(UPDATE) Rebuilding a $30 Craigslist Find.... The X19

[125ccCrazy]

Ok , sunday morn I was browsing Craigslist and came across an ad for an x19 for $30...emailed the guy and he still had it so I took a drive and picked her up.... It's rough to say the least but a pretty solid base to start on....

[x18nfs]

nice deal....if you need a new motor i got one for a good price.

[dna316]

Man I wish i could get into that to, build from the ground up. and i have seen your other projects 125, so im sure this will be no exeption. cant wait to see progress

[Supercharged]

more pictures, and also you painted that with what again?

[125ccCrazy]

nice deal....if you need a new motor i got one for a good price.

Thanks for the offer but I've got one on the way.... What were you asking for yours??

Man I wish i could get into that to, build from the ground up. and i have seen your other projects 125, so im sure this will be no exeption. cant wait to see progress

Thanks dna, it's not all that complicated, once you start in you'll learn alot and start figuring out little mods that will make it better and more unique to you..

more pictures, and also you painted that with what again?


Bro thats the way I got it, I havent even begun to paint it LOL... That mess thats on it is the way it was when I picked it up.....I wouldn't even think about making a mess like that LOL....

[125ccCrazy]

The deconstruction begins.... Gonna start reworking the swingarm, removing the slopping rubber bushings , I'll be using solid bronze bushings inside a new sleeve/spacer that will get welded into the swingarm..

[dna316]

man i cant wait to see more, you allways kill it when modding and building bikes.

[125ccCrazy]

man i cant wait to see more, you allways kill it when modding and building bikes.
This is gonna be pretty mild, just gonna do a few mods, rework some stuff so it is solid and works better, get it all cleaned up... Prob add a few goodies like an exhaust of course, maybe a hyd clutch, better brakes and rotors...

[dna316]

This is gonna be pretty mild, just gonna do a few mods, rework some stuff so it is solid and works better, get it all cleaned up... Prob add a few goodies like an exhaust of course, maybe a hyd clutch, better brakes and rotors...


still wanna see what you end up doing with it,i get so many ideas from watching you guy go to town on these bikes its awesome.thumbsup2

[Ghost Rider]

Sounds like a good clean simple build. You should do a road racing theme... I always see you make badass drag bikes but i wanna see what you can do with a road race/moto gp bike. Just simple mods would so this, slicks, dual brakes, stiffer rear shock, a badass custom exhaust and a badass paint scheme. But thats just my twocents

Goodluck with the build!!!

[125ccCrazy]

still wanna see what you end up doing with it,i get so many ideas from watching you guy go to town on these bikes its awesome.thumbsup2


Thanks for the comps and the interest in my projects, I dunno what happened to me, when I bought my kids thier first PB's about 2003 or 2004 I got hooked... I used to spend all my time on cars but just find the bikes to be more fun anymore.. I have a 1940 Chevy in the garage in pieces and just can't get the enthusiasm to do anything with it, mainly after the gas prices went sky high and now with work so unpredictable, getting layed off every few weeks I just let the car set..Seriously thinking about selling it or parting it out to make more room in the garage..
Sounds like a good clean simple build. You should do a road racing theme... I always see you make badass drag bikes but i wanna see what you can do with a road race/moto gp bike. Just simple mods would so this, slicks, dual brakes, stiffer rear shock, a badass custom exhaust and a badass paint scheme. But thats just my twocents

Goodluck with the build!!!

Yeah this definately wont be a drag bike LOL..... I'm actually getting alittle burnt out on the x12 drag bike, I started too many mods at one time and then one thing led to another, seemed like I made 1 step forward and then 2 steps back on the progressbanghead... This one will be pretty simple, just a nice clean bike with a few mods to make it different.... I may look into doing a moto scheme... I hate cigerettes but always liked the Camel bikes scheme... I'll have to look at some race bikes on the net and get some ideas...

What real bike do you guys think the X15 most resembles??......

[Shooter]

What real bike do you guys think the X15 most resembles??......

It resembles the binelli

If I wanted to work out a theme it would be Sour Skittles or Pop Rocks

[Niusiic[latvia]]

30 bucks. Thats so cheap! Keep posting!thumbsup2

[125ccCrazy]

It resembles the binelli

If I wanted to work out a theme it would be Sour Skittles or Pop Rocks

yep your right, Thanks Shooter.... Looks like I may have to find a set of X6 wheels as the Benelli has the double spoke wheels like the X6 have.... HMMMM

[Shooter]

I wouldn't worry too much about the wheels......... you already have a good set to work with right there and nothing seems wrong with them.
Besides........... too much of the rim is hidden by the rotors anyway to really be noticed since these rims are only 10"
Don't get me wrong........... a new set of rims would be nice as I really wish there were a selection to choose from.......... I'm just saying why spend more money where you really don't have to? dunno

[Ghost Rider]

yeahh thats the spirit. Bennelli Tornado. You can incorporate full size parts on the bike too. A camel Benneli bike would be sick!

[125ccCrazy]

I wouldn't worry too much about the wheels......... you already have a good set to work with right there and nothing seems wrong with them.
Besides........... too much of the rim is hidden by the rotors anyway to really be noticed since these rims are only 10"
Don't get me wrong........... a new set of rims would be nice as I really wish there were a selection to choose from.......... I'm just saying why spend more money where you really don't have to? dunno

yeah I hear ya on the $$ thing, if I can come across a set someone wanted to trade for the extra set of x15 wheels I have I'd consider that but as far as buying some right now is not on the table...What really sucks, I sold two sets of x6 wheels a few months back..one was a really heavy duty version with athicker hub around the sprocket bolts, must have been a second generation wheel.banghead

yeahh thats the spirit. Bennelli Tornado. You can incorporate full size parts on the bike too. A camel Benneli bike would be sick!


Yeah that would be cool, HMMMMthinking_smilie

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

dont let 125 bs you guys
this will be a full build, he cant go halfway
have you seen him do any mild builds? no
sorry to hear the x12 has waned, just wrap it up, nutty got him self in the same jam, too many mods at once
really sorry to hear bout your '40, i know its very hard to let go of something like that
its one of those times that you just have to be honest with your self and ask, am i ever gonna finish this? do i want to finish it now?
if its no, then try to find someone who will appreciate it and take over
i had plans to redo my 77 starfire, its now literally a hedge at my moms house, im that jeff foxworthy joke about mowing the yard and finding a car
i , like you, got hooked on these bikes...bad
when i was young i always wanted a tomos moped, i never got it, i think this fills that 2wheel need, i also had a few big bikes in the day
the older i get, the more i realize i need to do stuff now, not later
so hook that bike up like its your last....it might be <-----to all you G's

[125ccCrazy]

dont let 125 bs you guys
this will be a full build, he cant go halfway
have you seen him do any mild builds? no
sorry to hear the x12 has waned, just wrap it up, nutty got him self in the same jam, too many mods at once
really sorry to hear bout your '40, i know its very hard to let go of something like that
its one of those times that you just have to be honest with your self and ask, am i ever gonna finish this? do i want to finish it now?
if its no, then try to find someone who will appreciate it and take over
i had plans to redo my 77 starfire, its now literally a hedge at my moms house, im that jeff foxworthy joke about mowing the yard and finding a car
i , like you, got hooked on these bikes...bad
when i was young i always wanted a tomos moped, i never got it, i think this fills that 2wheel need, i also had a few big bikes in the day
the older i get, the more i realize i need to do stuff now, not later
so hook that bike up like its your last....it might be <-----to all you G's


I won't go overboard on this one like I did the X12, basically a rebuild with a few upgrades and fix some of the crappy chinese stuff like the rubber swingarm bushings and the tweaked frame where the swingarm mounts to...

Yeah when I was a kid there was a moped out that looked like a cafe racer, dont remember the name of it but it was badazz. shoot back then it was near a grand if I remember right............ I guess I'm with you on the PB's filling the need LOL.... Just like to work on these lil things, don't know why, guess it is an inner child thingy going on....

Hey that starfire, is it a V8?... About 20 years ago I built an 80 Chevy monza with a 283 v8 4 speed and then I had a 78? buick skyhawk with the Road Hawk package, pulled the v6 and dropped in a warmed over 305 and a 5 speed, I put a monza spider interior in it.... those were both fun cars....

[The Nutty Professor]

Wish I could find a few basket cases floating around Nutty-Rant

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

no, it was a 231 Vsexy, i had grand national aspirations for the motor
i found a bike for 50 on cl but it sold before i got off work Nutty-Rant

[125ccCrazy]

well I was getting some sandblasting done today on the 19, got the swinger blasted, ground out and welded the crack in the side rail near the shock mount, ground the weld down and reblasted it.... I blasted the lower legs of the frt forks as I'm gonna repaint them and not polish them.. Theframe is about a 1/3 done but my sandblaster kept plugging up with moisture so I quit for the day.... Thinking about calling in a favor from a friend that works at the rail yard where they work on trains, see if he can finish blasting the frame, he owes me a fav for fiberglassing his saddle bags on his Harley back in the spring.....

Before starting the blasting today I called Pocketbikeparts.com to see what was up with my body parts, well the red I ordered was no longer available... nice of them to tell me when I ordered last week so I could pick a new color, now I'll be waiting til next week to get them in Nutty-Rant.... I wanted to get them mocked up on the frame before I started any priming and painting in case I need to make new mounts or anything.... Well thats gonna hold things up a bit and our weather is getting colder and colder, not sure how much longer I'll have to do any painting yet this year...

I'll post some inprogress pics later..

[dna316]

well I was getting some sandblasting done today on the 19, got the swinger blasted, ground out and welded the crack in the side rail near the shock mount, ground the weld down and reblasted it.... I blasted the lower legs of the frt forks as I'm gonna repaint them and not polish them.. Theframe is about a 1/3 done but my sandblaster kept plugging up with moisture so I quit for the day.... Thinking about calling in a favor from a friend that works at the rail yard where they work on trains, see if he can finish blasting the frame, he owes me a fav for fiberglassing his saddle bags on his Harley back in the spring.....

Before starting the blasting today I called Pocketbikeparts.com to see what was up with my body parts, well the red I ordered was no longer available... nice of them to tell me when I ordered last week so I could pick a new color, now I'll be waiting til next week to get them in Nutty-Rant.... I wanted to get them mocked up on the frame before I started any priming and painting in case I need to make new mounts or anything.... Well thats gonna hold things up a bit and our weather is getting colder and colder, not sure how much longer I'll have to do any painting yet this year...

I'll post some inprogress pics later..

dude that sucks, i hate having to wait on parts or whatever, but the fact that they didnt tell you makes would make me even more mad. that blows. well i hope you get them soon enough that you can still move foward with the build

[125ccCrazy]

Here are some of the parts I blasted yesterday.... The swingarm had one of those vommon cracks for the x15 and x19 bikes... I ground out the crack with my cut-off wheel and then welded it up..... I probably should have looked for a new swingarm as this one the shock mount was welded in about an 1/8" off on one side... I'd just cut it out and reweld it but it's welded inside as well and I can't get my cut-off wheel in there to grind down the welds...

I blasted the lower legs on the forks so I can repaint them... Not sure what color yet? either silver or gold? The real Benelli Tornado has gold forks...

I gotta get the frame done next and then shoot it with epoxy primer and then silver again..

[Supercharged]

no, it was a 231 Vsexy, i had grand national aspirations for the motor
i found a bike for 50 on cl but it sold before i got off work Nutty-Rant

the good old 3.8, thats what i got with a blower on topcool_smilie

[125ccCrazy]

well the new engine came in today for the 19 build... It's a 110cc 3 valve off ebay for $125... Nice engine, SDG with the clutch on a secondary shaft and not on the crank.... This should make a nice smooth runner for a cruiser....

[Supercharged]

might as well take it apart and port and polish eh?

[125ccCrazy]

might as well take it apart and port and polish eh?

yeah may have to do that and while it's apart do a hc piston LOL.... Oh boy here we go again...crazy_smilie

[relaxednoma]

lol. cant wait to see how this one turns out

[Supercharged]

beutiful as always

[125ccCrazy]

well I went to fit the 110 in the frame and it won't go banghead... the head hits the front down tubes so I had to wack the whole front subframe off... I don't know if i'm going to do it like the x15 frame or spread the front out and weld the down tubes to the fairing supports??... pics to come...

[Ghost Rider]

so have you decided if your going to do the Bennelli Rep?

[Shooter]

NONONONONONONO!!!!!!!!!!
I had the same problem with mine!
I put the frame on end, placed a floor jack inside the frame with a couple small pieces of wood, and then put the jack to work so it would bend (or push out) just enough of that subframe so I could get the engine in to fit.

[125ccCrazy]

NONONONONONONO!!!!!!!!!!
I had the same problem with mine!
I put the frame on end, placed a floor jack inside the frame with a couple small pieces of wood, and then put the jack to work so it would bend (or push out) just enough of that subframe so I could get the engine in to fit.


too late, the frame has been wacked..... I couldnt bend it enough to clear the 3 valve head, the fins and valve caps are too big and hit the frame.... I'm gonna rebuild the frt sub.... No biggie, just a step back....thumbsup2

[125ccCrazy]

ok I wacked the front sub off, gotta get everything trimmed down and gitted and then I can weld her all back up... Once t's all done it should look pretty much factory...

[125ccCrazy]

so have you decided if your going to do the Bennelli Rep?


Thats what I'm aiming for, simular to the pic I posted above of the real Benelli... That bike is so sharp.....

The body panels I ordered were supposed to be red but after a week I find out they don't have any more red so I got the green instead,,,,, It all worked out, I was kinda wishing I'd gotten the green anyways as the Benelli is green plus we already have one red bike......

I have the lower sub welded back in, looks simular to the x15 frame now... The lower sub is basically just for somewhere to weld the body mounts, I don't think it adds much strength to the frame....... thinking_smilie

I have to wait til the body panels get here now so I can put them on the bike and determine where the lower mounting tabs will have to be welded in...


more to come.......................

[Ghost Rider]

so hove you found any 1:1 benelli parts off of ebay to incorporate into the bike?

[125ccCrazy]

so hove you found any 1:1 benelli parts off of ebay to incorporate into the bike?

Honestly I haven't looked... I'm not sure what I could use or need from a 1:1 other than some decals that look like the rear deal only scaled down...

I'm still looking for some X6 wheels so I can make this look as real as possiblethumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya do a benelli motor swap rock2 w00t

[125ccCrazy]

ya do a benelli motor swap rock2 w00t

LOL yeah 3 cyl thumbsup2 now if I could find an old Kawi 400 triple that might be cool, 3 banger 2 smoke.... crazy fast...

That 4 cyl head set up Swheels posted about would be sweet also but at the cost they want, I'll have to pass....

[125ccCrazy]

Well it's been almost 2 weeks since I ordered the body from Pocketbikeparts.com and still nothingangry_red, the tracking number they sent me last week still doesnt show anything being picked up as of yet not to mention it was a week after I ordered that thier website kept showing my order as being processed so I called them to see what was going on and was told the color I wanted was unavailable Nutty-Rant I should have been notified right away or thier website should have stated it was out of stock at the time the order was placed.... I picked a different color and still nothing....... I've been trying to call them all day so far and no one answers, just an answering machine that doesn't accept messages..... I emailed them and requested a discount or my money back if they can't get the parts shipped by the end of today...We'll see what happens...banghead

[dna316]

Well it's been almost 2 weeks since I ordered the body from Pocketbikeparts.com and still nothingangry_red, the tracking number they sent me last week still doesnt show anything being picked up as of yet not to mention it was a week after I ordered that thier website kept showing my order as being processed so I called them to see what was going on and was told the color I wanted was unavailable Nutty-Rant I should have been notified right away or thier website should have stated it was out of stock at the time the order was placed.... I picked a different color and still nothing....... I've been trying to call them all day so far and no one answers, just an answering machine that doesn't accept messages..... I emailed them and requested a discount or my money back if they can't get the parts shipped by the end of today...We'll see what happens...banghead

omg your still waiting on those parts. thats messed up man. im sorry, i really wanted to see you get to work on those fairings. engine looks nice thoughthumbsup2

[Supercharged]

yea sounds like who is that again 125....

[justin_48]

today is a holiday. might not get a responce... and even if they where open dont know if mail servise is running...

[125ccCrazy]

today is a holiday. might not get a responce... and even if they where open dont know if mail servise is running...

according to thier website they are not closed on Columbus day but who knows... beginning to think it's some rinky dink operation...

[Ghost Rider]

hey this might work well for your x15's tail section:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-G5-Powermac-Exhaust-Fan-Assembly-1909_W0QQitemZ400002222225QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 400002222225&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A15%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[Shooter]

I think you might be right Crazy!
Gabe is the guy to talk to.
It shouldn't take this long to get ANYTHING out the door.
I'd be asking for that 15% Halloween discount or my money back.......... and I'd be ringing that phone off the hook all day 'till someone answered.
I'm with you Crazy......... I think they're a family working out of their house/garage.
I believe you gotta start somewhere............. but this just isn't right.
I'm beginning to feel sorry I ever referred you to this placerolleye0010

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

fancy scooter was pricey but fast and good, which is worth a few bucks to me

[125ccCrazy]

hey this might work well for your x15's tail section:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-G5-Powermac-Exhaust-Fan-Assembly-1909_W0QQitemZ400002222225QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 400002222225&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A15%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Yeah that would look good, might have to email them and see what the O.D of the fans are..

I think you might be right Crazy!
Gabe is the guy to talk to.
It shouldn't take this long to get ANYTHING out the door.
I'd be asking for that 15% Halloween discount or my money back.......... and I'd be ringing that phone off the hook all day 'till someone answered.
I'm with you Crazy......... I think they're a family working out of their house/garage.
I believe you gotta start somewhere............. but this just isn't right.
I'm beginning to feel sorry I ever referred you to this placerolleye0010


No worries Shooter,

I called today and some girl answered, put me on hold a few times and comes back, I tell her I ordered the parts two weeks ago, I called last week to check on the status just to find out they dont have the color I wanted so I had to pick a new color and it's been another week.... She tells me the parts are on the way, " LIKE HELL!!!" UPS never even picked them up!!! Ok let me check.... Yeah they are in the warehouse, I'll ship them today.... I asked her, Are you sure they will be sent out today, " Yes I promise"....

Well if that tracking number doesnt show anything by tomarrow I'm calling back and asking to speak to the head honcho!!....
fancy scooter was pricey but fast and good, which is worth a few bucks to me


Yeah Linda at Fancy is good about getting the parts out fast... I figured saving a $100 or so I'd go with pbp but waiting over two weeks to get something is rediculous..

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

um ya, id be pissed, i have no patience
i guess thats why i like racing
im cheap too but 2weeks? im more impatient than cheap, except on ridiculous shipping options (2day air for $50)

[125ccCrazy]

um ya, id be pissed, i have no patience
i guess thats why i like racing
im cheap too but 2weeks? im more impatient than cheap, except on ridiculous shipping options (2day air for $50)

Well I just checked the UPS site and still nothing, if it shows nothing tomarrow at open of business I'm calling back again and talking to the boss...

My fuse is getting shorter by the minute with those people.... They claim they ship within 2 days , thats a laugh.....

I wonder if Linda at Fancy would match thier price on a complete kit??

[The Nutty Professor]

Fancy Scooters is Da Bomb! I have ordered from them a couple times and screwed up the USD order. They called me on my cell to get it straight the day after I placed the order!!!!!!!!!!!! speechless33 If they have what I need they will just about always get my business.

[125ccCrazy]

Fancy Scooters is Da Bomb! I have ordered from them a couple times and screwed up the USD order. They called me on my cell to get it straight the day after I placed the order!!!!!!!!!!!! speechless33 If they have what I need they will just about always get my business.

Yeah I am gonna call pbp again today as that tracking number shows zilch again this morning, if I can't get something straightened out with the owner then I'm gonna give Fancy a call and see what kind of deal they can do me on a body kit..

It's been officially 2 weeks today that I placed and paid for my order...angry_red

I'm running out of good weather to do any blasting and painting and would like to at least get the body mounts welded up so I can prime the frame..

[dna316]

dude thats bogus. yea check n see what fancy can do for you. im dieing here i want to see some plastics on.

[Shooter]

I think he said somewhere in chat that the plastics were sent out yesterday.
That's just too long to have to wait for anything.
Not a good way to do business IMO.
My guess is, is that it will probably take at least 9 days from when it was shipped, for the package to arrive.
crazy_smilie

[125ccCrazy]

According to the ups site the parts are on the way and expected to be delivered monday... I was hoping to get them last week or this week while I was off work, were supposed to go back monday but who knows for how long and now with GM and Chrysler in talks about merging really has me concerned, That can't be good!!

Well maybe next week I can get the brackets fabbed up and welded on so I can get the frame painted...Hopefully the weather will be somewhat good enough to paint by then, it's starting to get cold now thumb_down

[dna316]

yea its getting cold here to. but the weather here is so wierd, it can be 50 one day and the following day jump to 75 then the following day it will snow. but yea i know what you mean bout wanting to paint before you run out of time. i want to finnish up my rims.

[125ccCrazy]

Well the body kit finally arrived today YEAHHH MEE... Everything looks good except the cheesy paint, I was hoping the paint would look good enough to run as is but it's gonna have to get sanded down and resprayed... The body lines look horrible (casting marks) so I'll have a lot of blocking to do over the winter to get it all straight and clean...

One thing I didn't realize is that the tail light is just a dummy, no light at all in it... WELLLLLL that is gonna change... some pvc pipe, plastic welder and a hole saw and I'll have a working light when it's all done with a brake light thumbsup2......... Now I gotta locate a headlight and my body kit will be complete...

[Supercharged]

pictures

[rene13]

Man that is a long time for shipping. My parts that come from overseas didn't take that long. I glad that you now have your parts, can't wait to see them painted.rock2

[dna316]

Well the body kit finally arrived today YEAHHH MEE... Everything looks good except the cheesy paint, I was hoping the paint would look good enough to run as is but it's gonna have to get sanded down and resprayed... The body lines look horrible (casting marks) so I'll have a lot of blocking to do over the winter to get it all straight and clean...

One thing I didn't realize is that the tail light is just a dummy, no light at all in it... WELLLLLL that is gonna change... some pvc pipe, plastic welder and a hole saw and I'll have a working light when it's all done with a brake light thumbsup2......... Now I gotta locate a headlight and my body kit will be complete...

sweet. man it took them long enough, cant wait to see more pics

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

did you get the actual rear lens or is it just black and grooved?
i had to reuse my lens, when i had power in my bike, i cut a hole there and glued in a double filiment socket for the brakes
it did work and look good

[125ccCrazy]

Man that is a long time for shipping. My parts that come from overseas didn't take that long. I glad that you now have your parts, can't wait to see them painted.rock2

yeah my hyd clutch came from Hong Kong in a tad over a week, these knuckle heads took almost 3 weeks from Fla to Ohio thumb_down

sweet. man it took them long enough, cant wait to see more pics These definately need some work, they are in perfect shape as far I can see for cracks and what have ya but the castings are pretty sloppy, the body lines are all wacked and will need a lot of straightening out to look right... Ahh well I have all winter...

did you get the actual rear lens or is it just black and grooved?
i had to reuse my lens, when i had power in my bike, i cut a hole there and glued in a double filiment socket for the brakes
it did work and look good


I have the red lense, just no socket to hold a bulb... I have some LED tail light bulbs so I will just have to make a holder to attach the socket to for the bulb...

[Shooter]

Glad to hear you finally got your parts but sorry to hear it had taken so long.
You got the chrome-plated plastic exhaust tips and the black piece that goes around that too right?
Just making sure you ain't missin' nuttin'.
I think you're gonna have to drill open some of those holes too.
The only things I think you don't get are the vent screens........ but that can be easily taken care of dunno
BTW......... did you ever get that discount card they said they were going to give you?

[125ccCrazy]

Glad to hear you finally got your parts but sorry to hear it had taken so long.
You got the chrome-plated plastic exhaust tips and the black piece that goes around that too right?
Just making sure you ain't missin' nuttin'.
I think you're gonna have to drill open some of those holes too.
The only things I think you don't get are the vent screens........ but that can be easily taken care of dunno
BTW......... did you ever get that discount card they said they were going to give you?


Yep got all those parts, may not use the chrome part if I do a side exhaust, I'll just throw some mesh in there like Blitz$ did on his to give it the look of a radiator like the real deal..

Mesh will work on the frt screens too, I need some for the x12 anyways so I'll pick up a big enoug piece to do it all...

Don't see any discount card unless it's in the bottom but I have a feeling I didnt get one...dunno

Where the sides and the lower fairing scome together will need drilled out a bit and then I'll probably put clip nuts on those spots, the frame brackets are getting lock nuts welded to them for the other body bolts thumbsup2

Thanks again Shooter for the link, they are slow but everything looks good, thats the important thing...

[rene13]

couldn't you just C-notch it, something like this.

But not as chopped up as the picture.

[stuntnx7]

couldn't you just C-notch it, something like this.

But not as chopped up as the picture.


he cant do that because the frame is already weak as it is and those supports help the frame....

[125ccCrazy]

couldn't you just C-notch it, something like this.

But not as chopped up as the picture.

It would have been more work than it's worth to be honest

he cant do that because the frame is already weak as it is and those supports help the frame....


The frame is plenty strong , The x15 is the same frame but without those down tubes, actually this frame is even heavier duty than the x15 due to the bigger, more massive engine mount.... Blitz$ did an endo on his at the races and the frame was good.... I don't plan on dirt biking it, it's just a cruiser... I'll post pics of what I'm doing to the frame, I'm not leaving it hacked off like that in the pic..

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya im pretty sure those tubes arent even needed
the motor makes it strong
but you need something for lower frame support, mine does a wrap around but doesnt go up

[125ccCrazy]

ya im pretty sure those tubes arent even needed
the motor makes it strong
but you need something for lower frame support, mine does a wrap around but doesnt go up


Yep I have my lower support all welded up, I was just waiting for the body to get here so I could bolt it on the upper frame and make the lower body brackets and get them welded on.. Once it all done no one will know it didnt come like this..thumbsup2

[Supercharged]

pictures

[stuntnx7]

It would have been more work than it's worth to be honest




The frame is plenty strong , The x15 is the same frame but without those down tubes, actually this frame is even heavier duty than the x15 due to the bigger, more massive engine mount.... Blitz$ did an endo on his at the races and the frame was good.... I don't plan on dirt biking it, it's just a cruiser... I'll post pics of what I'm doing to the frame, I'm not leaving it hacked off like that in the pic..




i just never have liked the part down below the seat....doesnt look strong, seems like weld is the only thing holding it together to the side plate or whatever you call it....

[125ccCrazy]

Not sure what your talking about but these frames are pretty stout, I believe they are stronger built than the x7,x6, x12 frames....The swingarms are a tad cheesy but the frames are plent strong....

[stuntnx7]

Not sure what your talking about but these frames are pretty stout, I believe they are stronger built than the x7,x6, x12 frames....The swingarms are a tad cheesy but the frames are plent strong....



i dont think any midbike frame is stronger than the x7/18 frame twocents...im talking about the part where the tubes connect coming from the neck to the part under the seat...looks really weak to me...

[125ccCrazy]

i dont think any midbike frame is stronger than the x7/18 frame twocents...im talking about the part where the tubes connect coming from the neck to the part under the seat...looks really weak to me...

I'm not worried about it, it's plenty strong enough for anything I'd ever want it for....If it breaks I'll part it out LOL...

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

"seems like weld is the only thing holding it together"
uh ya

[stuntnx7]

"seems like weld is the only thing holding it together"
uh ya



i meant it as it has no structure and the welds are being strained the bars on up against the side part and welded...shoulda elaborated a little more

[Shooter]

If I think I'm reading this right.......... you mean that "s" shaped part that the swingarm bolt goes through, right?
If this is correct then I know what you're trying to say.
Reinforcing those welds a bit and maybe boxing in that area would help?
If these bikes can be stunted and abused and the frames still hold up..... I don't think we'll have much of a problem to worry about.
It's the stock swingarm that leaves me a little jittery.

[stuntnx7]

If I think I'm reading this right.......... you mean that "s" shaped part that the swingarm bolt goes through, right?
If this is correct then I know what you're trying to say.
Reinforcing those welds a bit and maybe boxing in that area would help?
If these bikes can be stunted and abused and the frames still hold up..... I don't think we'll have much of a problem to worry about.
It's the stock swingarm that leaves me a little jittery.




yea thats what im talking about but also another part that worried me is how it has 2 tubes runnin from the neck and the lower tube is basically running the same path as the top tube and not adding strength to it like it could if it were done differently which is why i say the down tubes are highly needed for support....im sure if it didnt have the down tubes and you set the front wheel down hard enough it would bend those 2 parallel tubes

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

those side plates are the same as the flat pieces of stock that makeup the lower middle of the x18 frame 'suspect'
it is stronger than it looks tho
my swing does flex abit, the sides could be boxed, ive thought of welding some rods in but my welder isnt hot enough

[125ccCrazy]

those side plates are the same as the flat pieces of stock that makeup the lower middle of the x18 frame 'suspect'
it is stronger than it looks tho
my swing does flex abit, the sides could be boxed, ive thought of welding some rods in but my welder isnt hot enough

Thats an idea to box that in, might have to look into that...

[swheels]

Thats an idea to box that in, might have to look into that... Randi you can honeycomb the swinger.It will make it plenty strong also.thumbsup2

[125ccCrazy]

yea thats what im talking about but also another part that worried me is how it has 2 tubes runnin from the neck and the lower tube is basically running the same path as the top tube and not adding strength to it like it could if it were done differently which is why i say the down tubes are highly needed for support....im sure if it didnt have the down tubes and you set the front wheel down hard enough it would bend those 2 parallel tubes


Actually the lower tube has two bends in it which add structural support... Plus on the x19 frame the engine mounts is more like a cradle that supports the swingarm and ties the top and lower frame together, so actually this frame is more solid than an X15 (No disrespect Blitz$). If the x15 holds up okay without the down tubes this frame should be plenty solid and like I said it's just a cruiser and not a stunt or race bike.

I have to agree with Shooter on the swingarm, those are pretty cheesy on both the X15 and X19...

[mishka]

ya my engine mounts are just like yours randy.
I was working on my 15 this past week and i saw a big difference in
how the x15 frame seems more solid than the x18.

[stuntnx7]

Actually the lower tube has two bends in it which add structural support... Plus on the x19 frame the engine mounts is more like a cradle that supports the swingarm and ties the top and lower frame together, so actually this frame is more solid than an X15 (No disrespect Blitz$). If the x15 holds up okay without the down tubes this frame should be plenty solid and like I said it's just a cruiser and not a stunt or race bike.

I have to agree with Shooter on the swingarm, those are pretty cheesy on both the X15 and X19...




the lower tube does not add much support bcuz of the way its bent and ran and it really dont matter if it breaks the welds at the "S" part under the seat ... the subs look like they would twist if i stood on them bluelaugh

[125ccCrazy]

the lower tube does not add much support bcuz of the way its bent and ran and it really dont matter if it breaks the welds at the "S" part under the seat ... the subs look like they would twist if i stood on them bluelaugh


oh well tyo, I aint worried about it, this will hold up to anything I'd ever want it to do and then some..

[125ccCrazy]

Ok here is teh frame before primer and paint... I have the lower cradle all welded up, new body tabs welded on, frame is blasted and ready to paint...

The triple trees got blasted, painted with alum engine paint and baked at 250 degrees to give it a magnesium look simular to the real Benelli... I'm doing the rear sets the same way....

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

hey now, that looks familier
gj

[stuntnx7]

Ok here is teh frame before primer and paint... I have the lower cradle all welded up, new body tabs welded on, frame is blasted and ready to paint...

The triple trees got blasted, painted with alum engine paint and baked at 250 degrees to give it a magnesium look simular to the real Benelli... I'm doing the rear sets the same way....



hey man you should powder coat it...proly will be as cheap as painting will be...in nashville they will powder coat big bike frames for 100 bucks so you could proly get that done for 50 or so and not have to deal with scratches and nicks in reassembling...just a thought

[dna316]

Ok here is teh frame before primer and paint... I have the lower cradle all welded up, new body tabs welded on, frame is blasted and ready to paint...

The triple trees got blasted, painted with alum engine paint and baked at 250 degrees to give it a magnesium look simular to the real Benelli... I'm doing the rear sets the same way....


nice jobthumbsup2. as always

[125ccCrazy]

hey man you should powder coat it...proly will be as cheap as painting will be...in nashville they will powder coat big bike frames for 100 bucks so you could proly get that done for 50 or so and not have to deal with scratches and nicks in reassembling...just a thought

yeah that would definately be the ticket but right now money is funny being layed off every other week.... I'm just using what I have here to save some money, it'll look ok, not as durable as PC but ya work with what ya have sometimes...

nice jobthumbsup2. as always


Thanks,

so far it's not going too bad, definately will be better than it was when I brought it home LOL...

more pics to come as I get further along

[stuntnx7]

yeah that would definately be the ticket but right now money is funny being layed off every other week.... I'm just using what I have here to save some money, it'll look ok, not as durable as PC but ya work with what ya have sometimes.



yea fo sho.

[Ghost Rider]

so whats new on the Benneli x19???

[125ccCrazy]

so whats new on the Benneli x19???

U have the frame painted and setting on my bench in the basement LOL.... working on the x12 at the moment...

[125ccCrazy]

Well I put the x12 off to the side for a few and was messing with this one... I put the 110 3V on the frame and bolted the headpipe on, wouldn't ya know it hits the clutch lever on the engine since the 3V has a rear mounted clutch... Well I started bending the headpipe so it angles up more and away from the lever, so far I think I can make the headpipe work with a new extension pipe to the muffler.... I've pretty much decided to make a muffler for it, tuck it up under the body and run dual outlets through the twin exhaust cutouts in the body.... This muffler will be simular in design as the flowmaster style I built for the x12 except this one will be a tad longer with some internal differences... The mufflers demensions will be approx 2"x 5"x 7.5"...

[The Nutty Professor]

125cc how hard do you think it would be to build from stock a X12 pipe that looks like the real thing? I thought about molding one from kevlar just like they build the carbon pipes. Just a thought.thinking_smilie

[stuntnx7]

125cc how hard do you think it would be to build from stock a X12 pipe that looks like the real thing? I thought about molding one from kevlar just like they build the carbon pipes. Just a thought.thinking_smilie



you mean from scratch or out of the stock pipe dunno

[The Nutty Professor]

Nope. I mean start with the cloth and build a shell then the internals and the caps. I mean a pipe from scratch.

[125ccCrazy]

125cc how hard do you think it would be to build from stock a X12 pipe that looks like the real thing? I thought about molding one from kevlar just like they build the carbon pipes. Just a thought.thinking_smilie

I'd have to have a donor x12 case since mine is all welded up now...

No gaurantees but I can give it a shot.....

[125ccCrazy]

Here is a kwik pic of the frame with the new 3V..... The bike is setting on my bench in my hobby room in the basement LOL...

I bolted the headpipe up and it hits the top mounted clutch lever so now I have to rework the headpipe and build a new extension between it and the muffler...

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

sexy thumbsup2

[dna316]

Here is a kwik pic of the frame with the new 3V..... The bike is setting on my bench in my hobby room in the basement LOL...

I bolted the headpipe up and it hits the top mounted clutch lever so now I have to rework the headpipe and build a new extension between it and the muffler...

Hey Randi.

That 3v is it still a 110cc?
And can you tell a difference in hp top or low end?

[125ccCrazy]

Hey Randi.

That 3v is it still a 110cc?
And can you tell a difference in hp top or low end?

David,

yep it's a 110 with the clutch on a secondary shaft like the gpx 125... Now as far as power difference between the 3V and a regular 2V 110 I can't tell ya at this point as the engine is brand new and the bike still looks like the pic above LOL.... It won't be til spring before the engine see's any fire.. I'm assuming it's gonna be a good one, this engine seems to be a better version of a 110 with the secondary clutch set up..

[dna316]

David,

yep it's a 110 with the clutch on a secondary shaft like the gpx 125... Now as far as power difference between the 3V and a regular 2V 110 I can't tell ya at this point as the engine is brand new and the bike still looks like the pic above LOL.... It won't be til spring before the engine see's any fire.. I'm assuming it's gonna be a good one, this engine seems to be a better version of a 110 with the secondary clutch set up..

nice. cant wait to see what you think of it. i just asked cause i seen a 3v on ebay, not to expensive. figured id ask. nice work so far:clap:

[125ccCrazy]

nice. cant wait to see what you think of it. i just asked cause i seen a 3v on ebay, not to expensive. figured id ask. nice work so far:clap:

yep thats where this one came from back at the end of summer, got it for $125

[ninja x1]

David,

yep it's a 110 with the clutch on a secondary shaft like the gpx 125... Now as far as power difference between the 3V and a regular 2V 110 I can't tell ya at this point as the engine is brand new and the bike still looks like the pic above LOL.... It won't be til spring before the engine see's any fire.. I'm assuming it's gonna be a good one, this engine seems to be a better version of a 110 with the secondary clutch set up..

this engine seems to be a better version of a 110 with the secondary clutch set up. secondary clutch ?????????:confused: wuts that??lol

[125ccCrazy]

this engine seems to be a better version of a 110 with the secondary clutch set up. secondary clutch ?????????:confused: wuts that??lol

The clutch is not mounted on the end of the crank like your stock x18, x19 ect 110 engines... This enginge has the clutch mounted on a secondary shaft behind the crank like the better 125, 150 engines...

[ninja x1]

wuts the point in that??lol

[125ccCrazy]

wuts the point in that??lol

for one the eng can be started in any gear with the clutch pulled in plus it takes the strain off the end of the crank.... Better qaulity built engine..

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

plus when i wrecked, my motor broke in the clutch area, leaving the top end fine
if i would have had a 110cc motor, the force would have broke the crank, rod, piston and all

[ninja x1]

o thats pretty coolcool_smilie

[125ccCrazy]

Here is the x19, now with a reworked frame, new 110cc 3 valve, 26mm mikuni (taper), hyd clutch, larger x18 rotors, repainted calipers, new x15 body kit.... It will have a flowmaster style muffler with dual outlets when it's done, working tail light...

I need an X15 headlight assem if anyone has one to sell

[stuntnx7]

i got one.....hollllerrr

[125ccCrazy]

i got one.....hollllerrr

You have an x15 or is it an x19 headlight?

[X7rocks]

so that motor has a oil slinger? sounds like a tempting build for anyone who wants a bit more power and reliability for a 110 build

but dood that is one clean bike i dont even see them come that clean at my old job nice!

[125ccCrazy]

so that motor has a oil slinger? sounds like a tempting build for anyone who wants a bit more power and reliability for a 110 build

but dood that is one clean bike i dont even see them come that clean at my old job nice!

As far as I know it is the same set up inside as like a gpx or other engines with the clutch mounted on a secondary shaft..... Definately nicer than the other 3 valves with the crank mounted clutch...

The bike is coming along, it was a turd when I bought it...

Before:

[125ccCrazy]

got the bike together and sold it a week ago... too cheap...

[relaxednoma]

dangit, I'd have prolly snagged that!

[125ccCrazy]

dangit, I'd have prolly snagged that!

I had it on CL, lots of calls but the first guy that showed up bought it.... $325

[stuntnx7]

I had it on CL, lots of calls but the first guy that showed up bought it.... $325



you made some change tho so its all good right thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

was that the last bike build? besides the cat

[125ccCrazy]

you made some change tho so its all good right thumbsup2 No didnt make anything, actually took a loss...

was that the last bike build? besides the cat
as far as mids or pocket bikes, yeah I think so....I'm getting into old skool bikes with hott engines, just picked up two karts to play with this winter too...

[ninja x1]

thats way under priced!!!thumb_down

[125ccCrazy]

thats way under priced!!!thumb_down

yeah sold it for exactly what this guy wanted for the gokart.... the bike was better than new when it was done...It only had maybe 1/16 of a mile on it too, rode it around the corner and back to check the tranny and clutch out and that was it....Those hyd clutches are sweet, thing works as smooth as silk... barely pull it and the clutch is disengaged...prob work it with two fingers..

[The Nutty Professor]

Yeah the guy bought it because finding them is getting harder. And at that price for a new one it was highway robbery. And the fact expert hands went through it makes it worth 3X the price. Not jabbing you at all 125 bluelaugh just wondering if the guy really knows what he has bows_smilie