thats a good looking truck, you captured the look just right without over doing it, nice, clean and simple... Very nicely done...thumbsup2

I'd do the bike to match the truck, same colors and flames....

you may get away with doing an x7 body on that frame, of course you'll have to make all the mounts and weld them on...an x12 body may be a close fit too.... either one should go on without too much hassle...

I have a new x1 wheel and tire that will fit the front if you don't go with an x15 frt wheel...

Personally I'd get a matching x15 frt wheel, I never cared for those bikes with the mismatched wheels, looked like someone just threw them together with spare parts...

Putting a rear disc and caliper on it will be easy, you can get complete hyd brake kits off ebay for around $60....

Thanks for the compliments on the sonoma. I appreciate it. Ya, even though it being more subtle has probably kept it from getting a paper magazine feature, thats ok by me. As I've told a lot local guys that get fed up building stuff and dont get featured, I go by the "build it for yourself and no one else" motto.

I'm with you on the X15 front wheel, I think that would certainly look the best. This would fit correctly? I'm assuming so though. I'm searching ebay for the rear hyd. kit now. :D

;25328']I think fork looks bad! Maybe need new?
:( rut oh lol. I know it needs bearings up top.

theyll be fine with some TLC
take apart, clean?

[Supercharged]

nah, break cleaner to clean the gunk off.....if you want to you could paint them, they would like awesome

[relaxednoma]

Beautiful work with the truckthumbsup2
I can only imagine what kind of VooDoo you could do to a Mid!
We like show & tell.......... so keep the pictures coming as you keep making progress. rock2
Thanks! I appreciate it. lol. ya, thats what my buddy andrew who gave me the bike said. He said "I'm mostly giving it to you because your a nut and cant leave anything alone" hahah.

Oh lots of show and tell. I have my camera here with me at work, it's now with my stuff I take home every evening so it's at the house with the bike lol


even seemingly pictures are priceless
ya, the guys on S10Forum love pictures. when I did my winter project (new wheels, and interior paint/billet/chrome) they wanted pics before I got the parts in hahah. I have an album on my myspace as well as photobucket that I'll constantly update with all progress so I can post it on here asap.

[relaxednoma]

nah, break cleaner to clean the gunk off.....if you want to you could paint them, they would like awesome

Ahhhh gotcha. Ya, brake cleaner and some degreaser and lots of elbow grease and sanding/polishing will commence. I'm taking one section at a time.


Any suggestions on the peg/swing arm status for the rear?? I wonder if an x15 swingarm would fit?

[Supercharged]

deminsions?

make your own?

[Supercharged]

or just reweld the one you have on there, brace it up and beef it up.

hope ya got some tools layin around for these bikes

[relaxednoma]

or just reweld the one you have on there, brace it up and beef it up.

hope ya got some tools layin around for these bikes


Ya, I'm thinking of working with what I have now, beefing it up. I do have access to basically any tool/machine I want or need between my friends fathers welding/metal fab shop. I have a good amount of tools myself, need to do some basic organizing of them before the weekend. we (fiancee and I) just moved into our house. the bike was a "house warming gift" haha

I also pondered the idea of making my own tank/tail piece out of metal. Doing it the old school way, english wheel style and such. SinCity choppers is a local chopper place to me, i help them every year at our version of World of Wheels at the Cincy Convention Center (now called Duke Energy Center) in Cincinnati. Might stroll over there after work and see what they'll let me fiddle with.

[rene13]

You said you like the streetfight look, now I am also buiding one very slowly. I mean very very slowly. here is some of the stuff you will need.

[125ccCrazy]

if you want to do a foot brake you could use this set up http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-PIT-DIRT-BIKE-COMPLETE-FRONT-REAR-BRAKES-C_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39Q3a1Q7 c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0 Q2em14QQhashZitem350107017873QQitemZ350107017873

[relaxednoma]

You said you like the streetfight look, now I am also buiding one very slowly. I mean very very slowly. here is some of the stuff you will need.

that is absolutely wicked! I'm searching for this now lol

if you want to do a foot brake you could use this set up http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-PIT-DIRT-BIKE-COMPLETE-FRONT-REAR-BRAKES-C_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39Q3a1Q7 c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0 Q2em14QQhashZitem350107017873QQitemZ350107017873

I like the idea of the footbrake honestly!

[125ccCrazy]

here is half of an X7 body kit cheap http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-RED-FAIRINGS-KIT-For-Super-Pocket-Bike_W0QQitemZ200256812007QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 200256812007&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C 240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

frt fairing w/ lights http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pocket-Bike-Cat-eye-X7-Front-Fairing_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39 Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp328 6Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem250305434706QQitemZ25030543 4706

[relaxednoma]

Oh dang, man, i love ebay!

so would an X18 wheel work?

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-70254598815417_2023_6284525

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-70254598815417_2023_6284525

the stock size is a 9 on my bike, got that much. I have a x15 rear on it's way from ebay.

[Supercharged]

yeah those are the 6 spokers thatgo on the x18, x15, and x22 no?

[relaxednoma]

Ohhh ok. I ran accross it. Some of the interchangable stuff is starting to click. Seems like the X series is pretty popular lol

[125ccCrazy]

Oh dang, man, i love ebay!

so would an X18 wheel work?

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-70254598815417_2023_6284525

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-70254598815417_2023_6284525

the stock size is a 9 on my bike, got that much. I have a x15 rear on it's way from ebay.


yep that should work, just have to make new spacers and you may have to shim out the caliper to match up to the rotor.....

Heck I put 10" x6 wheels on my son's cateye with a 125cc 4 stroke so building that Immortal will be a piece of cake...

[swheels]

There's a shop in my area that has a few of them brandnew.But they don't sell parts for them.Then to make matters worst there old bikes That they know they can't get the parts for and still want to sell them for brandnew prices.

I've always wanted one before they were availible in this country.I almost got 2 really cheap.The i was hooked up with company took to long to give me the shipping info so i told them to forget it.They were starting to be imported into the U.S. all ready. I was eager to get my hands on them first.The first ones were 70cc 4 strokes.

[relaxednoma]

yep that should work, just have to make new spacers and you may have to shim out the caliper to match up to the rotor.....

Heck I put 10" x6 wheels on my son's cateye with a 125cc 4 stroke so building that Immortal will be a piece of cake...

Oh wow. thats awesome. I'm gonna hunt to see if I can find a bargain like I did for the rear wheel, if not I'll buy it from x18parts.com I guess?


There's a shop in my area that has a few of them brandnew.But they don't sell parts for them.Then to make matters worst there old bikes That they know they can't get the parts for and still want to sell them for brandnew prices.

I've always wanted one before they were availible in this country.I almost got 2 really cheap.The i was hooked up with company took to long to give me the shipping info so i told them to forget it.They were starting to be imported into the U.S. all ready. I was eager to get my hands on them first.The first ones were 70cc 4 strokes.

dangit, I'd like to tell them to sell me some parts hahaha

So they came in 70cc, 110cc and 125cc?

[relaxednoma]

Hmmm

http://www.pocketbikeparts.com/v/vspfiles/photos/CMBL016873-2.jpg

[The Nutty Professor]

No don't go for that. The carbon look paint scratches on most of that stuff easy. Once it does it looks like crap. Go for a anodized Pit Bike part they wear better and they are mostly better made.

[relaxednoma]

Ohhhh, noted sir!, I'm going with anodized lol

[The Nutty Professor]

Yes grasshopper learn from the mistakes of old men and you will gain great power rolleye0010 OK two days of very little sleep is catching up.

[relaxednoma]

lol. ya it sucks that parts have been bought, wasted, or a combonation, but man, this newbie sure appreciates it! lol

[relaxednoma]

well in planning the build. It will indeed be a street fighter style bike, with the tank piece being painted pewter metallic with silver flames, striped to match my real truck.

Keeping with the billet/flame/paint theme, I'm going to get these:

http://www.davesmotors.com/store/media/rr95xbilletflamegrips.jpg to use. In the polished version. Granted I'll still ride the heck out of this of course.

[stuntnx7]

well in planning the build. It will indeed be a street fighter style bike, with the tank piece being painted pewter metallic with silver flames, striped to match my real truck.

Keeping with the billet/flame/paint theme, I'm going to get these:

http://www.davesmotors.com/store/media/rr95xbilletflamegrips.jpg to use. In the polished version. Granted I'll still ride the heck out of this of course.





mytwocents on those is the silver/chrome looks the best...the others kinda look like squiggly lines

[relaxednoma]

Yessir, those with the holeshotz billet lever and polished the heck out of the front will look good I think?

[Supercharged]

Yessir, those with the holeshotz billet lever and polished the heck out of the front will look good I think?


did anyone see anything wrong with this post, if not ill shine light on the situation


if you have not heard yet noma, the word holeshotz is always a no-go wave_finger

unless you want your hard earn money stolendunno

[relaxednoma]

did anyone see anything wrong with this post, if not ill shine light on the situation


if you have not heard yet noma, the word holeshotz is always a no-go wave_finger

unless you want your hard earn money stolendunno

oh really? well thank you for the heads up, I'm crossing them off my list right now!

[Supercharged]

oh really? well thank you for the heads up, I'm crossing them off my list right now!

cowboy

[125ccCrazy]

did anyone see anything wrong with this post, if not ill shine light on the situation


if you have not heard yet noma, the word holeshotz is always a no-go wave_finger

unless you want your hard earn money stolen dunno


yeah dont wanna go there for sure...

places I trust and have delt with:

scooterpartsdepot.com
scooterparts4less.com
fancyscooters.com
tncscooters.com

Places I dont trust

holeshotz
PBU

pocketbikeparts.com?? undecided yet, still waiting for my body parts to be shipped after a week... Nutty-Rant

[Supercharged]

add hondatrailbikes to that crazy

[relaxednoma]

man, I am parts searching and loving these sites lol.

[Supercharged]

youll like this one too, but this is one that 125cc was iffy about

pocketbikesunlimited.com

go to 4 stroke peformance

[swheels]

I went to the store in my area to see if they still had the b1 immortal.YEP they still have the 2 that's been there for 4yrs.LOL So just for a good laugh i ask how much.$699.00 LMAObluelaughbluelaughbluelaughbluelaugh
I ask they lady can you get parts for these.She says yes.Then i told her you must be good cuase they stop making these bikes awhile ago and NOOOObody has parts for them.They even have the ducati monster too.Well i hope their not pricing their bikes be the weight.Cuase if they are then the next time they weight the bikes the price will go up probably another $100 because of all the dust that's on them.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

noma, sup man
great that you got in dropjaw, ive been to big show and freak show, both were good times
they dig bikes there too, ive been wanting to drag mine at the big show in rockingham, and just show it too
my brother-in-law has a very clean s10 on dubs
you can see it for a sec here YouTube - 146cc/big valve head - X15
ya welcome from me too

[relaxednoma]

youll like this one too, but this is one that 125cc was iffy about

pocketbikesunlimited.com

go to 4 stroke peformance

Hmmm, going to check this one out right now

I went to the store in my area to see if they still had the b1 immortal.YEP they still have the 2 that's been there for 4yrs.LOL So just for a good laugh i ask how much.$699.00 LMAObluelaughbluelaughbluelaughbluelaugh
I ask they lady can you get parts for these.She says yes.Then i told her you must be good cuase they stop making these bikes awhile ago and NOOOObody has parts for them.They even have the ducati monster too.Well i hope their not pricing their bikes be the weight.Cuase if they are then the next time they weight the bikes the price will go up probably another $100 because of all the dust that's on them.

HAHAHAHA, if they werent that pricey I'd almost snatch one up for the heck of it haha

noma, sup man
great that you got in dropjaw, ive been to big show and freak show, both were good times
they dig bikes there too, ive been wanting to drag mine at the big show in rockingham, and just show it too
my brother-in-law has a very clean s10 on dubs
you can see it for a sec here YouTube - 146cc/big valve head - X15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_kC1HErPrY)
ya welcome from me too

Thanks bro, man you've hit 2 shows I want to go to pretty bad lol. I'm looking foward to riding around on mine at shows next year lol. your bro-in-law's s10 is damn clean. although I still enjoyed the rest of the video as much as the truck lol


Oh and my buddy and his cousin, that are getting the x18's, ya, they ordered them from holeshotz! I told him about the opinion of that company, he's going to get his money back today or something and order it from somewhere else!

[125ccCrazy]

Oh and my buddy and his cousin, that are getting the x18's, ya, they ordered them from holeshotz! I told him about the opinion of that company, he's going to get his money back today or something and order it from somewhere else!


Thats not a company, it's a kid drop shipping stuff from his parents basement.......... best of luck to them!!! , if would have done a search on PBP they would have seen how many people got screwed.....Nutty-Rant

[relaxednoma]

Oh holy crap. I'm going to update him on this right now. I told him about the forum, so he should join soon. :D

[125ccCrazy]

Oh holy crap. I'm going to update him on this right now. I told him about the forum, so he should join soon. :D


yeah I'd suggest cancelling that CC order asap and look for a reputable seller..

I'd also suggest an X15 (GS57) over the x18, thats just MO...

[relaxednoma]

yeah I'd suggest cancelling that CC order asap and look for a reputable seller..

I'd also suggest an X15 (GS57) over the x18, thats just MO...

Oh? why so? I'll tell him that.

He paid through paypal

[125ccCrazy]

Oh? why so? I'll tell him that.

He paid through paypal


rut row, maybe PP will cancel it, I dunno

The x18 bodys are really brittle, break real easy among other things... I just think the x15 is a better bike, I know others will disagree but thats just mo...

The x15 has a better looking body also, looks more to scale to the frame...

[The Nutty Professor]

I think X18 frame and workings with a X15 body and you can't go wrong. If they'd just mad it that way to being with twocents

[relaxednoma]

rut row, maybe PP will cancel it, I dunno

The x18 bodys are really brittle, break real easy among other things... I just think the x15 is a better bike, I know others will disagree but thats just mo...

The x15 has a better looking body also, looks more to scale to the frame...

Hopefully, I'm waiting on a reply from my buddy.
I agree with the X15 comment

I think X18 frame and workings with a X15 body and you can't go wrong. If they'd just mad it that way to being with twocents

lol, I agree!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

no the 18 frame is crap too
i have both and my 15 was better broke down than my 18 was running
when i get my next bike it will be legal so im gonna get the 19 just cause its as close as i can get to the 15

[relaxednoma]

X15 wheel and tire is on, no chain though. Pics coming soon.

[Supercharged]

does your sprockets line up???

[relaxednoma]

does your sprockets line up???

yessir, they sure do.

[125ccCrazy]

X15 wheel and tire is on, no chain though. Pics coming soon.

That bike is gonna look so much better with those wheels, I never did understand why they threw a chopper wheel on the rear and an x1 wheel on the front?? Looked like they just put it together with extra parts..... They are good looking bikes other than the mismatched wheels....

Definatley gotta update pics as you go, this is gonna be a good looking unit when it's done...thumbsup2

[relaxednoma]

That bike is gonna look so much better with those wheels, I never did understand why they threw a chopper wheel on the rear and an x1 wheel on the front?? Looked like they just put it together with extra parts..... They are good looking bikes other than the mismatched wheels....

Definatley gotta update pics as you go, this is gonna be a good looking unit when it's done...thumbsup2

lol. I know right? Thanks for getting me setup with a helluva deal bro! damann33 came through with a smokin' deal on the front wheel and tire for me and is gonna ship it today or or wednesday. We dont have the 'net at my house setup yet, our cable company made me very angry, enough that I called and b*#ched and got a free dual DVR box hahah.

I am gonna take my laptop home tonight though and plug in my memory card from my camera and see if I can get a decent enough signal from the neighbors wireless to upload my pics I took with the X15 wheel on the rear.

[relaxednoma]

Alright, taking pics off camera of what I promised previously.

I now have a matching front wheel/tire coming as well as a tank cover and tail section from an X15 thanks to damann33. Thanks to 125 for letting damann33 know I needed the front setup as well!

Also getting a 420 chain w/masterlink from ashar014 for $10 shipped.

so once i get the chain, I'll be able to take it for a test ride. I'm going to get the tail section mocked, secured and on the frame, put the chain on and take it for a trial run, feel the bike out, then it's teardown time!

[relaxednoma]

Well gang, andrew (low4door) was over last night giving me a hand doing brakes on my 03 Sierra xcab daily driver and we pulled the plastics out and the "new" front wheel from damann33. Plastics are workable, front wheel is bent, did not know this.... heres some mock up.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/63/l_cea115e7baef45948669103eee443e1b.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/33/l_11341f3bb01e46a8944f1e002d6833b3.jpg

bent wheel....
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/55/l_255333c317204eb8974c745001164192.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/3/l_9068b8937e4f4d6f8b99bf13f73abf93.jpg

So I guess I'll find me a new wheel and utilize the disc and tire from this one.

Looking like sunday it'll get torn down and started on finally!

[125ccCrazy]

Well gang, andrew (low4door) was over last night giving me a hand doing brakes on my 03 Sierra xcab daily driver and we pulled the plastics out and the "new" front wheel from damann33. Plastics are workable, front wheel is bent, did not know this.... heres some mock up.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/63/l_cea115e7baef45948669103eee443e1b.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/33/l_11341f3bb01e46a8944f1e002d6833b3.jpg

bent wheel....
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/55/l_255333c317204eb8974c745001164192.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/3/l_9068b8937e4f4d6f8b99bf13f73abf93.jpg

So I guess I'll find me a new wheel and utilize the disc and tire from this one.

Looking like sunday it'll get torn down and started on finally!


Man that frigen blows, I wish I'd never referred you to damann boxing11, I'd put a complaint with paypal and try to get your money back.... Wonder whoever got the forks ended up with bent forks?...Poke12


I'll look around and see what I can find for ya, if I can locate a wheel I'll make dang sure it's good... that frigen irratates me to no end, feel like it put my rep in the toilet for recommending him...Too bad he is in canada.


Well getting back to the bike, is that the stock shifter?? I'd look for a long pitbike shifter and flip it around backwards...

[relaxednoma]

Man that frigen blows, I wish I'd never referred you to damann boxing11, I'd put a complaint with paypal and try to get your money back.... Wonder whoever got the forks ended up with bent forks?...Poke12


I'll look around and see what I can find for ya, if I can locate a wheel I'll make dang sure it's good... that frigen irratates me to no end, feel like it put my rep in the toilet for recommending him...Too bad he is in canada.


Well getting back to the bike, is that the stock shifter?? I'd look for a long pitbike shifter and flip it around backwards...

Shoot it's quite alright bro. I prolly should have asked for a picture to see the condition of it moreso before I laid down the cash money for it. I'm going to PM him and email him to see if we can do something about it. Your rep/opinion always and has been one of them that I listen to the most. :D I shoulda opened it up when i got it in, but had so much going on with house and truck stuff (new tires and brakes haha)

I believe it to be the stock shifter, I def. think I'm going to do that.

[The Nutty Professor]

Ouch! Curbage hit on that rim. He had to know. Anyway damn good start. I'm not diggin' those footpegs. Ride to long and you'd have some serious leg pump.

[125ccCrazy]

Shoot it's quite alright bro. I prolly should have asked for a picture to see the condition of it moreso before I laid down the cash money for it. I'm going to PM him and email him to see if we can do something about it. Your rep/opinion always and has been one of them that I listen to the most. :D I shoulda opened it up when i got it in, but had so much going on with house and truck stuff (new tires and brakes haha)

I believe it to be the stock shifter, I def. think I'm going to do that.

I appreciate that.... Still irratates me that he would send you a pos like that well knowing the wheel is junk...

I just emailed a guy that I bought a bunch of parts from before to see if he has any wheels... Hopefully he has a good wheel...

[relaxednoma]

Ouch! Curbage hit on that rim. He had to know. Anyway damn good start. I'm not diggin' those footpegs. Ride to long and you'd have some serious leg pump.
Ya, thats what andrew and I both said last night when we checked it out. Thanks though! ya, I'm gonna do something about new footpegs and or a new swingarm all together.


I appreciate that.... Still irratates me that he would send you a pos like that well knowing the wheel is junk...

I just emailed a guy that I bought a bunch of parts from before to see if he has any wheels... Hopefully he has a good wheel...

no problemo. :D Ya, thats pretty lame of him..

Sweet! I really appreciate it man!

[Shooter]

Welcome to the Sucker Club moon1
I screwed myself too with a sprocket I bought, although I requested pictures I didn't get any and went through with the purchase anyway. The seller didn't know how to count (teeth) and I bought by being misled and being told and thinking it was something else. I'm stuck with it now as it turned out to be a pity purchase banghead.
Some of us learn from the school of hard knocks I guess.
I know we'll know better next time to get lots of pics and maybe some history before we fork over our hard earned money and take it between the cheeks moon1
It's too bad people gotta be this way.

[relaxednoma]

Welcome to the Sucker Club moon1
I screwed myself too with a sprocket I bought, although I requested pictures I didn't get any and went through with the purchase anyway. The seller didn't know how to count (teeth) and I bought by being misled and being told and thinking it was something else. I'm stuck with it now as it turned out to be a pity purchase banghead.
Some of us learn from the school of hard knocks I guess.
I know we'll know better next time to get lots of pics and maybe some history before we fork over our hard earned money and take it between the cheeks moon1
It's too bad people gotta be this way.

Oh ya, I remember that with the sprocket. I was in chat when you got it and announced it. that sucked like hell.

Ya, another lesson learned...

[Niusiic[latvia]]

looks sweet!hangloose

[low4door]

anyone know if we could possibly use a swing arm off a x18,19 on that thing?

[125ccCrazy]

anyone know if we could possibly use a swing arm off a x18,19 on that thing?


prob not a direct fit but with some modding I'm sure you can.. I'd suggest an x19, the x18 are pretty cheesy with the end cut out like it is for the axle, pretty weak in that area where the x19 isn't open on the end and is more solid... Just my twocents

[swheels]

prob not a direct fit but with some modding I'm sure you can.. I'd suggest an x19, the x18 are pretty cheesy with the end cut out like it is for the axle, pretty weak in that area where the x19 isn't open on the end and is more solid... Just my twocentsThe x18 swingarm is pretty much the same design as the one on your drag bike. I think the x18 will take alot more punishment out of all the swingers on a midbike. It's the x19/15's that are questionable.dunno

Either way i think any of them will work with some modding.

[low4door]

The x18 swingarm is pretty much the same design as the one on your drag bike. I think the x18 will take alot more punishment out of all the swingers on a midbike. It's the x19/15's that are questionable.dunno

Either way i think any of them will work with some modding.

how much modding do u think cause we r kinda limited with the tools we havebanghead

[125ccCrazy]

The x18 swingarm is pretty much the same design as the one on your drag bike. I think the x18 will take alot more punishment out of all the swingers on a midbike. It's the x19/15's that are questionable.dunno

Either way i think any of them will work with some modding.

S your right, I was thinking of my x12 swingarm, it's closed on the end and not slotted all the way....I was seeing it in my head but I put the wrong X bike with it LOL...

All the x18 swingers I've seen the slot on the end looked all crushed and twisted from being cut to the end....

Your also correct on the x15 and x19 swingers, they all crack near the shock mount, my x19 was cracked plus the shock mount is welded in crooked from the factory... I was gonna cut it out and weld it in straight but I couldnt get to the welds inside the side rails to cut them so I just ground the crack out, welded it back up and threw a little more weld from the rail to the shock bracket, hopefully it holds up...

how much modding do u think cause we r kinda limited with the tools we havebanghead


depending on how wide the pivot tube is on each bike the tube on the x18 or x12 swinger may either need to be cut down or more than likely cut out and a wider tube welded in.. The other thing will be the shock mount location...Those will be the two major mods to make it work, not a big deal though...

[swheels]

S your right, I was thinking of my x12 swingarm, it's closed on the end and not slotted all the way....I was seeing it in my head but I put the wrong X bike with it LOL...

All the x18 swingers I've seen the slot on the end looked all crushed and twisted from being cut to the end....

Your also correct on the x15 and x19 swingers, they all crack near the shock mount, my x19 was cracked plus the shock mount is welded in crooked from the factory... I was gonna cut it out and weld it in straight but I couldnt get to the welds inside the side rails to cut them so I just ground the crack out, welded it back up and threw a little more weld from the rail to the shock bracket, hopefully it holds up...




depending on how wide the pivot tube is on each bike the tube on the x18 or x12 swinger may either need to be cut down or more than likely cut out and a wider tube welded in.. The other thing will be the shock mount location...Those will be the two major mods to make it work, not a big deal though...Hey it's cool 125cc.I'm pretty sure your brain is running in overdrive.LOL modding 2 different bikes at the sametime.I couldn't dream of doing it.And believe me this is the truth.

If your able to take a pic of the swingarm pivot area.This would help.But i'm williing to bet your swinger has a solid tube design.Which would make it perfect to adapt the x18 swinger.I suggest the x18 swinger because its a solid tube vs the newer x19/x15 which has a left and right 3'' to 4'' tube on each side not solid.I'll post a pic in a few.

Let the record show that i do think the x15/19's have the best looking swingarm.And i will be putting one on my bike after i feinforce it and honeycomb it.

[low4door]

S your right, I was thinking of my x12 swingarm, it's closed on the end and not slotted all the way....I was seeing it in my head but I put the wrong X bike with it LOL...

All the x18 swingers I've seen the slot on the end looked all crushed and twisted from being cut to the end....

Your also correct on the x15 and x19 swingers, they all crack near the shock mount, my x19 was cracked plus the shock mount is welded in crooked from the factory... I was gonna cut it out and weld it in straight but I couldnt get to the welds inside the side rails to cut them so I just ground the crack out, welded it back up and threw a little more weld from the rail to the shock bracket, hopefully it holds up...




depending on how wide the pivot tube is on each bike the tube on the x18 or x12 swinger may either need to be cut down or more than likely cut out and a wider tube welded in.. The other thing will be the shock mount location...Those will be the two major mods to make it work, not a big deal though...

would we b able to cut the one off the stock swinger and weld it on the new x18 to make it work?

[swheels]

how much modding do u think cause we r kinda limited with the tools we havebangheadI think it will be just a matter of spacers it using the x18 swinger.I'll post pics tommorrow of each swingarm side by side.

[low4door]

would we b able to cut the one off the stock swinger and weld it on the new x18 to make it work?

[125ccCrazy]

here is abrand new wheel/tire fairly cheap http://www.x18parts.com/px19frwhco.html

[relaxednoma]

^ purchasing!

[125ccCrazy]

^ purchasing!

LOL, you know this will be good...... Wish I'd sent ya here in the 1st place but I was trying to save ya a few bucks, I screwed that all up....thumb_down

[low4door]

thanks 125

[x18]

That rim is definetly bent you should try getting your money back through paypal someone would have to be pretty dumb to sell that and not notice it, either that or he thought he could make some money selling junk.

[125ccCrazy]

thanks 125
No problem, just wish I'd sent him there first, never dreamed he would get a POS like that...
That rim is definetly bent you should try getting your money back through paypal someone would have to be pretty dumb to sell that and not notice it, either that or he thought he could make some money selling junk.


totally agree, file a complaint, can't hurt...

[low4door]

a little off toppic but who did u get ur extended swing arm from 125 and does it make the bike ride any different?

[125ccCrazy]

a little off toppic but who did u get ur extended swing arm from 125 and does it make the bike ride any different?


From my garage LOL.... I build my own stretched swingers.... They ride good, you can definately feel the difference, not good for road course but for straight line racing and just cruising they are great...

Here is the one I built for my x12 and one that I started for my son's cat but will be going on Miguels cat instead..

[low4door]

From my garage LOL.... I build my own stretched swingers.... They ride good, you can definately feel the difference, not good for road course but for straight line racing and just cruising they are great...

Here is the one I built for my x12 and one that I started for my son's cat but will be going on Miguels cat instead..

hellz yeah son looks good..........would u b willing to build one for my x18 when i get some money together????

[125ccCrazy]

hellz yeah son looks good..........would u b willing to build one for my x18 when i get some money together????


as long as your not in a hurry at the time LOL, I'm a little slow...

You looking for a stock swinger stretched or one like I'm building from scratch??

[dna316]

as long as your not in a hurry at the time LOL, I'm a little slow...

You looking for a stock swinger stretched or one like I'm building from scratch??

lol hes being modest. 125 is totaly the man when it comes to the extended swinger. and if it takes a little while, trust me its way worth it. he does them right just look at his gallery.

[low4door]

as long as your not in a hurry at the time LOL, I'm a little slow...

You looking for a stock swinger stretched or one like I'm building from scratch??

lol i'm in no hurry at all my stock swinger is fine just got the bike a few months ago and just lookin for some little upgrades b4 i do a new motor..........i kinda want one like the second picture with the box steel think it gives it a "sharper" look if ya know what i mean. but yeah just gimme a i like the distance on ur profile pic of the white bike that would b the poo.........just lemme know a quote on the price for materials and shipping and i'll start savingrock2

[stuntnx7]

i kinda want one like the second picture with the box steel think it gives it a "sharper" look if ya know what i mean.



box steel isnt as strong so your really down grading twocents

[Dvst8r]

Where are you located at in kentucky Low4door? Iv'e been looking for someone to ride with.

[relaxednoma]

Where are you located at in kentucky Low4door? Iv'e been looking for someone to ride with.

he's about 15 min from me. His bike is in my garage, we did a few passes in my sub last night. I'll get mine ridable and put his and mine in the sierra and we'll come down.

[125ccCrazy]

box steel isnt as strong so your really down grading twocents

if thats the case why are most dirt bikes sq? For a PB these tubes are plenty strong enough, the only way they are gonna bend is jumping off a big hill or something.... For a cruiser or drag bike they will hold up plenty strong...If I thought they were unsafe you think I'd put them on my kids bikes? not a chance..

I'd put one of mine up against those POS that pbu sells any day..

[TeRRoR]

Randi probably offers some of the best swingarms out there atm. Look at all his PB's each one is his work. +++++1 for craftmanship all the way

[stuntnx7]

if thats the case why are most dirt bikes sq? For a PB these tubes are plenty strong enough, the only way they are gonna bend is jumping off a big hill or something.... For a cruiser or drag bike they will hold up plenty strong...If I thought they were unsafe you think I'd put them on my kids bikes? not a chance..

I'd put one of mine up against those POS that pbu sells any day..



im just saying square tube is not as strong as round tube which is why they make dragsters out of round tube...never was saying yours aren't good thumbsup2

[125ccCrazy]

im just saying square tube is not as strong as round tube which is why they make dragsters out of round tube...never was saying yours aren't good thumbsup2

well round tube looks better for rails LOL... Most chassis cars have boxed main frame with round tube roll cage... For a drag car or a cage yeah I'd definately want round tube, no question asked there....I wish I had a way of flattening long lengths of round tube to make teh swingers from, more like the x12, x18 style swingers.. I can flatten short sections in my Dad's antique vise to splice in a swinger but not any real length to make a one piece side rail....
The new swinger I'm starting for my son's 125 cat is gonna be 1" x 1.5" rectangular steel... started on that the other night until I got a metal fragment in my eye, had to get that removed thurs morning banghead

[dna316]

well round tube looks better for rails LOL... Most chassis cars have boxed main frame with round tube roll cage... For a drag car or a cage yeah I'd definately want round tube, no question asked there....I wish I had a way of flattening long lengths of round tube to make teh swingers from, more like the x12, x18 style swingers.. I can flatten short sections in my Dad's antique vise to splice in a swinger but not any real length to make a one piece side rail....
The new swinger I'm starting for my son's 125 cat is gonna be 1" x 1.5" rectangular steel... started on that the other night until I got a metal fragment in my eye, had to get that removed thurs morning banghead

i personaly love that square tube or rectangle stock for the swingarm, it does add a nice look.

[stuntnx7]

well round tube looks better for rails LOL... Most chassis cars have boxed main frame with round tube roll cage... For a drag car or a cage yeah I'd definately want round tube, no question asked there....I wish I had a way of flattening long lengths of round tube to make teh swingers from, more like the x12, x18 style swingers.. I can flatten short sections in my Dad's antique vise to splice in a swinger but not any real length to make a one piece side rail....
The new swinger I'm starting for my son's 125 cat is gonna be 1" x 1.5" rectangular steel... started on that the other night until I got a metal fragment in my eye, had to get that removed thurs morning banghead



wave_finger you mean older chassis cars have box steel main frame...newer cars have tubes all the way through

[125ccCrazy]

wave_finger you mean older chassis cars have box steel main frame...newer cars have tubes all the way through

I dunno, maybe the new rules are round all the way but it used to be 2x3 box, depends on class.... Pro gas used to be boxed.... I haven't been into racing for years so I spose alot has changed as far as rules apply.... Nascar still has boxed main as far as I know and they go through alot more stress and rolls in an accident...

[low4door]

lol wow well either way i would like the box steel it just does somethin 4 me lol. lemme know a price.

[low4door]

if this isn't a tread jacking i donno what is lol

[stuntnx7]

if this isn't a tread jacking i donno what is lol




not threadjacking more like sidetracking bluelaugh...its all good were still talking swingy's...just doing some debating between friends thumbsup2

[low4door]

not threadjacking more like sidetracking bluelaugh...its all good were still talking swingy's...just doing some debating between friends thumbsup2

that's a true story sir. does anyone else get kicked off the forum constantly as i do???????:confused:

[125ccCrazy]

Yeah I forgot what the main topic was, all this mess needs to be deleted from Nomas post... I apolagize Noma for taking the post off course...

[stuntnx7]

he's about 15 min from me. His bike is in my garage, we did a few passes in my sub last night. I'll get mine ridable and put his and mine in the sierra and we'll come down.




all you ky guys should come to nashville for the drag race at music city raceway....$250 on the line for 1st place in May...about 25-40 pitbikes including mids, pb's, quads, dirtbikes, go-carts, and other toys race and its always a good time...

[low4door]

Yeah I forgot what the main topic was, all this mess needs to be deleted from Nomas post... I apolagize Noma for taking the post off course...

agreed

[relaxednoma]

Yeah I forgot what the main topic was, all this mess needs to be deleted from Nomas post... I apolagize Noma for taking the post off course...
shoot it's quite alright!

all you ky guys should come to nashville for the drag race at music city raceway....$250 on the line for 1st place in May...about 25-40 pitbikes including mids, pb's, quads, dirtbikes, go-carts, and other toys race and its always a good time...
I'm down


agreed
x2

[The Nutty Professor]

It's all about the build. Yeah it slipped sideways but there's good info there so unless Relax ask we'll let it ride.

Hey dude have you thought about a red frame like the trellis frames on a Ducati? Although gold is old school, very old school, you'd have to go with retro paint colors to make it look right. Or have you talked about that already thinking_smilie ?

[relaxednoma]

It's all about the build. Yeah it slipped sideways but there's good info there so unless Relax ask we'll let it ride.

Hey dude have you thought about a red frame like the trellis frames on a Ducati? Although gold is old school, very old school, you'd have to go with retro paint colors to make it look right. Or have you talked about that already thinking_smilie ?

shoot I'm cool with it. lots of great info in here!

Hmmm, red frame would be awesome!! Although I've thought about doing it in a gunmetal grey color.

[The Nutty Professor]

I thought I answer what you asked in chat here it's easier to go back and read over if you have too. Not that my info's that good but hey moon1 Looking at the photo's a X18 front end will fit. I was also looking at your rusty tubes....ahh I mean forks lololol They look bent are they? As for the X18 forks after seeing and feeling Swheels those things can be turned into gems.

[125ccCrazy]

another nice choice for forks is the X6 4 stroke frt end, heavy duty shafts, long.... Depending on how long the B1 forks are the x12 are nice too, they are pretty HD but are shorter than the x16 and x18 forks..

For serious racing I'd go with the pit bike USD forks like you did Nutty, those look so awesome, wish I had a set for my x19 (x15) since they look really close to the 1:1 Benelli and thats the look I'm going for but for $300 or so I'll have to stick with the stock ones LOL..

[The Nutty Professor]

another nice choice for forks is the X6 4 stroke frt end, heavy duty shafts, long.... Depending on how long the B1 forks are the x12 are nice too, they are pretty HD but are shorter than the x16 and x18 forks..

For serious racing I'd go with the pit bike USD forks like you did Nutty, those look so awesome, wish I had a set for my x19 (x15) since they look really close to the 1:1 Benelli and thats the look I'm going for but for $300 or so I'll have to stick with the stock ones LOL..

Mine were $99

[125ccCrazy]

Mine were $99

from where??

[relaxednoma]

I like where this is going.

[The Nutty Professor]

Fancy Scooter of course.

[relaxednoma]

I'm totally lost as to what will work.

I'd like to do replace the forks, bars and the handle bars and such bolt to as well, sorry for the lack of terminology.

Oh and the frame will be powdercoated now. Found a local guy that will do it for me for a good price.

[125ccCrazy]

I'm totally lost as to what will work.

I'd like to do replace the forks, bars and the handle bars and such bolt to as well, sorry for the lack of terminology.

Oh and the frame will be powdercoated now. Found a local guy that will do it for me for a good price.

Forks,trees,bar clamps from an X6, x15 or x19 will work... The trees from an x18 wont work as they have bushings and wheel bearings in the neck unlike your frame that has bearing cups and bearings like bicycle....

Measure the length of your forks from the top of the tube to the center of the axle hole and I'll compare that to the various forks I have to give you some measurments for options...

[relaxednoma]

ahhh awesome. I will measure them tonight!

I'm getting excited about this project more and more. Kinda got bummed because of the wheel lol. I see he hasnt posted since....

[relaxednoma]

forks are right around 21 and 1/2 top to bottom.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i have a whole x6 front end if you want

[relaxednoma]

really? hack i know its quality if its from you! how much good sir?

[125ccCrazy]

X6 is 22.5" from top to center of axle

X19 is 22" top to center

X12 is 20.5"

[relaxednoma]

X6 is 22.5" from top to center of axle

X19 is 22" top to center

X12 is 20.5"

oh nice! that X6 would work perfectly

[125ccCrazy]

How's the build going?? any updates?

[relaxednoma]

well. I've not really done anything to it since I got the plastics and the fubard wheel. I've been working on my sonoma getting it ready for next year with some more interior paint and I'm having the flames restriped to match the nitrous bottle. since the original striping is over the clear, I'm wetsanding them off which takes forever but I dont want to burn through the clear. but mainly with the holidays and it being our first at our house, and working 60ish hours a week, time is almost n/a lol.

I'm aiming at jumping on it once the truck is completed for the local World of Wheels and the wife pops our 1st out (inducing her the 12th of jan)

[The Nutty Professor]

Congrat's brother thumbsup2 Life is going to be....uuummm different. Want some advice...OK maybe not but when has that ever shut me up hahaha This is a perfect time to find another bike. But make it a PB and paint it to match your B1. Stay with me on this one....That ones for the tike. I know it'll be a couple years before he/she's rippin' it but that just the hook. How can the wife deny you when you want the youngin' involved already. I knw I know low down and sneaky but it's one of those I should da. My daughter rides now and if I'd done that a long time ago I'd have more toys and getting stuff for them would be easier when I'm buying for the little speed demon bluelaughbluelaugh and not me wink wink. Oh last but not least at this message after you read it we can't let out this little secret.

[relaxednoma]

HAHAHA oh ya! thats a perfect idea!!!

I have an old pedal car fire truck that I need to pickup and I'm going to basically put it on the ground and sheetmetal the inside so she can sit in it at shows and we can roll her around in it hahhaa.


I'm FOR SURE getting another PB and doing just that! hahaha thats awesome!!

[relaxednoma]

Well..........time for an update.

After getting the the project rolling and semi-ridable, I lost interest in it and decided to focus on on my project truck, my sonoma. (which can be seen in my first magazine feature here: http://gaugemagazine.com/2009/October/GMCSonoma.htm)

The bike is still within walking distance, but a young fella, (15) who lives in my subdivision has always always loved it. Sooooo....I gave it to him, in exchange for some yard mowing and weed eating (working 65 hours a week here and there leaves little time to WANT to mow the yard lol). I've been giving him guidance and advice. He snagged a perfect front wheel/tire. I swapped over the disc. He got all the brake parts, and new tree and somehow managed to find a tank cover. That's all on now. The bike has been to his uncle's house (nice straight country road in front of it) in which i had the pleasure of taking my show truck down there so they could see it and I opened that 110cc up. Man that felt great. I'll get some pics shortly. I'll end up with another in the future of my own.

Family wise, wife and lil one are doing great. lil one is growing so fast, she's just over 9 months now, pulling herself up on everything to stand up and crawling like it's nobodys business. 2 of her favorite words are heeeeyyyy daaaaaaad haha.

Hope everyone is well!