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Blitz$M.Inc.$
09-24-2007, 06:20 PM
i finally settled on the tires im gonna get this week
i looked at alot of sizes and i wanted to get as close to our natural size as possible while having a high race potential, and the maxxis won for me
the front tire is
http://www.bikebandit.com/product/3692
and the rear tire is
http://www.bikebandit.com/product/3689

the sizes are 100/90-10 130/70-10
im stoked, i hope i get a sticker
i hope these will stick to the road if i get to race it

Holeshotz Performance
09-24-2007, 06:32 PM
I have that setup on my bike, great tires i really like them. I run maxxis tires on all my atv's and bikes and they wear nice and hold up real well.

Blitz$M.Inc.$
09-24-2007, 06:41 PM
sweet, im glad i chose good, they are cheap too like 70 bux shipped
you should stock these if you dont already

Holeshotz Performance
09-24-2007, 06:44 PM
sweet, im glad i chose good, they are cheap too like 70 bux shipped
you should stock these if you dont already


I'm trying to but its super hard to get a dealer account directly with maxxis, you need to meet a crazy amount of requirements so for now i'm going to try and get them from a maxxis supplier

55IsABigLie
09-24-2007, 09:08 PM
That is SICK. I want it!! rock2

boss
09-24-2007, 10:35 PM
I like em!

Midbike Racer
09-25-2007, 01:07 AM
We need a full report when they are on and you test em.
rock2

redryderaus
09-25-2007, 01:41 AM
Yep, full report. Tires are a real sticking point for us at the moment, so hopefully these will work well for you.

Cheers,

red

schofell84
09-25-2007, 07:56 AM
tons of tire reviews, 10" and 12"

tires (http://www.planetminis.com/f18/)

55IsABigLie
09-25-2007, 11:15 AM
Yep, full report. Tires are a real sticking point for us at the moment, so hopefully these will work well for you.

Cheers,

red

Hahahah...Good one man. hangloose

redryderaus
09-25-2007, 01:36 PM
I'm glad someone got my little pun! cheers11

Cheers,

red

Blitz$M.Inc.$
09-27-2007, 03:03 PM
the tires are ordered! bluelaugh

swheels
09-27-2007, 03:08 PM
the tires are ordered! bluelaughGreat so we will follow your lead.thumbsup2Although i plan on comimng with extra rims with tires mounted up and ready to go.I hope us midbike/superbike guys get our own class.Athough i just want to be out on the track no matter what.

Blitz$M.Inc.$
09-27-2007, 03:13 PM
follow my lead...all the way into the wall hahahahaha

55IsABigLie
09-27-2007, 03:19 PM
the tires are ordered! bluelaugh

Did you end up with the Maxxis after all, Blitz? :)

jmkapala
09-27-2007, 03:28 PM
I Likey Dem Tires!!!!!

Blitz$M.Inc.$
09-27-2007, 08:18 PM
yes i didnt get them from the links
they were 70 shipped for both
http://www.newenoughhp.com/parts/tires/maxxis/m6114_scooter_tires.html?s=a

rene13
09-28-2007, 03:24 PM
I was either thinking of going with the Maxxis or Michelin, since I turning my bike into a show bike, but it's still a daily driver I want the tread to match here are the sizes and rating for the Michelin S1
SIZES Load Index & Speed Rating
3.00 - 10 42J
3.50 - 10 51J
90/90 - 10 50J
100/80 - 10 53J
100/90 - 10 56J
110/80 - 10 58J
130/70 - 10 62J

Blitz$M.Inc.$
09-28-2007, 04:57 PM
i just got emailed that the tires are not in stock and wont be until december
so my order was cancelled
so i found another site
hoping

jmkapala
09-28-2007, 10:23 PM
i just got emailed that the tires are not in stock and wont be until december
so my order was cancelled
so i found another site
hoping

That sucks man.....let us know about the other site..if that comes through

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-06-2007, 02:02 PM
i got the rear tire today
all i can say is wow, its a nice tire
its very close to our size too
very soft rubber, mmmmm
i had a VERY hard time trying to get this mounted
nobody wanted to do it and i finally got it done at a lawnmower place
it cost me 10.50 and the saddest news of all is that the bead broke on the tire going on
it wobbles uncontrollably and isnt rideable
i went to harbor freight like glenn said and they didnt have a tire changer or so the guy says
so i gotta still get another tire, and find out how to mount them safely
i was think the honda dealer?

swheels
10-06-2007, 02:30 PM
Yeah it's a great tire and it looks great to!......Did the guy putting it on the rim use the soapy water technique?If he did the shouldn't have happened he must have beat the crap out of the tire trying to get it on.Did you see what he was doing?

redryderaus
10-06-2007, 03:14 PM
Fitting tires is dead easy with the correct tools and technique. I've fitted tires on everything from 4" rims to 18" rims using nothing more than three motorcycle tire levers ($7ea from any motorcycle shop) and a bottle of dishwashing detergent and I've never damaged a tire or rim.

Most of the times that I see people having trouble is they are either trying to do it with screwdrivers and/or they are trying to get too much on in one go.

Shame to hear about your tire, Blitz. Hopefully your next one won't get destroyed.

Cheers,

red

redryderaus
10-06-2007, 03:16 PM
Here's the tire levers. I can't put it strongly enough that using the wrong tools will cost you far more than the price of the correct tools.

red

The Nutty Professor
10-06-2007, 06:12 PM
i got the rear tire today
all i can say is wow, its a nice tire
its very close to our size too
very soft rubber, mmmmm
i had a VERY hard time trying to get this mounted
nobody wanted to do it and i finally got it done at a lawnmower place
it cost me 10.50 and the saddest news of all is that the bead broke on the tire going on
it wobbles uncontrollably and isnt rideable
i went to harbor freight like glenn said and they didnt have a tire changer or so the guy says
so i gotta still get another tire, and find out how to mount them safely
i was think the honda dealer?

I can almost quarantee the guy used a tire iron or crowbar to mount the tire. I bet if you take the tire off there are gouge marks on the inside of the rim. I'd ask for your money back and at least half of the cost of the tire. All they can say is no. Three tire changes and it's about paid for itself. twocents

swheels
10-08-2007, 03:29 PM
I found some slicks but the size is like 3.50-10 i think that translate to 90-90-10.But there full slicks.I've even found some what think would be great rain tires.Huuuummmmmmmmthinking_smilie should i share O alright.Oh also found out that goodrich makes a 10'' tire now get this it's for a motorcycle trailer.The one that the cruiser bikes sometimess pull that has a single rear wheel.These tires in the pic are made by SAVA although i think there closest size for our bikes is 170-90-10 and for the front is a 80-90-10.Well you guy's will see once you click on the link.I'm not saying which tire i'll be running but i will say it won't be a sava.I got play my cards close.But i think i'm gonna run a qualifying tire then switch to the race tires.thinking_smiliestirthepotboxing11
http://www.pannonsports.com/store/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=1

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-08-2007, 06:08 PM
170/90r10 would be huge
i thought the maxxis would be somewhat smaller because its a 130/70r10 and the stock size is 145/50R10
WRONG
the maxxis is right beefy and is nearly identical in size
90/90r10 or '3 1/2' should be the perfect size for the front
no way im racing in rain
or snow tires lol
i ordered another rear tire and the front should be here wed
i also found a reliable place to get the tire changed
a motorcycle shop that also sells scooters AND has a service department
the bad part is its 25 bux to mount one, but.....f it

redryderaus
10-09-2007, 02:06 PM
Interesting that the 130/70 is nearly identical. It should make tire selection a bit easier.

170/90?? Strewth, my VTR1000 runs a 180 rear and it's huge on that. speechless33

Cheers,

red

swheels
10-09-2007, 03:05 PM
170/90r10 would be huge
i thought the maxxis would be somewhat smaller because its a 130/70r10 and the stock size is 145/50R10
WRONG
the maxxis is right beefy and is nearly identical in size
90/90r10 or '3 1/2' should be the perfect size for the front
no way im racing in rain
or snow tires lol
i ordered another rear tire and the front should be here wed
i also found a reliable place to get the tire changed
a motorcycle shop that also sells scooters AND has a service department
the bad part is its 25 bux to mount one, but.....f it If the 70 size side wall is close i'm willing to sacrifice a i bit taller sidewall for a stickier better performing tire.Besides it will more than likely be my qualifing tire.For my race tire it will be a medium compound 130-70-10 along with a nice front not sure of the compound since i'm hard on the front tires.I'm pretty sure it will be a nice sticky front just incase i have to ride like a bat outta hell.boxing11

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-09-2007, 05:57 PM
what do you have to do to qualify?
just turn a fast time alone?

swheels
10-09-2007, 06:16 PM
what do you have to do to qualify?
just turn a fast time alone?Yep.I like to start in the back of the grid.i think this time i'm gonna aim for the 2nd row if possible.So far it seems like it's gonna be over 10 SUPERBIKES!speechless33 I hope they don't split the superbikes up into different classes.That way everbody gets to run against everybody.I hope everybody shows up it will be great to meet all you guys.Then hopefully next year the newly formed race team, team old geezer's(Myself and Nutty P) will show in full force.To put the smack down on the youngin's.LOL boxing11Poke12LOL By then i still should remember how to start my bike.LOL

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-11-2007, 06:08 PM
got the front maxxis
way different than the stock size
my bike is raised up like a inch in the front
this tire is even more sticky than the back one
it squeeks just rolling it
i got it put on right this time and the new rear should be here tomorrow
these tires are directional and dot rated
it says its for GP racing
im trying to get over the size but i like it, oh and no more front fender

swheels
10-11-2007, 06:38 PM
I like it! i'm not sure about the arc though.It sorta gives the illusion that the front rim is bigger.With the side walls be that tall it scrape the front lower fairing on my bike.Damn! Hopefully the tire i'm going for has less of a side wall(2.75)

swanni06
10-11-2007, 08:24 PM
Can you get a good front tire that will allow you to KEEP the fender on?

schofell84
10-11-2007, 08:30 PM
yikes, those sidewalls are huge. looks like its gonna add a lot of unsprung weight. Its probably better than stock still, though.

The Nutty Professor
10-11-2007, 11:10 PM
Yeah Schofell not just unsprung weight. Blitz when you first ride the bike fast and throw it into a turn (If you haven't already). The bike is going to feel "mushy" that's the side walls flexing more than you're use too. First time it happened to me it was the back and it felt like the seat was made of jello. About the front fender. I think I read an article in Road Race World stating that the front fender helps direct air into the radiator. Of course these bike don't have them but I would think you would need to direct as much air as possible to the fins on the motor? twocents

stuntnx7
10-11-2007, 11:29 PM
are thos x7 rims

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-12-2007, 04:00 AM
im workin on a bracket mod that will allow the front fender
the maxxis tires are heavier, not alot tho
these are x15 rims
the sidewalls are taller than id like, but if i can lean farther than the rest (and stick) itll be worth it

swheels
10-12-2007, 08:40 AM
Blitz i admire your commitment to make your bike better for the track.thumbsup2 COMMITMENT one of the biggest steps and the hardest to take towards winning.thumbsup2

redryderaus
10-12-2007, 02:42 PM
Wasn't there a post a while back of brackets that wrapped around the fork legs and allowed you to fit the fender anywhere on the forks?

Cheers,

red

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-12-2007, 08:15 PM
alright both tires are on and ive rode it
this is one smooth ride now
the steering is different, these tires will take you where you point them
they feel like turns are natural i dont know it feels good to me lol
i got the front fender on no sweat, had to relocate my intake tho
it looks cool still
i did two laps and then came back and checked on things
i noticed the front tire was getting warm in the center tread
that tire is so sticky i cant believe it stays together
i notice bumps less and turns where my rear kicks out and breaks traction i even noticed that was lessened
satisfied so far with the Maxxis attaxxis

swheels
10-12-2007, 08:47 PM
Real nice i like them.To me since the x15 has such a long wheelbase those tire appears to make it look shorter.You've got to be happy.thumbsup2rock2

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-12-2007, 09:12 PM
well technically, my wheel base shrunk by a inch, the over all lenth of the bike grew by a inch, and the windshield height grew by a inch as well
this is for anybody who wants more tire options than stock thumbsup2

swanni06
10-12-2007, 11:20 PM
looks good bro, good jobthumbsup2

schofell84
10-13-2007, 05:49 AM
i made you a painting ... its sexual ... and violent.

The Nutty Professor
10-13-2007, 06:51 AM
i made you a painting ... its sexual ... and violent.

You sure you're on the right forum? Sounds kind of crazy_smilie to me LOLOLOLOL. Got be inside huh?

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-13-2007, 08:09 AM
well we knew from pbp that he wasnt right rolleye0010

redryderaus
10-13-2007, 01:33 PM
well technically, my wheel base shrunk by a inch,

Incorrect. Wheelbase is measured axle to axle. Changing tires has no effect on wheelbase at all. It will, however, affect steering geometry and the way the bike tips in due to the different profile of the tires.

Sounds like those tires are working well for you, though. Now you just need to get some heat right across them and start wearing out your knee sliders! thumbsup2

Cheers,

red

redryderaus
10-13-2007, 01:47 PM
Speaking of tire heat I remember seeing a website selling tire warmers for racing scooters. Maybe we need to get some for our mids. bluelaugh

Cheers,

red

swheels
10-13-2007, 01:54 PM
I was thinking about that.Being how the races in nov.

kevin@holeshotz
10-13-2007, 04:33 PM
Speaking of tire heat I remember seeing a website selling tire warmers for racing scooters. Maybe we need to get some for our mids. bluelaugh

Cheers,

red

We are not going fast enough to need tire warmers, lol.

I was thinking about that.Being how the races in nov.

Ride your bike one lap, pull off and feel your tires (even if its 30 degrees out). They will be hot, trust me.

schofell84
10-13-2007, 05:11 PM
the quote is from wedding crashers guys ... sheesh


just tryin to lighten the mood after the nx incidentspam_smilie

but yeah, ride the shiz out them tires! see how they hold up.

swheels
10-13-2007, 05:20 PM
We are not going fast enough to need tire warmers, lol.



Ride your bike one lap, pull off and feel your tires (even if its 30 degrees out). They will be hot, trust me.Yeah your right i'm starting to over think this thing.LOL Strong desire to do good.

The Nutty Professor
10-13-2007, 05:47 PM
the quote is from wedding crashers guys ... sheesh




OH! Didn't see it. Kind of not much into movies except Faster and The Doctor, The Tornado, and The Kentucky Kid. Those I'm still waiting to see bows_smilie

swanni06
10-13-2007, 06:58 PM
i made you a painting ... its sexual ... and violent.

LMAO..that was a great movie lol
thumbsup2

redryderaus
10-14-2007, 04:23 AM
We are not going fast enough to need tire warmers, lol.


I know, but you've gotta look the part! thumbsup2

Cheers,

red

55IsABigLie
10-14-2007, 01:07 PM
i finally settled on the tires im gonna get this week
i looked at alot of sizes and i wanted to get as close to our natural size as possible while having a high race potential, and the maxxis won for me
the front tire is
http://www.bikebandit.com/product/3692
and the rear tire is
http://www.bikebandit.com/product/3689

the sizes are 100/90-10 130/70-10
im stoked, i hope i get a sticker
i hope these will stick to the road if i get to race it

Blitz- I think this is the next upgrade I wanna do. As I recall the tire spec on stock X18 was 140mm? (i think?)

Is 130 the closest you can get..or a performance thing, or what? Thx.

--55

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-14-2007, 04:54 PM
the rear tire is the exact size (visually)
the front is bigger in the sidewall which is better for cornering

55IsABigLie
10-14-2007, 05:48 PM
the rear tire is the exact size (visually)
the front is bigger in the sidewall which is better for cornering

I read somewhere (was it here?) a technique to get the tires on. cool_shades

1) Take dish soap and rub it on the entire rim (and inside tire lip?). Put the tire on the rim (no air), and get your air compressor ready.

2) Take a 3ft length of rope and tie it around the center of the tire tread all the way around. Squeeze it to force the sidewalls outward onto the rim, then fill the tire with a little air. The sides should snap onto the rim and you can tell from the soap if you have any leaks. If you do, you basically use more dish soap and try again with the air.

3) In the end, you just have to clean up the soap so you don't slip and die.

Its supposed to work.

-55

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-15-2007, 04:12 AM
thats how you seat the bead, with the string
the soap is for putting the tire on the rim, its very hard
the guys that did mine had to spoon them on, spoons are big bad levers like a screwdriver but specialized

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-15-2007, 04:35 AM
anybody (glenn) want this old maxxis tire with the busted bead?
good for testing the rubber
free + shipping

swheels
10-15-2007, 07:18 AM
anybody (glenn) want this old maxxis tire with the busted bead?
good for testing the rubber
free + shipping
What are you talking about busted.You take you some rv gasket maker spread it around the inner rim(both sides and you have to have the tire on the rim but no air in it)let it cure just a little.Then viola like nothing was ever wrong with the tire.b_s Don't try that i just made it up.But if it was my tire i would try that though.LOL

The Nutty Professor
10-15-2007, 08:17 AM
anybody (glenn) want this old maxxis tire with the busted bead?
good for testing the rubber
free + shipping

Appreciate the offer Blitz but I'm going to be slowing down the tire lab for a little while as I build my bike. I've got plenty of rubber to work with and the stock tire isn't going to last to long boxing11 so I'll have that to work with. Again thank_s

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-15-2007, 01:55 PM
S, if you coulda seen how it rode...lol
maybe a tube would work
the x6 came with tube tires

swheels
10-15-2007, 02:33 PM
S, if you coulda seen how it rode...lol
maybe a tube would work
the x6 came with tube tiresTheres that possibility.How much for shipping.LOL I'll get down to the bottom of this.

55IsABigLie
10-15-2007, 05:59 PM
What are you talking about busted.You take you some rv gasket maker spread it around the inner rim(both sides and you have to have the tire on the rim but no air in it)let it cure just a little.Then viola like nothing was ever wrong with the tire.b_s Don't try that i just made it up.But if it was my tire i would try that though.LOL

LOL, SWheels- I was like WHUT!- Is he looking to die in the first corner?? speechless33

Seriously, just a word of caution to everyone- tires are incredibly complex pieces of engineering- I should know- I use to work with a lot of seriously qualified engineers. NEVER play those kinds of games with a motor-driven tire- tire repair is for highly qualified experts, period. I also happened to have watched one of the NAM tour videos from the nations largest tire remanufacturer (retreads) and that actual work is done by a few very skilled workers who have been doing it for 30 years. Otherwise, the results would be catastrophic accidents. (!)

In short- DON'T even think about it.


Ok anyway...Blitz:

Will the rear Maxxis tire fit the stock suspension and set-up on X18?

Clearly you have raised suspension on the front and higher clearance for the front maxxis tire. Dunno if I wanna do that.

--55

swheels
10-15-2007, 06:35 PM
LOL, SWheels- I was like WHUT!- Is he looking to die in the first corner?? speechless33

Seriously, just a word of caution to everyone- tires are incredibly complex pieces of engineering- I should know- I use to work with a lot of seriously qualified engineers. NEVER play those kinds of games with a motor-driven tire- tire repair is for highly qualified experts, period. I also happened to have watched one of the NAM tour videos from the nations largest tire remanufacturer (retreads) and that actual work is done by a few very skilled workers who have been doing it for 30 years. Otherwise, the results would be catastrophic accidents. (!)

In short- DON'T even think about it.


Ok anyway...Blitz:

Will the rear Maxxis tire fit the stock suspension and set-up on X18?

Clearly you have raised suspension on the front and higher clearance for the front maxxis tire. Dunno if I wanna do that.

--55Oh i know about blowouts.LOL i 3 one front tire just coming out of a turn.The 2nd the rear tire just coming out of a turn.Third foolin about in a parking lot right after it rained grab a fist full of throttle(threads were all ready showing)then POP.I thought the bike back fired or something.LOL the rear got real mushy.OH my tire.I ride them till they pop i figure if it's gonna happen there's nothing you can do but go through with it.dunno

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-15-2007, 06:36 PM
yes the rear tire will fit with no mods
the suspension is not raised on my front, it is the difference in height of the tires, my 15 is as tall as my 18 now
i had to move my fender up some to clear
it rides very different now, i rode my 18 to compare
i do a salohm? in the road as i ride and try to get tight bends
the 18 feels stiff and hits its limit hard kinda pushing you back
the maxxis was almost scary cuz i wasnt ready for it, they feel real cushy like you can keep on leaning, i almost couldnt stop cuz i was expecting the push
but this is comming from an inexperianced racer

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-15-2007, 06:41 PM
ill bring it to the race S
it 'should' work as it just wont hold air long on its own
if the tube doesnt distort the sidewall your good to go, well...till the bang bluelaugh
i know you aint scared, your bringing those bald azz tires to race aint ya?

swheels
10-15-2007, 07:02 PM
ill bring it to the race S
it 'should' work as it just wont hold air long on its own
if the tube doesnt distort the sidewall your good to go, well...till the bang bluelaugh
i know you aint scared, your bringing those bald azz tires to race aint ya?Ah my lucky tires.LOL i burnt up my back slick like an idiot saturday.I was suppose to be saving that tire too.But it felt so good to sliding the rear around the turns i couldn't resist.I'll never get another tir like that on one D**M

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-15-2007, 08:32 PM
well you can have my old 15 tire, its still got tread
slightly dryrotted

55IsABigLie
10-16-2007, 05:22 PM
yes the rear tire will fit with no mods
the suspension is not raised on my front, it is the difference in height of the tires, my 15 is as tall as my 18 now
i had to move my fender up some to clear
it rides very different now, i rode my 18 to compare
i do a salohm? in the road as i ride and try to get tight bends
the 18 feels stiff and hits its limit hard kinda pushing you back
the maxxis was almost scary cuz i wasnt ready for it, they feel real cushy like you can keep on leaning, i almost couldnt stop cuz i was expecting the push
but this is comming from an inexperianced racer

I'm drooling over that phat ass rear maxxis tire. pimp1
That front though, just looks weird (!)..I'm still learning to ride this thing-
Would you recommend a beginner moving up?

(Hey- X18Pocket- you seeing this? Whatcha think?)

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-16-2007, 05:54 PM
be careful learning
you can get a lower pro tire in the front, this is what maxxis had
its ok with me cuz i can lean without worry of rim scrape
and when you hit a bump it kinda bottoms out on the front? well it dont do that now
it doesnt look as cool as the low pro tho, you have to decide what kind of performance/look you want from your bike

55IsABigLie
10-16-2007, 06:55 PM
be careful learning
you can get a lower pro tire in the front, this is what maxxis had
its ok with me cuz i can lean without worry of rim scrape
and when you hit a bump it kinda bottoms out on the front? well it dont do that now
it doesnt look as cool as the low pro tho, you have to decide what kind of performance/look you want from your bike

I was thinking the same thing- use the maxxis on the rear and try to find something lower profile on the front. My worry would be this: will that cause dangerous performance differences that could get me into trouble?

For example, if I left the front and changed the rear to Maxxis- that could change the front/rear grip capabilities, etc...banghead

swheels
10-16-2007, 07:07 PM
I was thinking the same thing- use the maxxis on the rear and try to find something lower profile on the front. My worry would be this: will that cause dangerous performance differences that could get me into trouble?

For example, if I left the front and changed the rear to Maxxis- that could change the front/rear grip capabilities, etc...bangheadYes it could.A stickier tire on the rear would could cause the front to push.Which the front will push even with the stock tire from my experience

The Nutty Professor
10-16-2007, 07:42 PM
It will be different but you'll learn to ride it. Think of it like (Very simple explanation I know but K.I.S.S.) this if you used two tires with the same compound it would handle a certain way. Use the same tire but with different compounds front to rear it will feel different. We're basically talking about the same thing with one exception. The tires are designed to work together even if the compounds are different. 2 different brands will (Probably) have different profiles not designed to work together, BUT...getting use to the way two different tires feel should take a little while but once you do it might be just the ticket dunno

stuntnx7
10-16-2007, 07:52 PM
id like some if they were not so tall and plus so they wouldnt be as heavy bcuz i have a stock engine and i wanna be able to ride wheelies in 4th gear still

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-17-2007, 04:31 AM
id like some if they were not so tall and plus so they wouldnt be as heavy bcuz i have a stock engine and i wanna be able to ride wheelies in 4th gear still

nah you dont need them for stunting
i got mine for the race, my stock tires wouldnt have lasted
the tread is different on my two but its ok

swheels
10-30-2007, 04:10 PM
Got my tire in got it mounted up or atleast tried.There's one part of the inner rim that the lip of the tire can't seem to make it over.So theres a gap between the tire and inner lip of the rim and i'm pissed.angry_redI tried everying glass cleaner,soapy water even laundry detergent(and you know that stuff is slippery) and nothing worked.My next step is to take it off and try anther rim.If that don't work i'll be rollin around the track on a wobbly a$$ tire.I know it's not the tire because i rotated the tire around the trim only to find the same gap in the same spot on the rim.banghead

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-30-2007, 04:30 PM
it wont seat?
my rear tire lost air on the way home from its mounting
i thought it was busted but i started to put in air anyway and it was leaking from the bead in one spot
there was alot of slippery gunk on it
i kinda cleaned it up and aired it up again till it just stopped leaking, i put alot more air than your supposed to
alot more
but it held and its still holding today(under normal pressure)
it just needed to seat/seal
if you need a wheel i gotcha
nobody will come with me
im gonna need help just unloading my shiz

swheels
10-30-2007, 05:26 PM
it wont seat?
my rear tire lost air on the way home from its mounting
i thought it was busted but i started to put in air anyway and it was leaking from the bead in one spot
there was alot of slippery gunk on it
i kinda cleaned it up and aired it up again till it just stopped leaking, i put alot more air than your supposed to
alot more
but it held and its still holding today(under normal pressure)
it just needed to seat/seal
if you need a wheel i gotcha
nobody will come with me
im gonna need help just unloading my shizThats it it won't seat.Well i'm gonna have to take you up on that stock tire.It'll be my last resort but i will get this tire mounted up properly.angry_red

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-30-2007, 06:57 PM
ok front or rear?
and i also have the 18s whole wheel too

swheels
10-30-2007, 07:10 PM
ok front or rear?
and i also have the 18s whole wheel tooJust the rear.Man i gotta say these tires are not worth my troubles side wall to stiff great tire but ''F''it.

Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-30-2007, 07:14 PM
what kind did you get?
dude had to spoon mine on
they kicked his butt
it cost me 25 bux each!

swheels
10-30-2007, 07:17 PM
raceman semi slicks.Well i've been spoonin since 5:30.Super grip but the headache hell i'll be happy on the stockers can't imagine going through this everytime i need to change a tire.thumb_down

swheels
11-01-2007, 09:26 AM
I went down to the local tire shop.No luck getting the tire to seat on the rim.Looks like i'll be racing from the spectator booth.angry_redbanghead.Then to top it all off i was supposed to pick up my friends bike from Ga. so he could race at vir. yesterday.I didn't get a call from him until today and now i can't pick his bike upt until friday late night.Then drive all the way back to vir.angry_red Ain't this a Bcensor_d

The Nutty Professor
11-01-2007, 09:51 AM
Swheels try this. If the sun is out.let it sit in the sun and heat up then try again. That guy should have been able to get the tire on the rim dunno

Blitz$M.Inc.$
11-01-2007, 05:55 PM
no sweat S, i got a whole wheel from my 18 you can race on, its the stock tire but its this year new
ive been packing and i test fitted my bike in my sisters crv
barely but ya

swheels
11-01-2007, 06:11 PM
no sweat S, i got a whole wheel from my 18 you can race on, its the stock tire but its this year new
ive been packing and i test fitted my bike in my sisters crv
barely but yaYou don't understand I bought and paid for this tire and now i'm more determine to ride on this damn tire.I want to ride as hard as i can and will not be limited because of a tire.When i set my mind on something thats it and only it.I now i'm trying the third rim.This should be the charm.You guys have no idea how determine i am now.angry_redThe gods must be angry with me or playing a cruel joke.They can laugh now but where ever i go may it be heaven or hell i'm gonna put my foot in somebodies ASS!angry_redangry_red

Blitz$M.Inc.$
11-01-2007, 06:20 PM
ok i dig that
just dont sit out a race cuz a tire kicked yer azz
i was pretty sad till mine got finished
hey you can do a tube cant ya?
will that effect performance alot?
i rode 3 laps today and my tires didnt heat up alot, weird

swheels
11-01-2007, 06:27 PM
ok i dig that
just dont sit out a race cuz a tire kicked yer azz
i was pretty sad till mine got finished
hey you can do a tube cant ya?
will that effect performance alot?
i rode 3 laps today and my tires didnt heat up alot, weirdYeah the 2 rims i tried were tubes.so now i'm trying the tubeless rim.Oh and i'm on my second tire a conti.Lets just say the first is longer among the living.rolleye0010

Wait till you get on that track it'll heat up just right.thumbsup2

kevin@holeshotz
11-01-2007, 07:57 PM
You don't understand I bought and paid for this tire and now i'm more determine to ride on this damn tire.I want to ride as hard as i can and will not be limited because of a tire.When i set my mind on something thats it and only it.I now i'm trying the third rim.This should be the charm.You guys have no idea how determine i am now.angry_redThe gods must be angry with me or playing a cruel joke.They can laugh now but where ever i go may it be heaven or hell i'm gonna put my foot in somebodies ASS!angry_redangry_red

Your getting worked up over a tire? Just ride.

swheels
11-02-2007, 07:11 AM
ok i dig that
just dont sit out a race cuz a tire kicked yer azz
i was pretty sad till mine got finished
hey you can do a tube cant ya?
will that effect performance alot?
i rode 3 laps today and my tires didnt heat up alot, weirdYeah i'll take you up on that spare stock tire.If you just have the spare tire.No matter how stubborn i can get in my heart i still can't resist a ride.Poke12

swheels
11-02-2007, 07:14 AM
Your getting worked up over a tire? Just ride.well the thing that got me work up was the fact it was supposed to fit.If it wasn't and i knew it and took a chance anyway i can deal with it.Plus i'm not through with that tire just yet.boxing11

schofell84
11-02-2007, 08:13 AM
if you get it on the other rim why dont you buy up some of those ceramic bearings holeshotz is offereing. 25 bucks isnt very bad at all. hell you might even be able to find them at a good hardware store

The Nutty Professor
11-02-2007, 08:36 AM
Yeah Schofell I agree with the bearings but what kind of ceramic and who makes them? Not all ceramic is equal. I had a cheaper set on my Campagnolo BB and they flaked censor_d bought the more expensive set and not one problem. The first set had very few miles if I hadn't been paying attention and heard the creaking I would have lost the BB to galling. I know the BB had replaceable bearings and these are probably captured but the speeds are higher and a locked up bearing is a locked up bearing. OOOWWWW speechless33

redryderaus
11-02-2007, 09:25 AM
if you get it on the other rim why dont you buy up some of those ceramic bearings holeshotz is offereing. 25 bucks isnt very bad at all. hell you might even be able to find them at a good hardware store

Ceramic bearings for $25 bucks? More misinformed marketing hype. Along with aluminium castings being sold as billet aluminium. And that isn't aimed solely at holeshotz. I see the same thing from many online sellers.

I've still got that bridge in San Francisco I need to sell.

Some pics of your tyre woes would be handy, swheels.

red

Edit: Sorry, my "BS Tolerator" is severely over-stressed right now.

swheels
11-02-2007, 11:39 AM
Ceramic bearings for $25 bucks? More misinformed marketing hype. Along with aluminium castings being sold as billet aluminium. And that isn't aimed solely at holeshotz. I see the same thing from many online sellers.

I've still got that bridge in San Francisco I need to sell.

Some pics of your tyre woes would be handy, swheels.

red

Edit: Sorry, my "BS Tolerator" is severely over-stressed right now.Low and behold i figured out the problem.Ok after looking at all three rims.I noticed that the x6 styled rims had a higher inner lip that the rim of the tire is suppose to sit on.At that was the problem so now matter what i or anyone else could have done that tire wouldn't have fit.So i accept that defeat.But i did get the tire mounted on the x18 rim.thumbsup2But i beat the tire so bad that it doesn't hold air for to long.On my way to the track i'll stop and get a can of fixa flat and hope that helps.But Dayam that conti i think is gonna be the hot ticket i took for a quick test ride and it stuck like glue.And the parking lot i was riding in was dirty.Well grip level on a track i guess a different story.heres what i'll be riding on.

The Nutty Professor
11-02-2007, 11:42 AM
Ceramic bearings for $25 bucks? More misinformed marketing hype. Along with aluminium castings being sold as billet aluminium. And that isn't aimed solely at holeshotz. I see the same thing from many online sellers.

I've still got that bridge in San Francisco I need to sell.

Some pics of your tyre woes would be handy, swheels.

red

Edit: Sorry, my "BS Tolerator" is severely over-stressed right now.

Putting up with BS is the burden of an intellegent mind. People make things 10 times harder than they should and simple solutions are totally out of the question for BS slingers.

schofell84
11-02-2007, 03:30 PM
i dont know whats so hard to believe ... theyre probably made in taiwan for dirt cheap!

rednek01
11-02-2007, 03:33 PM
wow thats a nice looking tire!

Blitz$M.Inc.$
11-03-2007, 06:37 PM
well after the first real test,the maxxis come out good
im more happy with the front, i think the back slid out and made me wreck, or its my own dumb azz
but its all good, once you get used to it
Swheels conti is similar to mine, he can lean farther than me tho, cuz his foot pegs are in his azz lol

The Nutty Professor
11-03-2007, 07:00 PM
well after the first real test,the maxxis come out good
im more happy with the front, i think the back slid out and made me wreck, or its my own dumb azz
but its all good, once you get used to it
Swheels conti is similar to mine, he can lean farther than me tho, cuz his foot pegs are in his azz lol

Blitz you left out a hell of a lot in that post. What's going on? What crash are you OK is the bike OK? Remember so of us are sitting on our hands waiting for progress reports cowboy

Blitz$M.Inc.$
11-03-2007, 07:19 PM
sorry dog im drunk as a **i**
my bike is ok, the prob was having to make the catch cans
i ran my carb tbes to the same bottle as my case vent
and somehow it started to suck oil up into the carb lines
BAD
so i slid out on the left side
i was leaking oil bad
dunno why
i changed it just before i left and i put as much as usual, but i was running this track in second gear, cept for the straight where i had to shift to third
so at times i was reving really high, i even quit shifting to stay better in the corners
when i wrecked i had alot of oil dripping from my catch can, so i may have slid out on my own from that idk
hey they let me back on
im celabrating with some bud ice, 4 down 2 to go
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeee

swheels
11-03-2007, 08:07 PM
sorry dog im drunk as a **i**
my bike is ok, the prob was having to make the catch cans
i ran my carb tbes to the same bottle as my case vent
and somehow it started to suck oil up into the carb lines
BAD
so i slid out on the left side
i was leaking oil bad
dunno why
i changed it just before i left and i put as much as usual, but i was running this track in second gear, cept for the straight where i had to shift to third
so at times i was reving really high, i even quit shifting to stay better in the corners
when i wrecked i had alot of oil dripping from my catch can, so i may have slid out on my own from that idk
hey they let me back on
im celabrating with some bud ice, 4 down 2 to go
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeJust make sure your up and on time tomorrow for the races.thumbsup2

The Nutty Professor
11-04-2007, 07:41 AM
Hope he's not seeing 2 apex's this morning. moon1

swheels
11-12-2007, 12:11 PM
I think these tires are great.The rear tire is a continental zippy 1 this tire(103/70-10) heats up reeeeeaaaaaalllllllll nice in the cold weather.The front is the dunlope tt91 gp(80/90-10) soft compound i've heard at the races(vir) the guys that run them swear by them.Too bad i didn't get the chance to use them that weekend,i could have definitly used them.As you can see there are taller than the stock fronts but it has a pretty decent side wall stiffness. So i wont have to worry about the mushy feeling going into the turns coming from the front tire.And the back tire is real solid going around the turn the tire didn't get distorted at all like the stockers will under any highspeed cornering.thumbsup2thumbsup2 I seem to be having some trouble uploading the rest of the pics???????

swheels
11-12-2007, 12:20 PM
Heres the other pics.thumbsup2

schofell84
11-12-2007, 12:33 PM
lookin good, did you ever get that dual brake set up?

swheels
11-12-2007, 12:45 PM
lookin good, did you ever get that dual brake set up?Oh yeah it worked out great.So much that i crashed in one race LOL on the brakes to hard going into the turns.Locked up the front wheel.But Np told me that something might have happened to the caliper pistons.Becuase when i would squeazed the brakes and let go the pistons would go back to neutral position.So i was riding around the track like i was holding the brakes.Possilbly the pistons got alittle curoision from sitting the cold garage.Gonna order up some 4 piston brembros calipers.It did feel good to have so much brakes that when your racing you forearms didn't cramp up from grabbing the brake lever so hard.LOLbluelaugh

schofell84
11-12-2007, 02:16 PM
thats awesome, how about a thread on how to do it for all of us punks?

swheels
11-12-2007, 02:55 PM
thats awesome, how about a thread on how to do it for all of us punks?Sure no problem.thumbsup2

swheels
12-25-2007, 03:09 PM
I finally got to truely ride on the dunlop front tire.Man it was great!! I tested at my super slippery lot facilities.LOLThe frontend stayed planted as well as the rear.The bike now seems to be boring to ride nothing slipping or sliding.Well i did get the rear to slide very little(Had to back off throttle then grab a handful at full lean angle).No frontend tucks even when i'd just through the bike into the turns.I'd always have to save it cause thr front tire i was using was a brick. Now to work on the horsepower.thumbsup2 Now i get to get some vids of how far i can lean the bike over.I'm all the way on the edge of the front tire.The bike feels like i can lean it more.But i was scraping the sides of my shoes. Next would have been the whole side of my legs.I know it's no big deal scraping the sides of your shoes.But my footpegs are up VERY High Blitz can vouch for that.speechless33bluelaugh

In short the dunlops makes for a great front tire!

eriko
12-26-2007, 12:46 PM
Hey S,
Sorry I just ask you how your front tire is in another thread, It is good to know that it is a good tire because I just ordered it last week and should have them real soon. By the way what do you think of the Kenda tires, I am planning on getting one for the back!
Thanks,
eriko