Rebirth of a race bike

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i like the write ups you other guys made about your custom builds
i thought about one for me but my bike was pretty far along so i never did one
now since my bike was destroyed, i have the opportunity to do a ground-up build
this will be very slow im sure, i dont have a lot of funds at this time, but i will do what i can since i have nothing else to do
it all starts with the frame
bling

[r32rider]

damn what paint did you use? is that chrome paint or silver? whatever it is its going to look sweet with the body on. what color you gonna do the body this time?

[mishka]

Looks good man, nice clean start.

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Also your frame is different than mine for some reason..
there is no down pipes and the engine mounts look different.

[Ghost Rider]

sweet i will be checking in daily!!!

Wait, which bike got destroyed, the x15 track bike? It got destroyed from that front flip?speechless33 I thought it was just some light damage.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

this is the 15, it was destroyed
i have the original x15 frame that didnt come with those down pipes
the frame looks straight so i rolled with it
i am going to remake the bike as it was, except better
im working on a shock mount that will raise it up a 1/2 inch or so, that should keep the pegs in the air
i also got up with a design co. that does those whole body decals on cars and vans, they will make anything i want in color, in vinyl, laminated, high detail
6 notebook sized sheets for 100bux
i showed them my designs and it was a go, so im stoked about that

[X7rocks]

wow nice frame blitz
sorry to hear about the other bike =[

[r32rider]

thats the frame formt he wrecked bike.

[X7rocks]

oh damn
well.....
uhmm..watelse survived?

[Ghost Rider]

sad to see your pride n joy in the ruins...I know the next bike will be better then ever though!!!

[ninja x1]

dang so your basicly gonna bulid a bike?? cool
yeah that is a tite color what is it??
maybe ill paint my x18 that color???thinking_smilie

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

got some more parts together, its a roller now
been brainstorming this height issue, i need a little bit more height so my pegs wont scrape, but not a whole inch because that would be too much
i could just remake the peg mounts but i think a little bit more shock length is all i need
i ive been playing with all kinds of bolt on brackets
ive demoed two types so far and i think this one will work best, i get 5/8 of height
i still have to finish the other side but it looks like it will be strong enough is the big ?

[ninja x1]

cool man keep us updated thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

the pinch a inch project is ready for testing
all i could do is roll down the driveway, hopping it

[mishka]

looks good so far man.thumbsup2

[Ghost Rider]

ya keep up the good work

[rene13]

That looks good Blitz.smokin_pimp

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

tracking my body kit and it will be here tomorrow!
dancin dancin dancin, dancin machine rock2crazy_smiliethumbsup2

[X7rocks]

you have a new design for the new plastics?

[rene13]

I think he is stirthepot.

[X7rocks]

how can he top the japanese sunrise on the 18???
oh god....hes gonna do like some kind of bushido ninja paintjob on his bike with the moon in one part of the bike then te ninja jumping in the sky ready to cut something with his sword

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

no but that would be hot:)
im just going to remake it as it was
all the decals will be professionally made this time
i have other paint schemes in mind, but not for this one
make it black and red and call it the setting sun
my wife requested a yellow bike, so im thinking with kawi green, i could do a lemon/lime bike

[Niusiic[latvia]]

no but that would be hot:)
im just going to remake it as it was
all the decals will be professionally made this time
i have other paint schemes in mind, but not for this one
make it black and red and call it the setting sun
my wife requested a yellow bike, so im thinking with kawi green, i could do a lemon/lime bike

mmm. That should look good!

[The Nutty Professor]

Just and idea Blitz. If you can afford it make up a set of race body work. When you hit the track that's what you run. The labor intensive stuff you save for everyday ridin'. That's why I have one color I can easily spray on and replace the decals.

[Niusiic[latvia]]

Just and idea Blitz. If you can afford it make up a set of race body work. When you hit the track that's what you run. The labor intensive stuff you save for everyday ridin'. That's why I have one color I can easily spray on and replace the decals.

but nutty p, if you have 2 or more colors it may look better!bluelaugh

[The Nutty Professor]

Yes it might but re-painting after a get-off is a pain in the butt. Less work makes the rebuild that much easier.

[Niusiic[latvia]]

Yes it might but re-painting after a get-off is a pain in the butt. Less work makes the rebuild that much easier.

yea, that's true!thumbsup2

[Ghost Rider]

Yes it might but re-painting after a get-off is a pain in the butt. Less work makes the rebuild that much easier.

Thats why im getting a new body and keeping it stock...all one color. And the paint is alot tougher if and when the bike goes down.

[Supercharged]

got some more parts together, its a roller now
been brainstorming this height issue, i need a little bit more height so my pegs wont scrape, but not a whole inch because that would be too much
i could just remake the peg mounts but i think a little bit more shock length is all i need
i ive been playing with all kinds of bolt on brackets
ive demoed two types so far and i think this one will work best, i get 5/8 of height
i still have to finish the other side but it looks like it will be strong enough is the big


nothing more than a million uses for a batterycowboy

[swheels]

the pinch a inch project is ready for testing
all i could do is roll down the driveway, hopping itBlitz i know you mentioned welding.But put a spacer in the lower stock shock mount.That way it doesn't collapse in on it self.Lookin good.thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

props to fancy scooters, they shipped fast and was correct
i had to rework these things bad, nothing lined up at first
the frame was bent a bit in the tail, no big deal, it appears ok everywhere else
they are comming together now
i had to make some custom brackets to hold my old headlight in, that worked out great, i used that aluminum i had left over from the body mod, highly recommend
already broke the bottom where the two panels come together, o well, i was gonna cut it out anyway
this time, im gluing the tail pieces together with model glue

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

Blitz i know you mentioned welding.But put a spacer in the lower stock shock mount.That way it doesn't collapse in on it self.Lookin good.thumbsup2

ya i havent forgot, i have a steel sleeve cut to fit

[rene13]

She is coming together nicely.smokin_pimp

[The Nutty Professor]

Don't use model glue. Remember Shooter's Plastic Fusion? I have some but haven't used it yet but look at Shooters work it speaks for itself. Got mine at Harbor Freight.

[rene13]

Don't use model glue. Remember Shooter's Plastic Fusion? I have some but haven't used it yet but look at Shooters work it speaks for itself. Got mine at Harbor Freight.

For further reference, Good ol' Harbor Freight carries it too.

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=plastic+fusion

[X7rocks]

what does that usually work for? does it combine then or something?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

you would think that you could just buy a new body and slap it on, nope
first you must loosely put it on and check fitment, making sure there isnt any stress anywhere
this time i glued lots of spots in the tail that vibrated when the bike was new
i also had to make all the vent grills, 4 original ones and 2 that i added in the tail
i used mesh from an auto airfilter, its great
i used some 2 part exopy and tin snips, it was tedious but they will survive a crash
after all the hardware was figured out and assembled, it was time to start the undercoating
i like it cause it dampens vibration and adds a wee bit of strength, and its spray on, sweet

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well after seeing the hydro clutch i went and signed up for ebay to see what i could get
my clutch broke in the wreck so i needed one anyway, and i found these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FREE-POSTAGE-FOR-FOLDING-CLUTCH-BRAKE-LEVER-125-BIKE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el126 2QQcategoryZ35587QQihZ020QQitemZ300256290337QQtcZp hoto
so i got it, no its not hydro but its folding, and matching

[The Nutty Professor]

speechless33 Dude how the hell have you made it this long without a Ebay account! The number of good buys you can get are worth the trouble.

[Ghost Rider]

Haha ebay is everythingggg!!!...ive been on there since i was 13, cant stop going on daily ever since. Welcome to the true addiction blitz hahathumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya i was fighting it i guess, till i saw those levers
for 30 bux it was a good deal to me
man i dont need anymore addictions, im booked solid right nowbluelaugh

[125ccCrazy]

Looking good so far Blitz$....

I like to use Loctite Super Glue and Plastic Welder that I get from Walmarts, both hold the plastic strong and tight.....

I would have suggested Truck Bed Coating over undercoating, undercoating is basically tar and is one heck of a mess to remove later on and anything petrolium based will make it wet and sticky all over, great for car floors and inner bodies but I'd use something more durable on the bikes...thats just me...

To cut down on body vibration you could rework all the body mounts at the frame and use the rubber mounts that Harleys use on thier oil tanks and such... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OIL-TANK-RUBBER-MOUNTS-5-PAK-FOR-HARLEY-SHOVEL-IRONHEAD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35571QQihZ027Q QitemZ400000466380QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

You can get these mounts with threads too so you can screw a bolt in them or use these with acorn nuts to hold the body on...Works on exhausts too between the muffler bracket and frame....

[The Nutty Professor]

I use something the manufacturer calls a truck bed liner but it doesn't soften. 125 I know what you mean because I tried a different liner because I couldn't find my stuff and it was a holy mess! After that I drove all over looking of my magic dust and found it at Pepboys shoved in a corner. I bought every can.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

the main benefit is that is flexible, its a rubber coating
i never plan to remove it, its on all the insides of the panels
it helps keep the panels from cracking from normal wear

[boonacka]

looks like the rebuild is coming along pretty good. you gonna be ready for the 20th?

did you invest in some leathers?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

sorry boo, i wont be ready this year, my motor got trashed so im not very competitive with a 110cc
i havent gotten any leathers either, im prolly gonna get some crash impact gear first, like that spine and chest thing
the top end of the motor survived so im just saving up for a stock gpx 125 with the 4 up tranny

[boonacka]

ahh that sux. PM sometimes has good deals on used motors. Staggs had a Lifan 138 just sell for $150. Hit him up and see if he has any used bottom ends. I think I may be able to find you one if your interested.

put a bore kit on the 110 and come race! you shouldnt have to wait until next year to race! thats insane! jp man, hope you get everything together.

[CAM2]

Adjustable suspension height can be acheived by taking stock shock apart ;removing the stock yellow spring and buying the 8 3/4"-9 1/2" air adjustable shock from scooterpartsdepot [$60] and putting the 1500lb yellow spring in place of the thinner 500 lb spring on the new adjustable shock.It adjusts both in height and spring preload plus its air adjustable aswell.My 07 X-15 had 11" of ground height to the bottoms of the pegs standing level with the shock set at 9 1/4".To get rid of the nosedive effect I put a 130/90/10 Kenda K416 on the rear and a Kenda K416 90/90/10 front to give it killer handling along with drilling tapping the thick steel front caps to accept air fitting and adding 1lb of air in each.Peace

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

turned in my images to the print shop today
they will be printed on vinyl and let cure a few days, then they will be laminated
it cost 85 for six notebook sized pieces of paper
ill post pics when they are done
the body fitment is almost done

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

its been a busy past few days
i got the vinyl back from the printer and all i can say is wow
this is the real deal, no more ghetto stickers for me
this stuff is thin and will contour easy, and you can restick it if you mess up
i also got in my lever set from china
it looks pretty good and not too pink
i also needed some grips and i seen these a while back and decided to get them
they are called death grips, i also got some carbon fibre bar ends

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

more pics

[X7rocks]

scary grips man ;)

[Niusiic[latvia]]

niceeethumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

man these decals are the sheet
found me a motor too

[ninja x1]

wut kind??

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

gpx 125smokin_pimp

[ninja x1]

cool from where??? is it in good condition wuts the info on it??

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

its new, i plan on taking it apart as soon as i get it and rebuildiing my 146 motor
ive been working on the head since its been apart, polishing

[swheels]

Everything is lookin good and your working in overdrive.thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

thanks S, i must be on a roll
im bout to win the football pool again this week, i already won week one
at this rate, ill have my legal bike soon

[125ccCrazy]

turned in my images to the print shop today
they will be printed on vinyl and let cure a few days, then they will be laminated
it cost 85 for six notebook sized pieces of paper
ill post pics when they are done
the body fitment is almost done

$85?? whoa.... you could have printed your own on the waterslide like I told ya about and made your own but thats cool I guess, at least ya have them now...

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i decided to go high quality
this is 3m vinyl
and totally custom

[stuntnx7]

you like pink huh

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

waiting for my motor, decided to port the head some
this is what you can do with no skills in about an hour
i used some dremil sand/buffs to do it
i dont have the valve spring tool so i couldnt do all the way in
the exhaust side wont take a good pic, the intake is better than it looks

[125ccCrazy]

waiting for my motor, decided to port the head some
this is what you can do with no skills in about an hour
i used some dremil sand/buffs to do it
i dont have the valve spring tool so i couldnt do all the way in
the exhaust side wont take a good pic, the intake is better than it looks

If you want to pull the head apart and send it to me I'll open that puppy up.... Just supply the shipping and dremel wheels/pads..... prob around $30-$35 for ship and the dremel stuff...

$20 shipping
$15 supplys
$0 labor
Kicking azz at the track,,,,,,,,,,,,,PRICELESS

LOL


Oh hey, I was checking out your frame, thats alot different then my x19, I thought they were the same frame, well they are basically but yours doesn't have the 2 frt down tubes or the big cradle for the eng mount... wonder why they changed the frames?.... I've wanted an x15 for a while, always thought it was the best looking bike out so I opted to put the 15 body on my x19 frame...

[dna316]

125 when you say open the head, you mean bore out like how much? and thats for better air intake?

[125ccCrazy]

125 when you say open the head, you mean bore out like how much? and thats for better air intake?


each head is different so there is no specific amount that applies to all applications.... When I said open it up I was talking about smoothing out the rough stuff, rounding off the sharp edges and then matching the ports to the intake and exhaust so yes it will make them bigger... The exhaust gets polished to help it flow out better so it's not hanging up on anything on the way out... The intake does not get polished, it gets roughed up with some 80 grit to help break up the fuel for better atomization....

Opening the ports and cleaning them all up is to increase and free up the flow of both intake and exhaust.....any casting marks, sharp edges ect will interfere with flow....It definately helps....

On my head for the 170 I rounded the sharp edges off around the valves and polished the chamber, this will help in better combustion and eliviate the possibility of Hot Spots in the chamber due to the hard edges.... Hot spots can cause pre-detonation as the hot spot will act as an ignition source and want to burn any fuel in the cylinder before the engine is on the compression stroke.... It's not as prominate on alum heads as it is steel heads but hard edges will heat quicker and be a spot for carbon build up over time...

[dna316]

each head is different so there is no specific amount that applies to all applications.... When I said open it up I was talking about smoothing out the rough stuff, rounding off the sharp edges and then matching the ports to the intake and exhaust so yes it will make them bigger... The exhaust gets polished to help it flow out better so it's not hanging up on anything on the way out... The intake does not get polished, it gets roughed up with some 80 grit to help break up the fuel for better atomization....

Opening the ports and cleaning them all up is to increase and free up the flow of both intake and exhaust.....any casting marks, sharp edges ect will interfere with flow....It definately helps....

On my head for the 170 I rounded the sharp edges off around the valves and polished the chamber, this will help in better combustion and eliviate the possibility of Hot Spots in the chamber due to the hard edges.... Hot spots can cause pre-detonation as the hot spot will act as an ignition source and want to burn any fuel in the cylinder before the engine is on the compression stroke.... It's not as prominate on alum heads as it is steel heads but hard edges will heat quicker and be a spot for carbon build up over time...

would it even make a difference to do this to my stock 110?

[125ccCrazy]

would it even make a difference to do this to my stock 110? oh sure it would help, it's not gonna add crazy power but sure it will help.... To really make the porting work to it's full potential I'd suggest a bigger cam and an hc piston followed of course by an exhaust....

I have a stock 110 head, maybe I'll tear it down, take some before and after pics of some porting....

[dna316]

oh sure it would help, it's not gonna add crazy power but sure it will help.... To really make the porting work to it's full potential I'd suggest a bigger cam and an hc piston followed of course by an exhaust....

I have a stock 110 head, maybe I'll tear it down, take some before and after pics of some porting....


heck yea that would help me out alot, and show what tools you use and all that. i really want to get that 150 that ashar014 got but its lots of money all at once i dont have so id like to do all the little things that i can, plus its good hands on experience

[Ghost Rider]

hell id be interested too!

[125ccCrazy]

heck yea that would help me out alot, and show what tools you use and all that. i really want to get that 150 that ashar014 got but its lots of money all at once i dont have so id like to do all the little things that i can, plus its good hands on experience


yeah I have that same 150 on my x12 drag but I went with a 170cc hc kit.... can't wait to hear that run....
hell id be interested too!

I'll have to look into that once I get my garage together, well cleaned up and organized, something I have neglected to do all summer... tired of tripping over everything, walking around in the garage right now is like walking across a cow pasture, tip toe, zig and zag, twist, jump, hop LOL...

[Ghost Rider]

I'll have to look into that once I get my garage together, well cleaned up and organized, something I have neglected to do all summer... tired of tripping over everything, walking around in the garage right now is like walking across a cow pasture, tip toe, zig and zag, twist, jump, hop LOL...

haha i hear ya man...and your always taking on all kinds of projects

[125ccCrazy]

Sorry Blitz$, didnt mean to hijack the thread, the head porting subject kinda started snowballing....

any whoooo if ya want that done, just LMK....

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

no prob
ya i almost asked you anyway, cause the ones you did look great
so i decided to try it myself anyway, except i didnt give myself a very good chance because i dont have a valve spring tool
i did get some dremil buff things and play around
if you can r&r the valves i may do that, and i appreciate the offer very much
this is my race bike so i need all i can get since every dang body has a 150+ these days

[125ccCrazy]

no prob
ya i almost asked you anyway, cause the ones you did look great
so i decided to try it myself anyway, except i didnt give myself a very good chance because i dont have a valve spring tool
i did get some dremil buff things and play around
if you can r&r the valves i may do that, and i appreciate the offer very much
this is my race bike so i need all i can get since every dang body has a 150+ these days

funny you should say about the tool, I JUST made one LOL.... still need to refine it a bit but it worked pretty good on the 110 head....

I will be making aboard to bolt the head to when removing and installing the valve keepers, it's a pain to hold the head and try to collapse the springs at the same time...

I'll get a pic of the tool in a bit.... crude but effective...If I can make some that look good and work good maybe offer some up for some toy $$$ thinking_smilie

[125ccCrazy]

Ok here is the tool I came up with and the 110 head I'll be porting and doing a valve job on to show a beginning to end port job....

If you look inside the valve pockets you will notice a ridge, this will have to be blended into the edge of valve seat to help flow....The exhaust port will get opened up some along with the intake, I'll blend the ridge around the outside of the valves in the combustion chamber also to improve flow out of the intake and into the exhaust ports...

[swheels]

Hey that's cool.

I just use a pair of needle nose pliers And push down on the spring and retainers and done.thumbsup2 I put something underneathe to keep the valves in there place also.

[Supercharged]

nice weld

[125ccCrazy]

nice weld

The weld just serves as a stop so the tool doesn't roll down in the head.. The groove just ahead of the weld fits under the stock pivot shaft for the rocker, this gives the tool something to pivot on...

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well i just went and tried swheels needle nose method on my stock gpx head
i got the valve out but not back in, classic me
now i see you put the rocker tube back in

[125ccCrazy]

well i just went and tried swheels needle nose method on my stock gpx head
i got the valve out but not back in, classic me
now i see you put the rocker tube back in


yeah it's apain in the azz to hold the head and try to compress the spring all the while trying to drop the little keepers back in the groove...

I gotta get my board made up yet to bolt the head to with a stop under it to hold the valves up while re-installing the keepers...

LMk if ya wanna do that head....

[The Nutty Professor]

I've got a spring tool you can make using a C-clamp and it holds the spring and the valve. I throw up a photo if I can find the damn thing.

[125ccCrazy]

I've got a spring tool you can make using a C-clamp and it holds the spring and the valve. I throw up a photo if I can find the damn thing.

yeah I made one of those when I did my 141 last summer but it was a pain in the butt to use so I made this up the other day...

When I did my 150 head I used a 15mm boxed end wrench with a short rod welded to the end, that works like a charm...

[The Nutty Professor]

Yeah it can be hard to use when you first try but I got pretty good with it.

[125ccCrazy]

Yeah it can be hard to use when you first try but I got pretty good with it.


the tool is simular to what I made except I didnt have it attached to the
C-clamp, that may have worked better..... This little tool I made the other day is pretty simple and worked great, would have been better with the head fastened down to a board...


Nice work on the compress, always good to have new ideas thumbsup2

[The Nutty Professor]

No 125cc I don't want anyone thinking I made that. It's actually a tool made by Honda for service by their mechanic's. As you can see it's a C-clamp with do-hicky's attached. I think anybody with a cheesy welder can make one.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

got the motor yesterday
i didnt know it had an irk on it instead of a flywheel, not sure if i like that
finding the timing wasnt hard but it came with its own cdi, that i dont know how to hook up, there is only 2 wires comming from the motor
none of the wires are the same colors as before banghead
so if anyone know the order, id appreciate that
the top end went on without too much cussin
can i take the flywheel off my old motor and put it on the new one?

[125ccCrazy]

got the motor yesterday
i didnt know it had an irk on it instead of a flywheel, not sure if i like that
finding the timing wasnt hard but it came with its own cdi, that i dont know how to hook up, there is only 2 wires comming from the motor
none of the wires are the same colors as before banghead
so if anyone know the order, id appreciate that
the top end went on without too much cussin
can i take the flywheel off my old motor and put it on the new one?

Looks good Blitz$, I like it better than before.... very nice...

Your cdi should have 5 wires

2 green
1 white
1 yellow
1 red with a double plug

white will go to the white from the engine
yellow to the coil
red will go to the other wire from the engine
green with eye ring to eng bolt
green with female spade to coil neg

Your kill switch will go to the other half of the red dbl plug and then the other side of the kill will get grounded to the engine

you can use your stator, you'll most likely need an impact driver to get the screws out unless you've already had it off before.... Just unbolt each set up and switch them.... pretty easy...

If you decide not to run the IRK lmk what ya want for it..

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

perfect, thats just what i needed
thanks also to nuttyp for pics
ive decided to give the irk a feel, and if i dont like it, i can go back
i will keep you in mind 125cc, and thanks for the help
i think you were the one that helped on my original install thumbsup2 bows_smilie

[ninja x1]

why dont u want the irk in there???dunno

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well it runs, i let it idle awhile
everything checks out so far
the irk really makes a difference, it really revs fast
when you let off tho, it falls flat, i had to turn my idle up or it would die after a rev
should be riding tomorrow

[ninja x1]

so is it good for raceing or not????

[swheels]

My compliments to the chef.thumbsup2
Great work and fast Blitz.!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

today i rode it to work for its maiden voyage
i hate riding without testing but ya know....
the irk is only worth a crap over 5-6k rpm, then its just scary, i was lifting the wheel when i didnt want to
still working out the kinks, minor things
the 5/8ths lift kit i put on seems to be the ticket to no scraping
balled up the hood then changed the oil
i made a vid so you can hear the irk effect, im hardly giving it any gas, it just revs like that now
midbike nation out front and representing cool_smilie
YouTube - reborn

[Supercharged]

wow, that tachs up so quick

[relaxednoma]

thats killer looking. love how it sounds!

[boonacka]

awesome job man. you got it back together! time to race on the 18th? you'll love the IRK.. i took mine off though, i kept stalling the starts at the race last month

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

no i wont be ready this year looks like, the bike is now but im poor again
thats the problem i see with the irk, off the line and low rpm, its weak
in those tight turns i dont think its gonna pull out like it was, plus its more unpredictable now
your forced to ride it like a 2stroke, and i dont like that as much

[boonacka]

it should pull out just fine as long as your geared right and your in the right gear. The 146 has plenty of torque. you cant just lug it around anymore. the problem will be in the coming out of the corners and getting on the throttle easy so as to not spin up the motor too quickly and break the tire loose. happened to me again last month gunning for a trophy in the F1 main !!! so close.....

anyway, yeah it will take some track time to get acquainted with the different powerband.

[Niusiic[latvia]]

looks sexyy!

[swheels]

no i wont be ready this year looks like, the bike is now but im poor again
thats the problem i see with the irk, off the line and low rpm, its weak
in those tight turns i dont think its gonna pull out like it was, plus its more unpredictable now
your forced to ride it like a 2stroke, and i dont like that as muchAh i was gonna post up something about that yesterday..Now it seems you gotta be more smoother and have a steady hand.I kept woundering why i counldn't throw the bike around like i use to.Or even dive in hard into the turns like i use to...As soon as i'd go into a turn if i hit a bump, if my hand moved that was it.The bike would launch then get out of shape on me.I guess that was one of the reasons i had a hard time at the Elgin track.For sandyhook LOL i don't even want to talk about it.rolleye0010

Yup practice practice practice. I don't think i'll make sandyhook for this race.I think i'll try to make the next one.I will be ready for sure.thumbsup2

[boonacka]

i think the last one is going to be just a track day. either way, we need more riders!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

hey if you come get me, im there rock2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

went to take the flywheel off my old motor
took the center nut off with my impact, and it wont slide off
i beat it, pried it, nothing
oh, is this where i need a slide hammer?

[125ccCrazy]

went to take the flywheel off my old motor
took the center nut off with my impact, and it wont slide off
i beat it, pried it, nothing
oh, is this where i need a slide hammer?


you need a flywheel puller... It screws into the clutch drum and then you screw down the center bolt and it pops it off...

[ninja x1]

dam u finished the bike pretty quick, looks cool,.. 100% track bike, well looks like one..thumbsup2

[rene13]

That was a record time build Blitz:phat:

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya it wasnt that bad, only maybe half, just alot of money angry_red
plus im fast--->Blitz<---
man this bike is fast as crap now, it was before but wow
i bet the irk gives 1000-2000 more rpm and 1.5-2 hp
im learning to ride it like it has a 3k stall converter that will die if i let it drop to low, so far thats working
the unexpected wheelies are fun too crazy_smilie

[125ccCrazy]

Sound slike your getting to like that IRK LOL............. When I put the IRK on the 141 last summer it pulled fast and crisp... I'm debating if i should do one on the 3 valve or not??... The 170 has one, that should be a fun ride when it's done.....Now if they just come out with a race cam for yx head thumbsup2

[Ghost Rider]

whats the latest?!?!

[ninja x1]

you should make a vid of u riden it...thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya its about time for another top speed run, see whats up

[Ghost Rider]

Wait so your already done with the bike? I thought you were completely rebuilding it???

[The Nutty Professor]

Sound slike your getting to like that IRK LOL............. When I put the IRK on the 141 last summer it pulled fast and crisp... I'm debating if i should do one on the 3 valve or not??... The 170 has one, that should be a fun ride when it's done.....Now if they just come out with a race cam for yx head thumbsup2

UUMMM Randi UUUMMM don't know how to tell you this but UUUMMM you have something hanging out your bluelaughbluelaughbluelaugh Naw just acting stupid. They do have race cams and a decomp cam for th V2 head. I believe TB sells it and NCC.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

Wait so your already done with the bike? I thought you were completely rebuilding it???

ya its done and ready to race
everything that was broken in the crash is fixed with some improvements
it is better than it was, and just waiting for a race to prove it
i had to get a new body, motor, clutch perch, clip on, grips
the body was the most work and took the longest

[The Nutty Professor]

Great thumbsup2 Did you and the Misses find a new diggs?

[Ghost Rider]

Post pics of the new bike pleeeasseebluelaugh

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

tnp, ya were getting a trailer cuz thats all we can afford on our own :(
so ill officially be park trash
i wont have a garage anymore and thats the part that really sucks, its a mans right to have a garage
i have a lot of stash parts that i need to sell because i wont have room, so ill be listing that soon
49cc, i think i posted pics already but ill try to get some better ones, its the same as it looked before except the decals are high quality this time and i love the death grips
matter of fact i think im gonna go ride my baby now that i feel better

[swheels]

tnp, ya were getting a trailer cuz thats all we can afford on our own :(
so ill officially be park trash
i wont have a garage anymore and thats the part that really sucks, its a mans right to have a garage
i have a lot of stash parts that i need to sell because i wont have room, so ill be listing that soon
49cc, i think i posted pics already but ill try to get some better ones, its the same as it looked before except the decals are high quality this time and i love the death grips
matter of fact i think im gonna go ride my baby now that i feel better Hey you gotta do watcha gotta do.what about a small storage to rent for your stuff?

[The Nutty Professor]

Or a enclosed pull-behind trailer. They make decent work space you just have to keep moving stuff but it's all there when it's time to go to the track thumbsup2

[125ccCrazy]

UUMMM Randi UUUMMM don't know how to tell you this but UUUMMM you have something hanging out your bluelaughbluelaughbluelaugh Naw just acting stupid. They do have race cams and a decomp cam for th V2 head. I believe TB sells it and NCC.

yeah the race head but not a stock yx head unless they just came out... the only cams out that I know of are for the klx head which will fit but they are smaller than the stock 150 yx cam... I know this as I bought a klx race cam and compared them, it went back and I got the 170 kit instead..

If you know something I don't post me some links...

[The Nutty Professor]

I'll have to look around again...don't hold me to this bluelaugh I pretty sure I read it somewhere it's just finding it again dunno

[Kurlon]

yeah the race head but not a stock yx head unless they just came out... the only cams out that I know of are for the klx head which will fit but they are smaller than the stock 150 yx cam... I know this as I bought a klx race cam and compared them, it went back and I got the 170 kit instead..

If you know something I don't post me some links...

A S35 auto decomp cam is much more aggressive than a stock YX150 cam. More lift, more duration. Stock YX150 cams have big lobes, but they've also got big base circles...

[125ccCrazy]

A S35 auto decomp cam is much more aggressive than a stock YX150 cam. More lift, more duration. Stock YX150 cams have big lobes, but they've also got big base circles...

will the s35 fit a stock yx head though?? they are designed for the race head as far as I understand and that the cams are not interchangeable according to different sellers that I've asked about this.....

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

this cam?
http://minibikeoutlet.com/index2.php?l=product_detail&p=2218

[125ccCrazy]

this cam?
http://minibikeoutlet.com/index2.php?l=product_detail&p=2218


That might work... $380? that is only a little less than I paid for my complete engine shipped...... I'll have to keep my stock cam LOL.. I'll bet they don't sell alot of them cams...

[The Nutty Professor]

Blitz,

I came into your thread to ask a X15 specific question. You might know or maybe not. I'm wondering how well you think a set of X12 bodywork will fit. I'm going for broke and doing it but a little of that Blitz X15 insight is what I'm looking for.

Another reason to bring her back is what kind of winter work have you done so far?

[swheels]

will the s35 fit a stock yx head though?? they are designed for the race head as far as I understand and that the cams are not interchangeable according to different sellers that I've asked about this.....I don't know if he ever got to answer the Q.The s35 is a roller cam,so it won't fit the stock yx head.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

hey, i dont know about the x12 body
its narrow and the 15 is a wide bike, they might fit better on an 18
why not just get some 15 fairings? wont the x22 fairings fit?
as for me, ive been a complete bum
no work has been done and i havent even rode it yet
im hoping to get a ride this weekend if it stays warm and dry
if not then ill have to wait for the wife to go shopping so i can at least start it in the house, and run some gas out, after i put air in the tire

[swheels]

hey, i dont know about the x12 body
its narrow and the 15 is a wide bike, they might fit better on an 18
why not just get some 15 fairings? wont the x22 fairings fit?
as for me, ive been a complete bum
no work has been done and i havent even rode it yet
im hoping to get a ride this weekend if it stays warm and dry
if not then ill have to wait for the wife to go shopping so i can at least start it in the house, and run some gas out, after i put air in the tireLOL I've been wishing that my wife's mother would move out.So i could move some of my bikes indoors.banghead

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya fireman had the sweetest spot for his nsr on the fireplace bricks

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

finally got to ride today
it took forever to get out of the house and once i did, it took alot of kicks to start, i blame the irk on that, it never used to take more than 1-2
so im just about to take off and the clutch lever breaks at the barrel holder spot angry_red
so i went and raped to perch off the 18 and hooked it up real quick
finally got on the road and it was nice, the motor felt strong as it was and i had no issues
then somewhere i forgot the shift pattern and stalled it angry_red
on the way home i passed a yamaha and we gave the motorcycle wave and i was like :phat:

[ninja x1]

that's good that u finally rode it....thumbsup2 how fast is it?? is it faster than before??

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

maybe the top end is faster because it can rev a bit higher
mostly its in the mid range where it pulls hard
this irk man...it has me loving and hating it at the same time
this setup should be good for 80+, just guessing

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

finally quit bs'in with those crap levers i got from china and got some good ones
and a pic for brian

[Supercharged]

finally quit bs'in with those crap levers i got from china and got some good ones
and a pic for brian

i want those avs's, i seen them at kames but they were for 250-450 dirtbikes...i need some smaller or shorty levers form avs

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

these are the shortys, they look good on the bike, i dont have pics of that yet tho

[X7rocks]

whats that carb for?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

its for sale, and a pic was requested

[briansX19haulsass]

so is the carb like acually good or is it just a molkt or somethin

[briansX19haulsass]

also is it jetted??

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i told you i dont know, its new, never seen gas
of course its jetted, meaning it has jets in it

[briansX19haulsass]

did u put new jets or is this just a totally new carb that came with something? If u jetted if for ur 146cc ill buy it

[X7rocks]

did u put new jets or is this just a totally new carb that came with something? If u jetted if for ur 146cc ill buy it

uhmm it isnt specifically jetted for anything he just said its brand new how could he put jets in something and expect it to work without testing itthinking_smilie

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

let go over some terms
jetted = with jets in it
all carbs come with jets in them or else they wouldnt work
any place that says they have pre-jetted carbs are implying that they are 'tuned' for your application, when that is near impossible to replicate
to jet or rejet a carb = to tune a carb in by testing it out, then changing the jets or other tuning methods until the motor is at its strongest
i just took the float bowl off to look at the main jet size but there wasnt a number on it either
so who knows
it is a true 26, i measured it, so its gonna flow some air thats for sure
and like i said earlier, it came with the motor i bought after i trashed my first one at sandyhook, but i just reused my vm26 so i never tried this one and its just been sitting
either way is fine with me if you do or dont want it

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

got me some head today...some race head!
the pics suk, its really nice
i got the kit with everything since you gotta get a different piston anyway
i may buff the ports some but for a stock part its pretty clean
comes with better springs so no more floating at high rpm
cant wait to try it out

[swheels]

Whew i'm glad you got the kit(read that it would work with the old 146 piston) Although i don't think it would have been a big deal to use with old 146 setup.Just a matter of cutting some bigger valve relief's in the piston.thinking_smiliethumbsup2

[X7rocks]

from what i hear theres no point in running such large valves on a small engine? mainly ment to work better for 170cc plus from what akunar said..ill try to find the email

....found it..

Dear Kenny,

In our opinion anything over 28/24V is not needed unless we are talking over
170cc which is borderline for reliability in a Jialing anyway. If 60+ bore
we can squeeze in 30/26V. Other sizes are easily fitted like 30/24 but this
is probably not the way to go. We have made a few for people upon request
but we dont get great feedback so im not sure of there success. We sell
28/24V Heads for $225 and other combinations $250-275 USD

Hope this helps and let us know your thoughts

Best Regards

Gift Davis

[swheels]

from what i hear theres no point in running such large valves on a small engine? mainly ment to work better for 170cc plus from what akunar said..ill try to find the email

....found it..

Dear Kenny,

In our opinion anything over 28/24V is not needed unless we are talking over
170cc which is borderline for reliability in a Jialing anyway. If 60+ bore
we can squeeze in 30/26V. Other sizes are easily fitted like 30/24 but this
is probably not the way to go. We have made a few for people upon request
but we dont get great feedback so im not sure of there success. We sell
28/24V Heads for $225 and other combinations $250-275 USD

Hope this helps and let us know your thoughts

Best Regards

Gift DavisI would definitly have to dissagree with that.LOL
I took off my v2 roller head and put back on the stock yx150 head after a port and polish job.I noticed the improvement from the re-worked stock head.But it still came no where close to the power of my v2 head.So i put the v2 head back on.thumbsup2
So with that in mind i'm gonna put the new big valve head on my 146cc and make some custom roller rocker for the lifan head and throw those puppies in.Then see what happens.
I'm pretty sure when Blitz put that head on his motor he's gonna notice a big difference also.bows_smilie

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

they are entitled to their opinion
but this isnt some sgr kit, its trailbikes
im sure they just didnt slap this head together hoping it would sell just cuz
the exhaust is only 23.5 so that didnt change much, mostly the intake and port flow, plus thinking_smilie im not even done yet
S, i heard about the reliefs and thought why take the chance, as big daddy kane would say: aint no half steppin

[X7rocks]

thats the part i dont get? does bigger mean better? i might try and save up for one of those valve heads to try them myself or if i can find a dyno area around me ill try to go for a run and maybe blitz can try one aswell to see what power we both make to compare and contrast.

sorry didnt put much info on what to compare

to compare the zonger with larger worked ports 27/23
or adding a larger intake to 32/23.5

:dunno: ill email a shop around mechanicsville MDto see if dynoing is possible

[swheels]

they are entitled to their opinion
but this isnt some sgr kit, its trailbikes
im sure they just didnt slap this head together hoping it would sell just cuz
the exhaust is only 23.5 so that didnt change much, mostly the intake and port flow, plus thinking_smilie im not even done yet
S, i heard about the reliefs and thought why take the chance, as big daddy kane would say: aint no half steppinI would have got the 150 big bore kit for that puppy.Since you would have had to change the piston anyway.:dunno:

[X7rocks]

S ive ben hearing that the v2 heads have ben. ...lacking of power in midrange..like a flat spot on power

have you ben feeling that??

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

[QUOTE=X7rocks;31656]thats the part i dont get? does bigger mean better?
ya ask any girl lol
no really, its gonna kick the crap outta the zong head, i can see the difference
i still like the zong head tho but the race head has a 30mm intake, im gonna be cramming alot of mix in there
by the time i hit the dyno our motors will be uncomparable, but i heard of a harley/sport shop near me that has a dyno, i was plannin on askin them if my bike would fit on it
S, they accidently sent the klx v2 head by accident first, (i almost kept it)it was nice but this one seems a little nicer

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

I would have got the 150 big bore kit for that puppy.Since you would have had to change the piston anyway.:dunno:

you mean the 160 kit?
i cant , it would blow for sure
i know what happened to rk and im not gonna go that route, im gonna make the 146 nasty

[swheels]

[QUOTE=X7rocks;31656]thats the part i dont get? does bigger mean better?
ya ask any girl lol
no really, its gonna kick the crap outta the zong head, i can see the difference
i still like the zong head tho but the race head has a 30mm intake, im gonna be cramming alot of mix in there
by the time i hit the dyno our motors will be uncomparable, but i heard of a harley/sport shop near me that has a dyno, i was plannin on askin them if my bike would fit on it
S, they accidently sent the klx v2 head by accident first, (i almost kept it)it was nice but this one seems a little nicerIt would have been cool if you could have made it fit your motor.LOL But that would have dam near took a miracle.Well get that motor together an see what she do.thumbsup2

[X7rocks]

[QUOTE=X7rocks;31656]thats the part i dont get? does bigger mean better?
ya ask any girl lol
no really, its gonna kick the crap outta the zong head, i can see the difference
i still like the zong head tho but the race head has a 30mm intake, im gonna be cramming alot of mix in there
by the time i hit the dyno our motors will be uncomparable, but i heard of a harley/sport shop near me that has a dyno, i was plannin on askin them if my bike would fit on it
S, they accidently sent the klx v2 head by accident first, (i almost kept it)it was nice but this one seems a little nicer


from what i see on planetminis most going up a size for a valve led to 1 1 or 2 hp gain :dunno:

i found a site that shows some motorcycle dealers ill give them a call to see if its possible i just wonder how much it iwll cost

[swheels]

[quote=Blitz.Inc.$;31660]


from what i see on planetminis most going up a size for a valve led to 1 1 or 2 hp gain :dunno:

i found a site that shows some motorcycle dealers ill give them a call to see if its possible i just wonder how much it iwll costwhos posting those numbers.If it wasn't worth it then they wouldn't put it out there.The stock yx head came with 28/23 vs the v2 roller 30/24.They could have just made roller rockers for the stock head.They new it was gonna b a big gain.thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

here for cars its 60bux for 3 pulls

[X7rocks]

but thats from normal rocker to roller rockers more hp can be acheived from them
thats why so much more HP is acheived with the crf's +R valve head the se valve head isnt roller rockers and doesnt produce as much hp even witht he same size valevs, and the DOHC setup isnt roller rocker (as of yet possibility of a demos head) and the +R matches the power of a DOHC setup.


and i thought the yx stock had 25/23

[swheels]

but thats from normal rocker to roller rockers more hp can be acheived from them
thats why so much more HP is acheived with the crf's +R valve head the se valve head isnt roller rockers and doesnt produce as much hp even witht he same size valevs, and the DOHC setup isnt roller rocker (as of yet possibility of a demos head) and the +R matches the power of a DOHC setup.


and i thought the yx stock had 25/23Naw the yx 150 stock head has 28/23.I even went to into my garage and and used the digi calipers on them to be sure.(I haven't looked at the head in ages.)Well when i slap that new big valve head on my 146 with the roller rockers i'm gonna make.I'll take that bike out for a few practice laps with Blitz.Then we can see.I do know the roller rockers do help.Though that's why when i make a set and it wasn't to much of a hassle.I'm gonna roller rock every head on each of my motors LOL.Plus some extra stuff buying some new tools that will help the hp cause.

[X7rocks]

mind haveing me try some rocker heads :)

[FiveStarSky]

yeah, thats why my lowers are spray painted, scratches and dings are fixed in about 5mins, lol

[swheels]

S ive ben hearing that the v2 heads have ben. ...lacking of power in midrange..like a flat spot on power

have you ben feeling that??Heck no it doesn't fall off till a few rpms towards redline.I found it more better for me to shift at mid or just before midrange pulls some nice power wheelies.I mean reeeeeaaaaallllllll nice.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

got the head on and did the first startup, it didnt blow up :) so thats good
it felt pretty strong but i didnt ride it yet so who knows, should be riding this weekend
also got some more parts in cool_smilie

[ninja x1]

dam it looks like a monster,,,,!!!!speechless33



what is that lil thing on the floor it looks like a lil turbo???? :confused:

[GaRsNoW]

Sick lookin bike man. thumbsup2 I'd love to have my bike be as nice as that one day

[GaRsNoW]

is that a minature turbo on the ground?!?!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya, its a rhb31 rock2

[ninja x1]

r u gonna put it in there??

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

do you think i should?

[ninja x1]

yeah dam i f i had that turbo i would... lol

[SoPackedCustoms]

Blitz you already know you bought it to put it on quite playing games lol

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

bluelaugh
ok ill try
today im gonna take it to work and spool it up, and try to get a sound clip of it

[The Nutty Professor]

Man even just jacking one of those up with compressed air is pure music smokin_pimp:word:

[ninja x1]

that will be bad ass if u do get it to work!!!!speechless33


how long have u had that for?? not that ima buy one but where did u buy it at and for how much???:confused:

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

got it spun up today, not really that impressive on the sound so i didnt record it, it moves alot of air tho, i just took the waste gate off, i dont think it will overboost
im just game planning the fitment and plumbing
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p3907.m29&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D1&item=220360180284&category=33742&viewitem=
rode the 146 today, more break in time, nothing past half throttle, so far so good

[The Nutty Professor]

Dude does the boss know you spent that kind of money...ah never mind I know the answer to that on moon1

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya but the boss dont know what a turbo is lol
so its all lumped together in money on that 'dam bike'
you still got that efi link?

[The Nutty Professor]

you still got that efi link?

I have a couple which one are you talking about :dunno:

[SoPackedCustoms]

im sure we all have seen this before

[The Nutty Professor]

Yes smog pump used as a supercharger run off the cam. I plan on doing that one day but running it off the cam is bad juju wave_fingerwave_finger

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

the compact single serving efi setup
imma try the carb first
that super off the cam is just crazy, off the flywheel is the most reliable option, plus, its twice as fast
YouTube - HONDA　Monkey　SuperCharger

[swheels]

the compact single serving efi setup
imma try the carb first
that super off the cam is just crazy, off the flywheel is the most reliable option, plus, its twice as fast
YouTube - HONDA　Monkey　SuperCharger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrtOpmEsHpY&feature=related)That bike needs a good tunning.If that person was to race anybody right now.They would lose hands down.Because of the way it's loading up on the lowend.The bike wouldn't be able to get out of it's own way.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya that kind of power on the low end isnt real good for track racing, maybe a good drag motor
plus it is an overall drag on the motor to run the compressor
i went turbo cause, im putting the flywheel back on the bike, so ill have that snap out of the corner that i had, the irk doesnt come on till 4-5 rpm, and the turbo should come on at about 4-5, and since its exhaust driven there wont be a power loss
the biggest challenge will be getting it to run good in 3 ranges, idle, half and full throttle
now that the air is extremely variable, so does the fuel need to be as flexable

[swheels]

ya that kind of power on the low end isnt real good for track racing, maybe a good drag motor
plus it is an overall drag on the motor to run the compressor
i went turbo cause, im putting the flywheel back on the bike, so ill have that snap out of the corner that i had, the irk doesnt come on till 4-5 rpm, and the turbo should come on at about 4-5, and since its exhaust driven there wont be a power loss
the biggest challenge will be getting it to run good in 3 ranges, idle, half and full throttle
now that the air is extremely variable, so does the fuel need to be as flexableYeah that will be cool if you get it all setup and ready for VIR.thumbsup2 I'm dying to see if those things are actually worth the trouble.

This is what i would do.Have the turbo flowed to see how much lbs of boost it puts out at how many rpm's.Then once it's installed dyno the motor to see what it's doing.What i do know that with turbo's and superchargers you should run a cam design for such.Plus for every lb of boost retard the timing on the ignition.Since that can't really be controlled on these motors.The other route would be to have a cam that's good enough to work with the turbo or supercharger.If the cam is to big and high in duration.Then most of the boost will be going right out of the exhaust.
What i was talking about in the vid.When the carb was breaking up when then person got on the throttle.It clean up cause it wasn't under any load.Once that person try to ride the bike.It's not going to go anywhere literally.LOL Ask me how i know.LOLOL Now this guy looks like he has his turbo working.But can't tell how badass it is.He's running by himself.Well it seems quick.:dunno:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzBY54iKLos&eurl=http://midbikenation.com/showthread.php?t=1422&page=8

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

its starting to haunt me, i think i dreamed about it all night
i wasnt really in a rush to get it ready for vir but i think thats changing
i wish it was warmer so i could finish the breakin

[swheels]

its starting to haunt me, i think i dreamed about it all night
i wasnt really in a rush to get it ready for vir but i think thats changing
i wish it was warmer so i could finish the breakinI hear ya on that.(IMO)That's something you wanna get on asap.So she would be perfectly tuned and running.You do not want to spend your time at VIR doing some major fixing and tuning.I've been there and done that it will haunt you even worst.LOL Believe me LOL.I know you'll make the best decision and put your best foot forward.thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya and i felt sorry for your situation, i still havent raced the best
swheels
i have come good and prepared, and if its not ready i wont bring it
its showtime not test and tune
i went and balled the block today, its good and broke in now
it needs some tuning now, but not too bad, you have to be above 4-5 rpm before you go wot or it will stumble, but then it pulls like crazy all the way to the top, which is pretty high and i didnt hear a floated valve either -yay-
maybe ill get the irk off today

[swheels]

ya and i felt sorry for your situation, i still havent raced the best
swheels
i have come good and prepared, and if its not ready i wont bring it
its showtime not test and tune
i went and balled the block today, its good and broke in now
it needs some tuning now, but not too bad, you have to be above 4-5 rpm before you go wot or it will stumble, but then it pulls like crazy all the way to the top, which is pretty high and i didnt hear a floated valve either -yay-
maybe ill get the irk off todayI want everybody to be at their best.So we can get some good battles going back and fourth.Well either way i know the laptimes are gonna be insane.thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

final pieces of the puzzle are done

[X7rocks]

nice! any pics of the turbo i really wanna see :D

[RomanianRacer]

final pieces of the puzzle are done

Holy......Cow that is one beautiful machine. Who made the custom blitz decal cause thats just awsome:phat:

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

thanks
i designed all the graphics for the bike
i wanted a race theme but i wanted my own custom set
so enter: Blitz Team Racing with The Blitz Ninja bluelaugh
the one on the tank is a ghetto sticker i made and the later versions are real vinyl i had printed
the blitz logo came from my sig in the Murder Inc days machinegun :yup:

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

got a new spark plug to be used with the turbo
its a twin fire, TFC9HSA
its the coldest plug i could find, should be good enough to deal with the extra heat
so looking at it i decided to try it out in the 146
i think its even better than the ngk i had
after 30 min of riding i didnt notice any loss of power
this motor spin up so aggressively...it made me laugh a few times

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i finally got the hybrid out of the street bike, and its going in the x15 as the new race motor and to serve as the turbo platform
so i go to put it in and it wont fit
the case in the area of the vent was so tall that it hit my frame and wouldnt let the bottom hole line up
i didnt want to compromise the frame so i decided to grind on the motor, i needed to get that edge at 90 degrees and about 3/8ths in depth
i figured if i 'struck' oil, id just jb weld it up, but it was thick and it went ok
had to do that at work so when i got it home i finally got the hybrid in the 15 frame
after much debate i decided to use the space under the tank, since there isnt a battery anymore, so it wont look like anything different
i need to cut a intake manifold in half then weld it back when its about 1.5 inches long, its aluminum so ill have to find someone who can do it

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well alot has changed since then
i put the 146 back in the 15 to serve as the main race motor for this year
i blew up the head last year and i finally got to order a new one, so im waiting for that
im sure ill get out powered by some of the better bikes but its not slow so i should be ok
i was gonna go with the 150 at first but decided id rather continue with the flywheel setup that ive been used to, and the 146 was already 'built'
so the 150 can be a backup motor, which ive proven you need sometimes
big thanks to vince at Tbolt for the parts

[swheels]

well alot has changed since then
i put the 146 back in the 15 to serve as the main race motor for this year
i blew up the head last year and i finally got to order a new one, so im waiting for that
im sure ill get out powered by some of the better bikes but its not slow so i should be ok
i was gonna go with the 150 at first but decided id rather continue with the flywheel setup that ive been used to, and the 146 was already 'built'
so the 150 can be a backup motor, which ive proven you need sometimes
big thanks to vince at Tbolt for the parts Your 146 ran like a beast! That's the only reason why i still have minds.LOL So when i get the chance i can do some work to it. As long as you can ride your bike i think you'll be fine.thumbsup2 After all me and Herbert did get BEAT by a BONE STOCK 110 in the midbike open class.bluelaugh
Also the Dublin track if,your making decent hp you'll be good to go. The corner speed and taking some good lines is key.The crf150r had us beat on hp all day long.The guy just didn't have good corner speed. Herbert's 184 felt like it had more power than my 165.I was just able to get a better drive and get on the throttle quicker than him.LOL He thinks he needs more hp.LOL I told him yeah that's it. So i'm thinking it's gonna backfire on him at the race in march.LOL

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

im thinking, what good is more hp when you cant max out what you already have?
not questioning you or your boys riding skills but thats a lot of power
i still have oh shit moments on the 146 so i know the 160 will just be worse, so im gonna baby step it
i bet ben spies would whoop us all on a stock 110, cause he ....well no scratch that, he would wreck a stock bike lol

[briansX19haulsass]

im thinking, what good is more hp when you cant max out what you already have?
not questioning you or your boys riding skills but thats a lot of power
i still have oh shit moments on the 146 so i know the 160 will just be worse, so im gonna baby step it
i bet ben spies would whoop us all on a stock 110, cause he ....well no scratch that, he would wreck a stock bike lol

Oh shit moments? like to much power? and the 160cc bbk?

[Monster_Bike1780]

Your 146 ran like a beast! That's the only reason why i still have minds.LOL So when i get the chance i can do some work to it. As long as you can ride your bike i think you'll be fine.thumbsup2 After all me and Herbert did get BEAT by a BONE STOCK 110 in the midbike open class.bluelaugh
Also the Dublin track if,your making decent hp you'll be good to go. The corner speed and taking some good lines is key.The crf150r had us beat on hp all day long.The guy just didn't have good corner speed. Herbert's 184 felt like it had more power than my 165.I was just able to get a better drive and get on the throttle quicker than him.LOL He thinks he needs more hp.LOL I told him yeah that's it. So i'm thinking it's gonna backfire on him at the race in march.LOL

lol especially the last couple turnsbluelaugh

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

brian,first time i raced at vir was with a nice 125 and stock suspension
there is a blind hill comming out of the hair pin, you see sky then you crest the hil and its a hard mostly flat left
there is a solid wall at the outskirt of the wall
ill just say im afraid of hitting the wall at speed
so anyway on bike 1 my rear end was hopping going up the blind so bad that i couldnt really get some monster speed
if you watch my onboard vid from that day you will see
by the time i hit the hard left i didnt really have to let off the gas much and no brake
the second time my bike was a built 146 and had the proper suspension done to it
going up the blind hill was so smooth and fast that i had to actually hit the brakes or i was gonna eat that wall i was going so fast
ask S, he'll tell you ive told him before, i might have been able to push it a tad bit harder but that wall is no joke at 35-40
so that was my oh shit momonet that day, and then when i almost hit devon
oh and when my front fender went flying LOL bang gone

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

here is 5000 words lol
almost ready, check out my secret plug
look at how much bigger the tm28mm carb is over the vm26, its huge
best pic i could get of this awesome piston
talked with the dyno guy today, its whenever

[swheels]

VEEEERYYYYY nice! That's one thing your bike is never neglected.thumbsup2
Looking forward to hitting up the track.rock2

[briansX19haulsass]

I know there was a huge difference in the size of my OKO 26mm carb and TB28mm carb. Looks good for sure. Check out my thread in a week Ill have my motor back.

Motor looks great Blitz!!!!!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

thanks S, im lookin to bring the pain with ya bra, maybe send some kids home crying and 'retire' a few bikes like you did with the red ysr bluelaugh
cool brian, i hope you get it and it runs fine, dont forget breakin and the proper oil, new rings are no joke
i went with the tm mikuni over any others bc its a flat slide, the tb 28 is just a bigger oval and prolly has less butt than my vm26 due to jetting
the flat isnt for the race motor yet tho

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i finally got the racehead on, it went good
i was saved from disaster when the cam roller bolt came out while it was runnung, i almost pooped ya know, i was able to take the round cover off and push it back in place and reinsert the bolt, and hey, this time i even tightened it
the vid is about 5-8 minutes after i started it back up
doing just a warmup then a retorque, you motor builders know
so far so good, looks like a small ex leak, some oil was burning off from the install too
the gas usage is insane, clear lines rock!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3qDkNcMtHs

[swheels]

Yeah F NICE!thumbsup2thumbsup2thumbsup2thumbsup2

[briansX19haulsass]

Nice Blitz! I cant wait to drag my upstairs and start it!

Looks Great!!!! And sounds good to! When are you going to put the 28mm carb on it?

[MotorHeadMike]

looks and sounds real sweet! Where did you get those clear fuel lines? They have to be anything special to not deteriorate from the gas?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

S, thanks dog, see ya soon hopefully
brian, i wasnt gonna put the 28flat on the 146, it was for the 160 i got for the x18, the vm26mm mikuni is no slouch as you can see in the vid
as a general rule i say keep your carb close to the size as your intake valve, but in this case, its ok
motor head mike, i got some at autozone and a pack at advance auto
they are like 2 ft long for 3-4 bux, i also got a shut-off

[RomanianRacer]

machinegunlooks good blitz!

Does the vm26 got any bog problems on bottom end? I heard they are real easy to jet though. There's a TM24 model, think that would run good on the race head? I wish they made a TM26.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

RR, nope they are tough on the botton too, the air fuel took care of that issue and i think i dropped the c clip a notch or two
the vm series of carbs are for racing, the tm is the flatslide evolution i believe, also for racing, ive always had good experiances with mikuni, i think you get what you pay for sometimes, id rather save longer and get better
if i can afford the dyno before the race we wil see if it is in fact running lean or rich, but prolly be after, the race is first

[briansX19haulsass]

S, thanks dog, see ya soon hopefully
brian, i wasnt gonna put the 28flat on the 146, it was for the 160 i got for the x18, the vm26mm mikuni is no slouch as you can see in the vid
as a general rule i say keep your carb close to the size as your intake valve, but in this case, its ok
motor head mike, i got some at autozone and a pack at advance auto
they are like 2 ft long for 3-4 bux, i also got a shut-off

going from your rule wouldnt you be running a 30mm carb:dunno: atleast a 28mm then haha

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

yes i looked and mikuni doesnt have a vm30 but there is a vm32 with like a 240 mainjet, thats gangster if you dont know, if i need it for the turbo i may get it but im gonna try the 28 flat in the 160 first
not really sure if the 28 flat would help the 146 alot over the vm26, i mean im sure it would, but not like oh i got to get that
the vm26 is proven bad to the bone on several occasions

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

changed the oil after the first run and there was a very small ball bearing in it, like bee bee size and silver
i had the cam roller bolt fly out while it was running cause i guess i forgot to tighten it, so the chain got loose but i got the roller back in place and it ran after that
im hoping the bearing came from the cam chain adjustment bolt with the spring and such
it could have come from the cam but i think those ball bearings are bigger than the one i found, maybe the chain roller has one that could have come out
anybody know?

[K-Pac]

Don't know the answer to yo question but do you still want the size of my exhaust? Your bike sounds amazing and I'm going to guess performs amazing.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

kpac, thank you, and yes id like the inside diameter (ID) at the head and anywhere else you can, thanks

[briansX19haulsass]

damn that really does suck Blitz. How did the motor perform? how many stars? and whats ur guess on HP

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i only just heat cycled it, id guess 14-15hp, time will tell
its ran before, its fast

[swheels]

Hey Blitz i don't recall the little cam wheel thingy having bearings in them.Atleast not the ones i've seen.They always had a metal sleeve in them.I can't even picture what could possily take a ball bearing that small in these motors.thinking_smilie

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

but the tensioner bolt on the bottom, the one that is spring loaded, is there a ball at the end of it?
i cant find a good exploded view and i dont wanna take the whole motor apart for something easy
anyone with a 125-140 can take theirs out and tell me the order

[briansX19haulsass]

The top of it where it hooks on to the cam sprocket does have those little ball bearings just checked for ya!thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

lol thanks but naw i think those are too big
what i found was like a .177bb size, silver
if you take out the angled bolt from the bottom of your motor (and dont roll it over) you will see where i think this ball lives, there is a bolt with a springloaded thing that keeps tension on the cam chain
the motor ran like this for at least 10min
i was gonna go check but i feel lazy now lol

[swheels]

Yeah i know what your talking about.I think those bearings are larger from what i last remember. I gonna have to look for my 146cc lying around buried in the garage. If i'm not busy tomorrow i'll crack it open again to take a look.

[briansX19haulsass]

Yeah i know what your talking about.I think those bearings are larger from what i last remember. I gonna have to look for my 146cc lying around buried in the garage. If i'm not busy tomorrow i'll crack it open again to take a look.

What does your 146cc motor have done to it?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well i tried hard to find the source of this BB, i checked diagrams, asked for help on the other place i go and nothing
so i took my tensioner out after i had it at tdc and everything looked normal there, i saw a ball in the metal piece with holes but no way for the one i had to go in that i saw
so i put it back together and checked the chain tightness, didnt feel like it was too lose so i took it out and started it, ran ok so i decided to go ride it
its a monster just like it was, i need more air/fuel i think but it ran like nothing is wrong and pulled nice, i think i still got the 17/28 on there too
its amazing what a difference a head makes
looks like the race is on

[swheels]

What does your 146cc motor have done to it?Some blinged out stator and clutch covers.(chromed very shiny)LOL. I didn't do anything to it. But it's on my list of things to do. Mod it out put it in a bike then sell it.thumbsup2

well i tried hard to find the source of this BB, i checked diagrams, asked for help on the other place i go and nothing
so i took my tensioner out after i had it at tdc and everything looked normal there, i saw a ball in the metal piece with holes but no way for the one i had to go in that i saw
so i put it back together and checked the chain tightness, didnt feel like it was too lose so i took it out and started it, ran ok so i decided to go ride it
its a monster just like it was, i need more air/fuel i think but it ran like nothing is wrong and pulled nice, i think i still got the 17/28 on there too
its amazing what a difference a head makes
looks like the race is on I tinkered a bit with a 110cc. I could not see where i bearing that size would have come from.Not even in the oil pump assembly.thinking_smilie But i'm glad to hear she ok. thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well after a nice trip to GA i decided to take the bike out and run the gas out and get it ready for a few month storage, look it over and fix the stuff that broke, not alot but some stuff
i noticed my oil catch was leaking oil so i took it off and it had a good bit of oil in there, maybe i overfilled it or the high rpm shot it out
so then i notice that oil is comming from my ex port at the header where apparently there is a small air leak
when i rev it, oil squirts out....wtf is that?
could the rings have gone bad? or walked around? or maybe the headgasket, its been reused like 4-5 times lol, valve seals, the heads new
im not sure, anyone know?
the motor runs great but i guess ill be taking it apart to see whats up
the valve is not stuck open i can almost bet on that, i checked the tappet at the track, it had alot of play

[Unproracer]

pull the plug, are you burning oil? smokes when it runs, when its cold? hot, sometimes? plugs blacked with burn oil and heavy carbon? bets on the 5x used HG. Rings blow by into the crank case, unless your breather is recirculated i dont think that would be it.

get it hot, take off the pipe and carb/intake, look at the valves w/ a flashlight, if oils on top of them its seals.

[swheels]

Check the exhaust valve tappet cover.It might be running down from there on to where the header bolts into the head.I had that problem one time..........Your motor ran fine at the track no smokin what so ever.thumbsup2

[briansX19haulsass]

well after a nice trip to GA i decided to take the bike out and run the gas out and get it ready for a few month storage, look it over and fix the stuff that broke, not alot but some stuff
i noticed my oil catch was leaking oil so i took it off and it had a good bit of oil in there, maybe i overfilled it or the high rpm shot it out
so then i notice that oil is comming from my ex port at the header where apparently there is a small air leak
when i rev it, oil squirts out....wtf is that?
could the rings have gone bad? or walked around? or maybe the headgasket, its been reused like 4-5 times lol, valve seals, the heads new
im not sure, anyone know?
the motor runs great but i guess ill be taking it apart to see whats up
the valve is not stuck open i can almost bet on that, i checked the tappet at the track, it had alot of play

Blitz I have the same problem with my race head too! I se a drip come of it maybe every 6 hours very little but still. It is coming right from the ex valve cover. So I took it off, inspected the seal, look fine and put it back on where the little leak continue. I think the race head may have bigger valve tappets and the same valve covers as the BVH is making it leak because they are to small......

[swheels]

Blitz I have the same problem with my race head too! I se a drip come of it maybe every 6 hours very little but still. It is coming right from the ex valve cover. So I took it off, inspected the seal, look fine and put it back on where the little leak continue. I think the race head may have bigger valve tappets and the same valve covers as the BVH is making it leak because they are to small......No that means the tappet cover is not sealing properly.

Blitz just put a little gasket sealent.thumbsup2

[briansX19haulsass]

I will do the same S... Just at the bottom though!thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya i pulled the tappet cover off at the track cuz i heard a noise i knew was bad so i had to rule that out
no it really seems to be shooting out the frankinpipe lol, it has a 1/4 in long spacer i cut off a big socket to make it work so it always kinda had a air leak but no big deal
i havent had time to look at it yet

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well got to prepping the bike for the upcomming events
ive enhanced my ergos which gave me problems last time
i also added a linkage shift kit so i can mash my down shift and dig under for the upshift
i decided to try the tm28mm carb i got for the 160, since it was being a beeotch about fitting in the 18
so i got it in the but at a bad angle, if you turned left just a bit gas would shoot out a vent
so right now i am cutting on the frame and notching for it to fit, i ran it breifly and it was impressive
the vm26 was nice but i bet this 28 will feed the racehead much better
so prolly not this wkend boys but soon

[briansX19haulsass]

Ya I like my tb28mm carb on my 30/23.5 race head. Always did feed it very good

[swheels]

well got to prepping the bike for the upcomming events
ive enhanced my ergos which gave me problems last time
i also added a linkage shift kit so i can mash my down shift and dig under for the upshift
i decided to try the tm28mm carb i got for the 160, since it was being a beeotch about fitting in the 18
so i got it in the but at a bad angle, if you turned left just a bit gas would shoot out a vent
so right now i am cutting on the frame and notching for it to fit, i ran it breifly and it was impressive
the vm26 was nice but i bet this 28 will feed the racehead much better
so prolly not this wkend boys but soonDam banghead And i changed my front wheel yesterday too.banghead LOL

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

sorry dog, ain nuttin up but tha rent son
in 2 weeks i can almost promise a saturday, less somebody dies
you needed to change that tire anyway oldman

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

so ive decided that im gonna use this tm28 on my 146
its a pain in the azz, why cant anything be easy
i got a 12 point thing and it worked but when i did a intake leak check i had lots
so plan B :grind:
you can see my notch and my dog checkin out my cheese bread, wife was gone so i could make a mess lol

[briansX19haulsass]

Had to do the same thing last year to get the oko 26mm to face forward....

Never noticed you had a x18 kick stand on the bike...

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

success, got it on there perfect and straight
i went ahead and dropped the clip while i was at it, you know me, runner rich
my fuel route is so much better now too, there should be no lag spots
it says not for aircraft use but i bet it will fly :biggrin:
is there jet kits for this carb? i assume there are
brian, i cut off the x15 kicker and put a x18 one thats bolted to the motor, i also beat the angle and 'lifted' the kick stand to give my bike an option at the track that even they cant argue with, it tucks up under the belly

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ok im bummed, all that work to get the carb in and early today i got to ride it
it was weak on top like the main jet needed to be bigger and it idled ok but the mid was choppy too
so i changed the plug to a different one that i thought might make a difference and changed the carb adjustments
figured id go test ride again and my kick shaft had made some pops before but ive been able to keep it to a minimum, but today my whole shaft was doing a 360 easy before catching weakly, so i figure thats stripping out
i tried the ol pop the clutch while rolling and that aint happening
so, im kinda sad, i REALLY dont wanna split any cases, but then again i cant just shit a new motor
im thinking i might go ahead and put the 160 in the 15, i was gonna wait but i refuse to be out of racing so i dont wanna be in a situation at the track where i cant start my bike cause my kick shaft wont work at all
Nutty-Rant angry_red banghead Nutty-Rant
im a little bummed
well hey i still got a shot so its all good
S, my brother, great talking to you about our other intrests
as i see it, im 1-2 against you with my win comming at the hook, so it will be interesting to see if i can defend my 'hook' title from you, or if youve trained hard and put on past performances like vir and mgkt where you were dominant
might hafta at least get a 184 to keep you honest lol

[swheels]

ok im bummed, all that work to get the carb in and early today i got to ride it
it was weak on top like the main jet needed to be bigger and it idled ok but the mid was choppy too
so i changed the plug to a different one that i thought might make a difference and changed the carb adjustments
figured id go test ride again and my kick shaft had made some pops before but ive been able to keep it to a minimum, but today my whole shaft was doing a 360 easy before catching weakly, so i figure thats stripping out
i tried the ol pop the clutch while rolling and that aint happening
so, im kinda sad, i REALLY dont wanna split any cases, but then again i cant just shit a new motor
im thinking i might go ahead and put the 160 in the 15, i was gonna wait but i refuse to be out of racing so i dont wanna be in a situation at the track where i cant start my bike cause my kick shaft wont work at all
Nutty-Rant angry_red banghead Nutty-Rant
im a little bummed
well hey i still got a shot so its all good
S, my brother, great talking to you about our other intrests
as i see it, im 1-2 against you with my win comming at the hook, so it will be interesting to see if i can defend my 'hook' title from you, or if youve trained hard and put on past performances like vir and mgkt where you were dominant
might hafta at least get a 184 to keep you honest lolDAM! I'm sorry to hear this man.
Yeah that'll be a good match up. There's no tight corners for me to take advantage of at the hook.Dang it! LOL I will be well rested before the race and eager to fight.
Always a pleasure talking to ya bro, on and off the track.
Oh and i will try to get pass you as soon as i can.Cuz i really gotta try and get Luise and that DAM 72cc Derbi powered x12.LOL

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well you gotta beat me to the hairpin at the end of the bank, its not as long as mgkt, your cam aint got enough time to come on
course i know youll just keep it redlined just in case with your fancy wheel-spin-pass abilities
then again if i run the 160 who knows what ill do, i need to granny roll it till i get the hang, i wanna go fast off the back to much
gl to catching luigi, ill be happy if i dont get lapped lol
now i need yx parts, dang
i normally would recommend getting a head upgrade first as opposed to a bbk, but the stock yx head looks really good, the roller plus cam plus domed piston is way more than a 184 kit and medium comp piston
i got a ork so low end is important to me, unless you just suck on the straight, the corner exit wins races
seen it, had it done to me

[swheels]

I'mma try real hard to run with him.thumbsup2 For the hook i plan on staying high in the revs. I guess there is a few turns i'll need to spin the wheel if i'm trying to square up a rider to try and pass.thinking_smilie
I do have a plan and feel i will do waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better this time around.

Just gotta go out there and twist the throttle till she goes BANG!
Here's the real F'ed up part,i can't say well i need to be faster here and here.Because i was slow sucked around the whole dam track.bluelaughbluelaugh

[briansX19haulsass]

Damn blitz sucks to hear. But I guess that kind of intituative separtes us from the other pocket bike people if something breaks....... We fiz it not got buy a new one.

Good luck on what ever you do man!

[shaq93]

yea, that sucks but you are a smart guy and im sure you can pull something together. i wish i had your skills

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well lucky for me i got another motor
im a victem of my own philosphy: if your bike is running good, leave it alone
i swear i just had to go against that angry_red
ow well its big motor time
the kick shaft requires the whole motor taken apart

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

got the 160 in, i can run either carb no problem facing forward, gotta rework the rear sets so the kicker clears, or else i just may bend it a bit
only thing that was like Nutty-Rant was the pipe
so thats what i did today, cut and shape, swivel if you will